Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines: 2 - I want to believe, but...

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I think it looks cool. Its probably a shallow experience, but if it lets me be a "good" vampire. Then ok.

The Pre order that is literally just trophies for your hideout is not filling me with confidence though. The clan stuff is also crap but that's nothing new, they amazingly do that for their choose your own adventure books too. I have no expectations, just give me a power fantasy where I can beat the shit out of everyone evil and call it a day.
 
Holy shit what a fucking joke, to go from bloodlines 1 to... forspoken with vampires. yippee, can't wait to play as a carpet munching, ugly newspeak dyke in my shitty walking sim. God i fucking hate modern media, ruining every goddamn IP they can get their hands on to get money from people with nostalgia because they are too retarded, inept and creatively bankrupt to spend any time or effort making something new, so they have to go and ruin shit people already love.
 
Michael Wade said:
I think it looks cool. Its probably a shallow experience, but if it lets me be a "good" vampire. Then ok.

The Pre order that is literally just trophies for your hideout is not filling me with confidence though. The clan stuff is also crap but that's nothing new, they amazingly do that for their choose your own adventure books too. I have no expectations, just give me a power fantasy where I can beat the shit out of everyone evil and call it a day.
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You can tell the quality of these games based on how evil you can be. Editions with intentionally playable sabbat are always superior in the tabletop
 
Cryptosporidium 138 said:
Holy shit what a fucking joke, to go from bloodlines 1 to... forspoken with vampires. yippee, can't wait to play as a carpet munching, ugly newspeak dyke in my shitty walking sim. God i fucking hate modern media, ruining every goddamn IP they can get their hands on to get money from people with nostalgia because they are too retarded, inept and creatively bankrupt to spend any time or effort making something new, so they have to go and ruin shit people already love.
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Lol I would lose my shit if the writing is this bad



It would be funny if the clan dlc barely changed anything in the story.
 
Michael Wade said:
Lol I would lose my shit if the writing is this bad
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IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING WEREWOLF!? GOOD THING I WASN'T BORN IN ICE! THAT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE FIRST NAME!

I can see it already. i can see the guy in the dykes head going, "Erm, i don't like this anymore than you." it's going to happen, it's going to be awful Californian newspeak shit, mark my words.
 
Cryptosporidium 138 said:
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING WEREWOLF!? GOOD THING I WASN'T BORN IN ICE! THAT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE FIRST NAME!

I can see it already. i can see the guy in the dykes head going, "Erm, i don't like this anymore than you." it's going to happen, it's going to be awful Californian newspeak shit, mark my words.
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I cannot imagine them screwing up the elder vampire that bad, but I would love to be proven wrong. Now as for the voice in your head.... That has a good possibility of breaking the game. Especially if you can't get rid of it in a quest.

Lol I bet if you can it makes you go full evil.
 
Michael Wade said:
I cannot imagine them screwing up the elder vampire that bad
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I admit i haven't paid almost any attention to this game when i heard they fired the lead writer from the first game. I assumed after that this game would be complete shit. Are you telling me that the dyke is an elder? The fucking newspeak, frail, karen looking dyke, is an elder? Are you fucking shitting me? Am i being ribbed right now? Why in god's name do you PLAY as an elder!? Why the fuck is an ELDERS name phyre? An elder, who has lived for HUNDREDS of years, name, IS FUCKING PHYRE!?!? Jesus mary mother of god, this shit is worse than i thought.
 
Cryptosporidium 138 said:
I admit i haven't paid almost any attention to this game when i heard they fired the lead writer from the first game. I assumed after that this game would be complete shit. Are you telling me that the dyke is an elder? The fucking newspeak, frail, karen looking dyke, is an elder? Are you fucking shitting me? Am i being ribbed right now? Why in god's name do you PLAY as an elder!? Why the fuck is an ELDERS name phyre? An elder, who has lived for HUNDREDS of years, name, IS FUCKING PHYRE!?!? Jesus mary mother of god, this shit is worse than i thought.
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They pulled it off in swansong but ehhh. That was terrible for different reasons. ( So bleak I stopped caring in conjunction with terrible gameplay mechanics) It's a bad idea overall because you can't really "connect" with the character, but I can kinda see why they did it. For better or worse it's very difficult for a new vampire to actually get power short of Cain himself doing it for giggles. I guess they didn't want to seem derivative, but I rather liked the thinblood idea.
 
Cryptosporidium 138 said:
I admit i haven't paid almost any attention to this game when i heard they fired the lead writer from the first game. I assumed after that this game would be complete shit. Are you telling me that the dyke is an elder? The fucking newspeak, frail, karen looking dyke, is an elder? Are you fucking shitting me? Am i being ribbed right now? Why in god's name do you PLAY as an elder!? Why the fuck is an ELDERS name phyre? An elder, who has lived for HUNDREDS of years, name, IS FUCKING PHYRE!?!? Jesus mary mother of god, this shit is worse than i thought.
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I never played the tabletop, and God almighty I've never LARPed, but isn't there a soft lock on playing lower generation vamps because their in lore powers are just too broken? Like an Elder sould be able to Dominate an entire stadium of people at once? Can't use that kind of power without it being such a violation of the Masquerade that you'd get even the Sabbat on your ass for rocking the boat too much.
 
Bâtard Consanguine said:
I never played the tabletop, and God almighty I've never LARPed, but isn't there a soft lock on playing lower generation vamps because their in lore powers are just too broken? Like an Elder sould be able to Dominate an entire stadium of people at once? Can't use that kind of power without it being such a violation of the Masquerade that you'd get even the Sabbat on your ass for rocking the boat too much.
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I've never played tabletop either, and i'm not going to act like i'm a big lore guy or anything lke that. but from what i remember elders are absurdly powerful, i wonder how the fuck the new game is going to have any difficulty at all and have it make sense?

if you are an elder, even a prissy, californian one named PHYRE. you should just be able to wipe the floor with anything that isn't also an elder, or maybe a werewolf... you should NEVER lose to fucking thinbloods and cops with guns.

it's like starting dnd as a level 20 and wanting an entire campaign that works. where the fuck do you go from there? you are already the top of the food chain, there is no journey, no reason to be afraid, no climbing up the ranks... you are already one of the most fucking powerful creatures in the universe. i bet you money either the game is HORRIBLY political and you just sit and yap with ventrues all day. or it's going to pull some bullshit, "phyre sleepy, phyre need to get powers back, phyre die to thug with stick" bullshit.
 

About an hour and 50 minutes of gameplay if you're feeling up to it and don't mind youtubers. I stopped watching like 30 minutes in.

I'll say again the look of the environments is great. Modelling, details, shaders and lighting-wise the environment artists have nothing to apologize for. They're the only ones because the actual design of the place is still not "gothic modern city" just normal city street somebody probably took pictures of near the office.

Otherwise, not really impressed by anything I'm seeing. I'm not liking the voice acting for Main Character McStupidName. Movement looks good but overall gameplay's looking average basically copying a bunch of other stuff system-wise. I guess punching people really fast could be fun? I'm thinking punching people really really hard off of walls is going to be the only saving grace for this game.

Dialogue's also extremely perfunctory. Writers are putting the bare minimum of character into the dialogue. But our main character's actually the worse just saying things like: "It's been a while since I've been treated nicely I've mostly been hunted my whole life". It's so bland it's almost exposition. Main Character McStupidName's voice acting isn't helping her case either. If they're going for ancient vampire that has been detached from emotions for hundreds of years they aren't hitting it. Feels like she's as done with her dialogue as I am. Overall I'm thinking this game is going to be more boring than bad.
 
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Bâtard Consanguine said:
I never played the tabletop, and God almighty I've never LARPed, but isn't there a soft lock on playing lower generation vamps because their in lore powers are just too broken? Like an Elder sould be able to Dominate an entire stadium of people at once? Can't use that kind of power without it being such a violation of the Masquerade that you'd get even the Sabbat on your ass for rocking the boat too much.
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You have thirteen generations before you hit thin bloods, and Tremere (a wizard who became a super vampires by eating 3rd generation vamp) is considered to be 5th or 6th generation (i forget which.) Player characters are, if memory serves, generally 9th or 10th generation.
 
Frightened Rabbit said:
It is very rude for The Chinese Room to bring a corpse to gamescom 2025 and start sodomizing it right on camera!
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I am not even shocked.
This would be pitiful if it wasn't exactly what I expected from these losers.
I honestly am just surprised they haven't canceled it.

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Looking at the trailer it appears you have some amnesia bullshit. If that's the case how embarrassing.
 
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Cryptosporidium 138 said:
Has no fucking powers because she is sleepy?!
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The real tragedy here is that there was basically zero need to make the protagonist an elder, or a thin blood as per the previous, equally dogshit version of the game.

There's a very good reason why the tabletop has you playing a 13the gen most of the time. You're just powerful enough to be useful to the ruling elites, but not powerful enough to do as you want.

You can be a bit clever, like the writers of Bloodlines 1 were, and imply there is something more going on with the protagonist (or that he was simply an 8th gen, or lower) to justify why you can accomplish more than NPCs, but even then the PC has to contend with the fact they are a newly fanged leech, surrounded by centuries-old apex predators.

Making the protagonist an elder not only is incredibly difficult to accomplish writing-wise, you then also have to figure out a way to keep the power scale in check, and also explain why this being that several centuries old is suddenly incapable of recalling even the most basic concepts of vampiredom. Naturally, the writers being hacks went with the most basic bitch take, giving your character amnesia.

They didn't even have the balls of letting you play as a person out of time. Imagine how jarring it would be to wake up after 100+ years, in the modern times, and witness all the cultural and technological changes that have taken place in the meantime.

Also, lol at them having the gall to ask $70 for this trainwreck, and then an additional $20 on top of that to get the remaining clans. I hope this game kills the Chinese Room (again).
 
TrainWreckWatcher said:
This would be pitiful if it wasn't exactly what I expected from these losers.
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I did expect them to produce a complete dumpster fire that would commodify and flanderise the universe but, I actually didn't expect them to sink so low as to make the Nosferatu, the literal aberrations whose first and most notable feature is their monsterish looks, look like a random cripple.
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If I was met with this guy on the street, I wouldn't scream in terror and ask for God, I would avert my gaze and think he just got caught on a nasty fire while living in a dilapitated shack somewhere. 1755692524839.webp
Same shit with this guy, if he just covered the bat ears, he would look like a fat crackhead, not like an abomination, this doesn't make me scared it just makes me switch to the other street.
You would expect them to keep the same mechanical depth the Nosferatu had since, it would mean playing and engaging with the game in a completely different manner just by having a single noticeable change but, I should also expect the same studio who called the Bloodlines 1 Malkavians "A disgusting portrayal of Schizophrenic people." to flanderize and babify any sense of uniqueness on the Nosferatu.
 
Watched theRadBrad's preview:
SalmonForSale2 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3hP7dCvHpKo
About an hour and 50 minutes of gameplay if you're feeling up to it and don't mind youtubers. I stopped watching like 30 minutes in.

I'll say again the look of the environments is great. Modelling, details, shaders and lighting-wise the environment artists have nothing to apologize for. They're the only ones because the actual design of the place is still not "gothic modern city" just normal city street somebody probably took pictures of near the office.

Otherwise, not really impressed by anything I'm seeing. I'm not liking the voice acting for Main Character McStupidName. Movement looks good but overall gameplay's looking average basically copying a bunch of other stuff system-wise. I guess punching people really fast could be fun? I'm thinking punching people really really hard off of walls is going to be the only saving grace for this game.

Dialogue's also extremely perfunctory. Writers are putting the bare minimum of character into the dialogue. But our main character's actually the worse just saying things like: "It's been a while since I've been treated nicely I've mostly been hunted my whole life". It's so bland it's almost exposition. Main Character McStupidName's voice acting isn't helping her case either. If they're going for ancient vampire that has been detached from emotions for hundreds of years they aren't hitting it. Feels like she's as done with her dialogue as I am. Overall I'm thinking this game is going to be more boring than bad.
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All of the budget went into the environment. The game was seen so far is Dishonored 2.5.

Dialogue: 1.5 hours of "OMG! You're the Nomad! You're so cool and dangerous!" Phyre: "Yeah, I know I am."


Characters: Quirky Johnny Malkavianhand.
The white vampire Girlboss.
The asian vampire Girlboss.
Le heckin' quirky nerd vampire.
The Queer Eye Nosferatu.


Also, paywalling the Toreador? Go straight to hell and keep digging.
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Frightened Rabbit said:
If I was met with this guy on the street, I wouldn't scream in terror and ask for God, I would avert my gaze and think he just got caught on a nasty fire while living in a dilapitated shack somewhere.
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This is what most nosferatu look like canonically lol, the game looks like dogshit but their version of nos is far more interesting than all of the lookalike ones in 1 imo.
 
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