UN UK Snap election 8th June 2017 - Oh boy another U turn.

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Ravenor said:
It's going to go down in British Political History as one of the worst fucking gaff's and largest foot bullets ever that's for sure.

Corbin as I have said elsewhere a dangerous and useful idiot and while he's gained some it looks to be mostly 1-time kippers and disaffected lib dems he's not delivered on two general elections and it's not been of any real substance, I'm hoping he resigns but I'll not be shocked if he doesn't he's leading a Political party and it's his wet dream.
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Corbyn's cult of personality and fanatical fanbase has made it virtually impossible to unseat him by my understanding, I doubt he's going to resign after a better showing than expected this time around. He turned a 10 point lead into a virtual tossup (well he didn't, May did, but he'll undoubtedly take credit).

It's almost too bad that Labour didn't win because from what I can tell the clique surrounding him has been career opposition and them inevitably floundering when trying to actually govern might get reasonable people in charge of the Labour party again for the next election.
 
CWCissey said:
FTFY

EDIT: Robert Peston weighs in.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/873055051454889984
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It's a good point, any other time a 7% increase would have tories cartwheeling in the ailes, but the huge huge unexpected turnout for Labour saw gain enormously.

I think we shouldve probably predicted that there would've been a higher turnout off of the back of lots of people voting for the first time in the EU referendum and finding that no, it's not actually as much of a bother as they thought. That first vote always pushes people into picking up the habit a lot easier each time.
 
Sable said:
@Curt Sibling should do some art of May hanging from a noose, because it accurately depicts what's going on here.
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Have to admit, I didn't expect a hung Parliament.
Now May will have to do some serious blowing, I mean talks to gain an alliance with some other party.

Fareal said:
TIL all britkiwis except me are Tories
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Nope. Never been into Tories or Labour.
 
Ponderous Pillock said:
It's a good point, any other time a 7% increase would have tories cartwheeling in the ailes, but the huge huge unexpected turnout for Labour saw gain enormously.

I think we shouldve probably predicted that there would've been a higher turnout off of the back of lots of people voting for the first time in the EU referendum and finding that no, it's not actually as much of a bother as they thought. That first vote always pushes people into picking up the habit a lot easier each time.
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Looks like voter turnout is up 2.6% over 2015. That's good for everyone if it's sustained.
 
Conservative MP Nigel Evans says the election result has been an "absolute disaster" for the Conservatives, claiming the campaign was "hijacked by [his] own party".

Evans, who retained his seat in the Ribble Valley, said the Conservative party "did a full-frontal assault on our core voters - the elderly."

He told BBC Radio 5 live's Nicky Campbell:“We didn’t shoot ourselves in the foot, we shot ourselves in the head."
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DAYUM!

Ponderous Pillock said:
I wouldn't say so. Throwing the system into abject chaos again seems to be quite the oddity to tell Parliament to "get its act together."
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Unless it's akin to locking them in a room together until they start to work together.
 
Fareal said:
TIL all britkiwis except me are Tories
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Not at all. I enjoy retaining my laughing stock status by normally voting lib dem. I will admit to backing Corbyn this time, purely because I wanted to see May get seriously shaken - her 'bloody difficult woman' school of leadership is possibly the most retarded approach to politics I've ever had the misfortune to sit through. That, and the absolute abortion that was the fallout from her tenure as HS, along with the NK-style Internet proposals she was intending to strong-arm through - she was never a sane option as far as I'm concerned.
Corbyn isn't either, and I knew the metropolitan votes were never going to be enough to guarantee his ascendancy, so my vote went his way purely as a tactical move.
Had he performed a reshuffle earlier on (preferably involving Abbott ending up in a weighted sack in the Thames), he might have been slightly more credible - some of his policies aren't too bad, and frothing fanbase aside, he's not the most onerous character in Parliament. However, it was far too little, and far too late.
 
This is probably way off topic but @Ravenor said that the US and UK campaigning styles are different. Can someone tell me how so, and how May's campaign was emulating US campaigning tactics?
 
Asuka said:
This is probably way off topic but @Ravenor said that the US and UK campaigning styles are different. Can someone tell me how so, and how May's campaign was emulating US campaigning tactics?
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In Britain we vote for MP's rather than leaders, the party with the most MP's in The Commons will rule the country, with the leader (who is elected by the party) being Prime Minister.

Theresa was running a very Presidential campaign, telling people to vote for her rather than the party.
 
Asuka said:
This is probably way off topic but @Ravenor said that the US and UK campaigning styles are different. Can someone tell me how so, and how May's campaign was emulating US campaigning tactics?
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Typically, our campaigns are more party/policy-focused than individually-led. We don't ordinarily vote for the figurehead so much as the party that they lead.

:edit: what @CWCissey said
 
Thanks! That helps a lot.

With that said didn't the Labour Party say that they would still hold to Brexit anyways? How will a Hung Parliament affect the process?
 
Asuka said:
Thanks! That helps a lot.

With that said didn't the Labour Party say that they would still hold to Brexit anyways? How will a Hung Parliament affect the process?
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They would, but they want a softer Brexit, and quite frankly, Corbyn is a bit of a wet rag (friend to terrorists)

A Hung Parliament will weaken Britain's hand, as it's saying the government is weak and unsupported by the majority. Europe may love their coalitions, but they know that it takes a fucking World War before Britain will accept one themselves.
 
They will, although the negotiation style was set to be a lot more conciliatory than May's 'fuck you, we're leaving!' approach. The hung parliament means that we're basically waiting on a coalition to be formed that'll bring the number of seats to a majority. That'll be the defining factor on how we move next with regards to brexit and life in general. It also means that there'll be some potentially strange (and strained) alliances formed, which will make for some interesting policy implementation.
 
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