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gangweedfan said:
Yeah im not all that familiar with the site but it seems stupid that they spend so much time finding examples of a trope but none at all to examining the origins or themes behind it.
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You find this issue in every dedicated website for such things.
 
gangweedfan said:
Yeah im not all that familiar with the site but it seems stupid that they spend so much time finding examples of a trope but none at all to examining the origins or themes behind it.
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The best example is comparing the pages on classic literature and myth compared to the pages on modern pop-culture series. I looked up "Lotus Eater Machine" a trope about being trapped in an illusion, the trope page about it only has one sentence talking about its origins in the Odyssey. Then when you compare some of the works "Lotus-Eater Machine" appears in, The Odyssey, the foundation of Western literature, its page is only 8400 words long. By contrast the page for She-Ran and the Princesses of Power, a flash in the pan modern day cartoon whose sole selling point is that it has lesbians in it, sits at 21170 words. To Tropers a cartoon that bases its existence of an 80s toy commercial whose audience are Tumblr manchildren has more substance to it that a 4000 year old story that has been examined for centuries by the greatest scholars in Rome, Florence, and Oxford.
 
Strange Wilderness said:
The best example is comparing the pages on classic literature and myth compared to the pages on modern pop-culture series. I looked up "Lotus Eater Machine" a trope about being trapped in an illusion, the trope page about it only has one sentence talking about its origins in the Odyssey. Then when you compare some of the works "Lotus-Eater Machine" appears in, The Odyssey, the foundation of Western literature, its page is only 8400 words long. By contrast the page for She-Ran and the Princesses of Power, a flash in the pan modern day cartoon whose sole selling point is that it has lesbians in it, sits at 21170 words. To Tropers a cartoon that bases its existence of an 80s toy commercial whose audience are Tumblr manchildren has more substance to it that a 4000 year old story that has been examined for centuries by the greatest scholars in Rome, Florence, and Oxford.
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I think this gets into TV trope's biggest problem; it wants to be a forum, not a wiki.

Wikis are generally meant to store information. Once a wiki page has all the relevant information, there is no reason to update it anymore (unless it is a "living" page and something happens to it, in which case you only need to update until it is up to date). On the other hand Tropers see updating TV tropes as something to do in their spare time like shitposting on Kiwi Farms. So they post works they like excessively, make unnecessary tropes, and generally bloat the website since the "wiki" portion gets filled out with all the necessary information pretty fast and they need to do *something* because it is meant to be a time sink.
 
Strange Wilderness said:
The best example is comparing the pages on classic literature and myth compared to the pages on modern pop-culture series. I looked up "Lotus Eater Machine" a trope about being trapped in an illusion, the trope page about it only has one sentence talking about its origins in the Odyssey. Then when you compare some of the works "Lotus-Eater Machine" appears in, The Odyssey, the foundation of Western literature, its page is only 8400 words long. By contrast the page for She-Ran and the Princesses of Power, a flash in the pan modern day cartoon whose sole selling point is that it has lesbians in it, sits at 21170 words. To Tropers a cartoon that bases its existence of an 80s toy commercial whose audience are Tumblr manchildren has more substance to it that a 4000 year old story that has been examined for centuries by the greatest scholars in Rome, Florence, and Oxford.
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Another example of this is the page for "villain on life support". of course they mentioned warhammer 40k since it is a nerd thin but somehow they never mention the runestaff fantasy novels that as far as I know were the first to use the trope in fantasy and were directly copied by warhammer. I guess tv tropers dont read.
 
gangweedfan said:
Another example of this is the page for "villain on life support". of course they mentioned warhammer 40k since it is a nerd thin but somehow they never mention the runestaff fantasy novels that as far as I know were the first to use the trope in fantasy and were directly copied by warhammer. I guess tv tropers dont read.
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The absence of Moorcock's works is a massive red flag, considering that Mike was considered to be a key figure in the foundation for modern fantasy works, most notably the Elric Saga. Nonetheless, the Golden Throne is probably one of the most notable depictions of the "Overlord's Life Support" trope in the public eye.
 
WinchesterPremium said:
I think this gets into TV trope's biggest problem; it wants to be a forum, not a wiki.

Wikis are generally meant to store information. Once a wiki page has all the relevant information, there is no reason to update it anymore (unless it is a "living" page and something happens to it, in which case you only need to update until it is up to date). On the other hand Tropers see updating TV tropes as something to do in their spare time like shitposting on Kiwi Farms. So they post works they like excessively, make unnecessary tropes, and generally bloat the website since the "wiki" portion gets filled out with all the necessary information pretty fast and they need to do *something* because it is meant to be a time sink.
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What TV Tropes needs is some kind of council of senior editors to actually look at pages and decide which Tropes actually apply to the work. A lot of the Overdosed Tropes are things that happen in one episode of a show or are one line of dialogue that is irrelevant to the work as a whole. A character that makes one sarcastic comment about the situation is not a "Deadpan Snarker" nor is a character in a 20s period drama wearing a "Badass Longcoat". A character could read like a mishmash of various random traits and fail to give an accurate picture of the character overall because Tropers need to cram their autism into the character description. Having people with actual knowledge could mold the autism into something worthwhile but that happens only very rarely and all the mods are as autistic as the users and drinking the SJW Kool-aid so it would be a moot point.
 
John Merston said:
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Today, in Shitty English adventures...
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Technially, filming a porno isn't illegal in Texas. But the raping and revenge porn will obviously net a prison sentence. And the only thing that the editor is focusing on is that YouTube is the only medium for posting videos; must be an autistic kid, going by the grammar and lack of life experience.
 
NerdShamer said:
Technially, filming a porno isn't illegal in Texas. But the raping and revenge porn will obviously net a prison sentence. And the only thing that the editor is focusing on is that YouTube is the only medium for posting videos; must be an autistic kid, going by the grammar and lack of life experience.
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Or (more likely) a straight up tard.
 
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Tropers are transphobic and misogynistic shits who love their gender roles and think that tomboyish girls should never exist, news at 11.
 
While looking for the best image of Trope-Tan to use, I discovered this at the end of her fanart folder:

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Amazing that you decided to keep this demonstration of a shameful article, with the laziest foot fetish pose possible. Nothing is a better demonstration of "I am a man of taste" like maximizing the ratio of foot fetish to aesthetic value, with femurs that appear to be bent at a 90 degree angle, and inexcusably small toes on the main attraction.
 
They should make a sidebar with basic information on a trope required on every page. Like the first works to use the trope, famous works they have showed up in and what genre it is used in mostly. That way people who want to research this stuff dont have to read tv tropers epic blogposts. but that is exactly the reason why they will never add it.
 
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