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The Scrappy entries are almost always hilarious, it's usually somebody adding a character they personally hate and acting like everybody else does too
 
Uncanny Valley said:
The Scrappy entries are almost always hilarious, it's usually somebody adding a character they personally hate and acting like everybody else does too
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A lot of Creator's Pet entries are similar. "This character I hate is treated well in the narrative, so clearly the writers are picking favorites instead of responding to a fanbase who likes them or even just, y'know, doing what they want with the story regardless of how they feel about a character."
 
The thing about the TV Tropes people are that, despite all the fanboying and autism, they really do know how tropes work.

Take, for example, what is perhaps the best entry on the site, the article called "Unbuilt Trope".

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnbuiltTrope

There is some actual analysis in here, examining how works that are considered to be fore-bearers of genres and cliches tend to be much more sophisticated, deeper, ironic, or at the very least different from the works that follow them. (The Bible is filled with these. God changing his mind about the destruction of Nineveh, the description of how angels look is nightmarish to say the least, the Book of Revelation has a happy ending, and Jesus wasn't afraid of using violence and telling hypocrites to go to hell)

But they waste all of that on bullshit about anime and memes.
 
Magnum Dong said:
A lot of Creator's Pet entries are similar. "This character I hate is treated well in the narrative, so clearly the writers are picking favorites instead of responding to a fanbase who likes them or even just, y'know, doing what they want with the story regardless of how they feel about a character."
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I think the issue was bad enough they actually made a thread about said issue.
 
StarvingAutist said:
The thing about the TV Tropes people are that, despite all the fanboying and autism, they really do know how tropes work.

Take, for example, what is perhaps the best entry on the site, the article called "Unbuilt Trope".

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnbuiltTrope

There is some actual analysis in here, examining how works that are considered to be fore-bearers of genres and cliches tend to be much more sophisticated, deeper, ironic, or at the very least different from the works that follow them. (The Bible is filled with these. God changing his mind about the destruction of Nineveh, the description of how angels look is nightmarish to say the least, the Book of Revelation has a happy ending, and Jesus wasn't afraid of using violence and telling hypocrites to go to hell)

But they waste all of that on bullshit about anime and memes.
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No, they got their analysis all wrong (as always).

What actually happens is: the originator of what is later considered a literary device (or cliche) had no idea that he was creating a formula; he just wrote the story as he saw fit. It is only when people subsequently look at different stories and find similar themes and motifs, that they invent something called "tropes" to describe these. So there is no "freely explor[ing] the ramifications of the trope before it solidified" because there was no "trope" to "solidify".

What's more, subsequent authors don't (unless they are tropers) look at an early example of a trope, decided that "mmm, it's good but needs more edge", and plan their narrative accordingly. They too write their stories as they see fit; appearance of "tropes" is only the result of subsequent analysis.
 
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Magnum Dong said:
A lot of Creator's Pet entries are similar. "This character I hate is treated well in the narrative, so clearly the writers are picking favorites instead of responding to a fanbase who likes them or even just, y'know, doing what they want with the story regardless of how they feel about a character."
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I remember once somebody a few years back made entries about how they personally hated every single main character on Futurama and American Dad. It was...something.
 
Uncanny Valley said:
I remember once somebody a few years back made entries about how they personally hated every single main character on Futurama and American Dad. It was...something.
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At that point, I'm surprised they just didn't say "BARGH, THIS SHOW SUCKS!" and called it a day.
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
At that point, I'm surprised they just didn't say "BARGH, THIS SHOW SUCKS!" and called it a day.
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Nowadays, nobody wants to take the easy way out and say A) "I don't care for this at all!" or B) "Why should I care about any of this?". Sad as fuck as that is, too.
 
Shokew said:
Nowadays, nobody wants to take the easy way out and say A) "I don't care for this at all!" or B) "Why should I care about any of this?". Sad as fuck as that is, too.
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I know right, it's usually for the stupidest of reasons more than anything.
 
Shokew said:
Nowadays, nobody wants to take the easy way out and say A) "I don't care for this at all!" or B) "Why should I care about any of this?". Sad as fuck as that is, too.
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Saying that would mean these people wouldn't take things like their hatred of Family Guy very seriously. Saying they wouldn't care would mean they wouldn't give any shits of some cartoon aside from a reaction that is very "meh".
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
When GameFAQ's are involved, it will never be good.

Combining it with TVTropes is only making it worse.
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Ahh, GameFAQs. A gaming forum that's less autistic than NeoGAF by several miles. I've joined that site only to encounter salty petty users and moderators and getting caught in some spergy crossfire somewhere.

Also, I found this in Revolution 60's YMMV page:

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Probably the best entry I've seen on that site yet.
 
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