Trump Considers Privatizing War.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...e-house-weighs-bold-plan-privatize/548004001/

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tbh, I wouldn't want to blow shit up for the US govt but I totally would for Exxon Mobile.
 
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The Coca-Cola Corps and Pepsi Battalion will make The Cola Wars a literal thing!
 
Doesn't this subject crop up every presidency or so? And doesn't it usually get shot down but the military or people with enough money employ mercenaries anyways?
 
I wonder if you can support a Merc group with patron bucks?

Or kickstarter
 
Actually not a bad idea if put into practice.
It could prevent regular armies from being exhausted
 
If war becomes a largely privatized business then PMCs will have a big interest in making sure there's always a war to go fight, and they'll lobby to get it. I get that a lot of industries stray into moral grey area to keep themselves afloat but most of them don't directly say "we need to kill X number of foreigners next month or else we might lose bonuses and have to consider layoffs". The principle of it is pretty terrible.
 
GethN7 said:
The Hessians (as they were collectively known since many of their commanders came from the Hesse area) were somewhere between soldiers of dual allegiance and mercenaries, as George III was of Hanoverian descent and thus ethnically German and thus many of the Hessians were working for German leaders who were in some way related or allied to George by marriage or political allegiance.
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They just weren't that militarily important. They were all professional soldiers, but they really didn't give a shit. This is kind of the problem with mercenaries. They wanted to get their paycheck and get back home.

Whatever benefit employing these few tens of thousands of mercenaries had for the English, the use of foreign mercenaries was an insulting provocation to the already angry Americans, and just the fact of using them probably helped recruiting new freedom fighters immensely.

The fact that a lot of Americans even still remember the term "Hessians" to this day, even though they played no decisive role in any battle at all (other than losing), shows how unpopular using mercenaries is. It doesn't just fail to unite a country behind you, it actually encourages the enemy.

If you're weak enough to have to pay foreigners to defend your country, what you're saying is you're weak. And that is a message that is loud and clear. You are a dummy with way too much money and way too tiny balls.
 
The only way I can see this turning out is the Middle East turning into Ancapistan with various corporations carving out territory for and fighting amongst themselves over who owns which slice of land. Bascially, the current situation there but with companies instead of ethnic groups.
 
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"Demand for PMCs is about to skyrocket. Like the good ol' days after 9/11."
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"What about all the good things war has done for us? Why don't we ever hear speeches about that? Jobs, technology, a common purpose..."
 
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AnOminous said:
If you're weak enough to have to pay foreigners to defend your country, what you're saying is you're weak. And that is a message that is loud and clear. You are a dummy with way too much money and way too tiny balls.
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600 billion a year to lose Iraq to a bunch of illiterate barbarians with tanks they welded together out of scrap metal, and then needing Putin to waltz in and whack their boss and win the war despite you doing everything you could to get in their way.

Might as well bring on the mercenaries because "dummy with too much money and tiny balls" isn't a new development.
 
So, how long before this is turned to use to silence and keep silent us common folk and the nation it was created to defend, all because the money was right / the price was better at the time?

This may sound like some awesome fiction, but nothing else beyond that.

Too bad we Americans have lost more wars than we've won as of late, which cost huge money, besides lives and resources to sustain those lives ever so, so yeah - it sucks that we may have no choice. If not now, sooner or later.
 
Maybe the mafia could help us out -- surely they owe us a favor or two.

But seriously, considering how long we've been starting wars on behalf of private companies*, is it really that outrageous to think of? I mean, why do you think Central America is such a shithole?
 
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Eh, it's not like the war in the Middle East will end anytime soon so might as well make some money off of it while you're at it
 
Absolutego said:
> Rapidly expand size and reach of nation's sphere of influence within a few lifetimes
> It becomes a pattern for leaders to get involved in foreign wars to distract from domestic policy and ramp up patriotism
> State debt balloons due to constant military engagements,
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Actually irrelevant. The Bush Tax Cuts and Obama continuing them did more on that front, as did the expansion of socialized healthcare under both of them. Sadly, this makes it an even better comparison, as the continuing build up of the cities, and gentry snapping up all the land of dead soldiers, served to deprive Rome of a Middle Class of citizens invested in Rome and Wealthy enough to purchase their own weapons, leading to the creation of a mass urban poor that relied on the dole, and lead directly to the Marian Reforms which dropped the Wealth requirments to serve in the Legion and offered pay to the Legionnaires, where previously, it was simply considered a duty, performed for little to no pay.
But yes, keep the Taxes like they were, if not jack them up a little more, and drop the wars, and the National Debt would most likely be lower than it was back then. And so would inflation.
but political corruption and moneyed interests amongst the business class makes it difficult to put an end to wars
> Army is eventually partially privatized with Mercenaries with little loyalty to the state
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Read up your history. Germans were more loyal than actual Romans of the time.
> Mercenaries experience repeated disruptions in pay schedule due to partisan bickering in the Capitol and weak leadership by executives
> All those hired soldiers turn heel and begin to advise the enemy

Am I describing the Western Roman Empire ca. 400 AD, or the United States ca 2070?
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Meh. Wait for a Sulla. We have already had our Marian Reforms.
 
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