Trans Muslimahs - Oppression fetishism rears its ugly headscarf

[Iron Jaguar]

While sinful thoughts are still sinful (as sin, properly understood, is a spiritual disease), there's definitely a difference in terms of severity of action and of thought.

Thoughts lead to actions.
Genesis 6:5

The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.

 

[Art Corvalay]

Thoughts lead to actions.
Genesis 6:5

The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.

While that is true, that all actions are preceded by a thought, there's difference in severity (often a very big one) between acted on thoughts and ones that arent. Again, sin needs to be looked at as a spiritual sickness that moves one away from God. We've all had violent thoughts, and that's bad regardless, but there's a big difference between thinking "I want to beat the crap out of that guy" and actually beating the crap out of the guy. Acting on it goes a lot farther in turning away from God. As such, the latter will probably carry with it a significantly steeper penance (possibly being withheld communion for a time) than the former (which will more likely be something more along the lines of performing some extra acts of charity along with probably some changes to your prayer rule).

Voluntary and involuntary sins (of which thoughts can be either) are another clear distinction between severity of sin, and in the OT, they even had different sin offerings prescribed for them. Most (though not all) sinful thoughts would fall under involuntary sin.

 

[Roland TB-303]

What’s the bet these men don’t even follow any of the religious customs you have to, to be considered a Muslim. I’d put good money on them not even praying the Salah once a day let alone 5 times per day. I’m sure they’ve never read the Qaran and wouldn’t even be able to recite a single prayer from it. They’re probably actively hostile to religion but have chosen this as a larp for whatever odd reason. If they can’t keep up with hygiene schedules I don’t see them sticking to any regular religious practices. It goes without saying of course but it’s all one big identity farce.

 

[GettrGriftr]

They’re probably actively hostile to religion but have chosen this as a larp for whatever odd reason.

To keep collecting more "oppression" medals.

Gotta catch 'em all!

 

[Art Corvalay]

What’s the bet these men don’t even follow any of the religious customs you have to, to be considered a Muslim. I’d put good money on them not even praying the Salah once a day let alone 5 times per day. I’m sure they’ve never read the Qaran and wouldn’t even be able to recite a single prayer from it. They’re probably actively hostile to religion but have chosen this as a larp for whatever odd reason. If they can’t keep up with hygiene schedules I don’t see them sticking to any regular religious practices. It goes without saying of course but it’s all one big identity farce.

Gives them more victim points and makes them that much more "special". Most of these people have very little individual identity or personality beyond what groups they choose to identify with.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Jannisaries weren't eunuchs, since eunuchs make for shitty soldiers. They were supposed to be celibate and have no family ties, but many in the later era of the Ottoman Empire (when they were the power behind the throne) openly had wives and children, dynasties of their own, and a few even still had ties with their original Christian families (one even used his influence and position of power behind the throne to get his brother elected and enthroned as Patriarch of Constantinople)

No I know that was the joke, do I field my Jannisaries, or do I use my Trannisaries?
Its why the Unsullied from ASoIaF are a retarded idea, yeah lets just cut the nuts off our elite warriors and stunt their growth, give them kyphosis, and deprive them of the Testosterone needed to build muscle and aggression, things that would probably come in handy for warriors.
Considering they were supposed to fight in a Phalanx, possible the most strength dependent of all the ancient formations, its even dumber.

 

[Art Corvalay]

No I know that was the joke, do I field my Jannisaries, or do I use my Trannisaries?
Its why the Unsullied from ASoIaF are a retarded idea, yeah lets just cut the nuts off our elite warriors and stunt their growth, give them kyphosis, and deprive them of the Testosterone needed to build muscle and aggression, things that would probably come in handy for warriors.
Considering they were supposed to fight in a Phalanx, possible the most strength dependent of all the ancient formations, its even dumber.

It's a weirdly common myth that the Jannisaries were eunuchs, and I've seen a lot of people claiming it over the years.

 

[Procrastinhater]

It's a weirdly common myth that the Jannisaries were eunuchs, and I've seen a lot of people claiming it over the years.

I think it comes from a misunderstanding because a lot of people know the Ottomans and other Muslims used to castrate their slaves, so they think Jannisaries as slave soldiers must have been castrated too, not really stopping to think that if you cut the balls off your soldiers you're really just fucking up their fighting potential.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Wow. You know, with the festering humiliation fetish common among troons, I should have foreseen this. I'll chalk it up to my mind shielding me from tranny logic.

 

[ITK]

there's a big difference between thinking "I want to beat the crap out of that guy" and actually beating the crap out of the guy. Acting on it goes a lot farther in turning away from God.

Spoiler: sperging

There isn't actually. Perhaps from a natural law perspective the latter is worse and therefor warrants punishment in a way the former doesn't, but in regards to your communion with God, Christ has equalised the two: “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." The point of the Law of Christ is to fulfill and supersceed the old Law, to exceed in righteousness even that of the Pharisees, who are like whitewashed tombes: on the outside adored and pure but on the inside dead and unclean, to make the outward now extend into the inward. Where once you did not commit adultery, now you do not even lust. Where once you did not murder, now you do not even hate. Where once you did not steal, now you do not even covet. Etc.
Islam has a similar passage to Matthew 5:27, though, and it is standard fare also in Christianity to say that you do not sin merely by being attracted to the same sex, but by engaging in your attractions, by giving in to them and falling into lust. You're correct that there are voluntary and involuntary thoughts, and only voluntary thoughts are sinful.

 

[Art Corvalay]

Spoiler: sperging

There isn't actually. Perhaps from a natural law perspective the latter is worse and therefor warrants punishment in a way the former doesn't, but in regards to your communion with God, Christ has equalised the two: “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." The point of the Law of Christ is to fulfill and supersceed the old Law, to exceed in righteousness even that of the Pharisees, who are like whitewashed tombes: on the outside adored and pure but on the inside dead and unclean, to make the outward now extend into the inward. Where once you did not commit adultery, now you do not even lust. Where once you did not murder, now you do not even hate. Where once you did not steal, now you do not even covet. Etc.
Islam has a similar passage to Matthew 5:27, though, and it is standard fare also in Christianity to say that you do not sin merely by being attracted to the same sex, but by engaging in your attractions, by giving in to them and falling into lust. You're correct that there are voluntary and involuntary thoughts, and only voluntary thoughts are sinful.

The analogy my priest has always made is a roof leak. Sinful thoughts are the water that leaks through the roof. It's not an easy job to fix the roof, but if you get the roof fixed (be diligent with prayer and do what you can to avoid entertaining sinful thoughts), it wont lead to further damage. But if you keep letting them drip through without doing anything about it, you end up with far more catastrophic and ruinous consequences in your house like mildew (porn addiction) or your ceiling collapsing (cheating on your wife). Each individual drop of water doesnt do as much to ruin your house as the ceiling collapsing does, even though that is the direct result of the leak over time without maintenance (repentance). That's the point I'm getting at, and it's why penitential canons treat sins of thought as a bit less severe (and give lighter, more "preventative" penances) compared to sins of action (which tend to more often entail harsher penances, like a period of excommunication).

 

[AMHOLIO]

Shoutouts to this thread for talking more about anything actually religious than Trans Muslimoids.

I think this is one of the hardest threads to find content for since by god, who wants to look at coomers this hard? It's like the DDLG and adult baby threads: sure there's lolcows out there, but do you want to sit there and subject your brain to 50 post of extreme wanking for the funny? No, you turn into that Clockwork Orange scene.

 

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Man Who Identifies As A Muslim Woman Sues City Of New York After Being Incarcerated With Men While Awaiting Trial On Domestic Abuse Charges​

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A trans-identified male is suing the City of New York after he was placed in a men’s detention center while awaiting transfer to another state on charges related to domestic violence. Ali Miles, formerly known as Dylan Miles, is demanding over $22,000,000 in compensation for discrimination on the basis of his gender identity.

Miles, who identifies as a Muslim woman, was incarcerated at the George R. Vierno Center on Rikers Island from June to July of 2022. His custody was a holding prior to his transfer to another state, as he had warrants for his arrest in the state of Arizona. He was then transferred to Yavapai County Jail where he was ultimately tried and found guilty of two counts of aggravated harassment per domestic violence, a Class 5 felony, for instances dated in November 2021 and February 2022.

He was also found guilty of disorderly conduct, harassment, threatening or intimidating, and false reporting to a law enforcement agency, which are all Class 1 misdemeanors.

In October of 2022, he was placed on supervised probation for a period of three years and sentenced to 312 days in jail, with credit added for the 132 days he had already been held there. Miles was also subject to a domestic violence assessment.

But Miles is now taking to the court to sue to the City of New York for detaining him with other males while he was awaiting transfer to Arizona. The suit argues that Miles faced discrimination, assault, and human rights violations after being placed with men.

In addition to the City of New York, other defendants listed on the suit are the Department of Corrections Rikers Island, the New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation, and multiple individuals whose identities have been anonymized.

While asserting that he “wears women’s clothing and in all appearance expresses as a person of the female gender,” the filing argues that Miles was housed in a male facility at Rikers despite allegedly having a court order directing his placement to the female unit.

The suit reveals that following his arrest, Miles informed a judge that he was transgender, and required special housing accommodations to which a judge reportedly agreed. The court file and orders were then marked to notify the prison and their Intake Personnel that Miles was to be housed in the female section of Rikers, but he was not.

“As Miles approached the inside of the building, Miles realized it was a male jail which caused shock, panic and fright to Miles,” the suit reads, referring to Miles using feminine pronouns. “Miles requested and pleaded … that as an LGBTQIA+ individual who was transgendered, she required and needed an accommodation, and that she should not be placed in a male population jail.”

Miles then alleges that a prison staff member said “we don’t do the trans thing here.” He was then strip-searched by a male guard he alleges told him that he had “nice tits” and “one hell of a pussy.” This is despite Miles not having had any known genital surgeries.

Miles continues that he was routinely harassed, “misgendered” and subjected to humiliation during his detention at the George R. Vierno Center. In particular, Miles emphasizes his “sexual victimization” by multiple “African American male” inmates as a result of his placement in a male facility, one of which he alleges sodomized him using butter as lubricant.

Miles is seeking a minimum of $22,000,000 in compensation for the various mistreatments he claims, arguing that the prison’s “unlawful conduct was a direct result of Rikers’ pervasive practices, and customs of discrimination, deliberate indifference, against transgender people.”

Miles is a prolific litigant, and, as previously reported by Reduxx, has filed a number of suits alleging discrimination by various businesses.

In May of 2023, Miles filed a lawsuit against a New York yoga studio seeking compensation of $5,000,000 after employees reportedly asked him to use the men’s restroom instead of the women’s.

In the suit, Miles alleged that the personnel at Chelsea Yoga “deprived [him] of his civil rights because he is gay, undergoing a gender transition, and because Miles does not conform to … gender-based preferences, expectations, or stereotypes about how a man/woman should dress and conduct himself/herself.”

But shortly after that suit was launched, Reduxx learned that Miles had filed at least four other lawsuits, making similar claims of victimization in each.

In February of 2022, Miles filed a civil action for $75,000 in compensation against Sedona Soul Adventures, an Arizona-based business he had previously worked for. Miles alleged that the tourism company had wrongfully terminated his employment shortly after he was hired after subjecting him to “gender identity-based harassment and discrimination.” The suit was dismissed after an out-of-court agreement was reached.

One month later, Miles filed two separate civil actions — one against Planet Fitness and one against Bagel Point, both, again, on the basis of “gender identity-based harassment and discrimination.” In both, Miles represented himself, and failed to use consistent pronouns, often calling himself “Mr. Miles.”

In his poorly-written civil action, Miles alleged that staff at a Planet Fitness threatened to sound the “lunk alarm” on him for entering the women’s facilities, and used a slur when referring to him. The “lunk alarm” is a fixture seen at most Planet Fitness gyms intended to provide a humorous “warning” to those being too loud or obnoxious in the gym.

Miles demanded compensation of $10,000,000 from Planet Fitness, but the suit was ultimately dismissed after he failed to file the appropriate paperwork and pay $402 in filing fees as requested by the court.

In his action against Bagel Point, a cafe in Brooklyn, Miles sought $75,000 in damages alleging he had been wrongfully terminated and subjected to verbal abuse on the basis of his gender identity.

Miles had been an employee of Bagel Point for a short period of time, during which he claimed the owner, a Muslim woman, had referred to him using slurs and mocked his gender identity, as well as crafting “unsubstantiated” complaints about his performance. The action, which was poorly written and rife with spelling errors, was dismissed by the court once again after Miles failed to file the appropriate paperwork and pay $402 in filing fees.

In yet another suit, Miles sought compensation from New York Presbyterian Hospital, once again claiming to have faced discrimination on the basis of his gender identity. The suit was dismissed and an appeal was not filed.

Though it is unclear when Miles began to identify as a woman, he appears to have converted to Islam around the same time. On his social media pages, he has alluded to learning Arabic and following various Islamic teachings.

While Miles’ past cases were quickly snuffed out of the court system, his most recent suit against the City of New York appears to be proceeding. Having previously represented himself unsuccessfully, Miles has retained an attorney for this suit who has requested the case be referred to the court’s Alternative Dispute Resolution Program (ADR). The ADR is an alternative mediation-style arrangement targeted at speeding up settlement.

On January 10, the lawyers for the City of New York requested a time extension to review the details of the case, with the next hearing being set for February 22.

 

[Constellationzero]

Boucher says that initially the women were very accepting, but after three months, a couple of them objected to her being part of the mosque.

Notice how these gross freaks and the "journalists" who need to swing from lamp posts go out of their way to lie by omission?

Lying is a fucking sin. In Christianity and Islam.

 

[Tootsie Bear]

Sounds like he's found a way to make money without doing nothing. Apply for job or join an establishment, do everything poorly and wait till people are freaked out, rage quit and lawyer up that people are being transphobic and that you demand a lot of money or would take a smaller payment to go away. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Boucher says that initially the women were very accepting, but after three months, a couple of them objected to her being part of the mosque.

Notice how these gross freaks and the "journalists" who need to swing from lamp posts go out of their way to lie by omission?

Lying is a fucking sin. In Christianity and Islam.

Well, it's the press and they're naturals at laying and defending fellow pests.

 

[Constellationzero]

Well, it's the press and they're naturals at laying and defending fellow pests.

Yeah, I'm guessing this pest liked to stare a little too hard, or just be a general creep, during Wudu, and, wouldn't you know it--they just "neglected" to mention that.

 

[GethPrime]

Ibn ‘Abbās (radiyallāhu ‘anhumā) said:

لَعَنَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم الْمُتَشَبِّهِينَ مِنَ الرِّجَالِ بِالنِّسَاءِ، وَالْمُتَشَبِّهَاتِ مِنَ النِّسَاءِ بِالرِّجَالِ‏

“Allah’s Messenger (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) cursed the men who resemble and imitate women; and the women who resemble and imitate men.” (Al-Bukhāri, no. 5885)

From Sahih Bukhari, the single most-trusted and used collection of hadiths, Other hadiths state "drive them out of your houses" and "do not let these effeminate men enter among you".

Can't get much more clear-cut than that.

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

Us Muslims share a common axis of oppression with George Floyd.

Spoiler: The offending account

Strange, never heard of a Muslim being called Sera-Jade before.

Computer; enhance.

Life takes the strangest of turns. I wonder what he got up to before becoming a Mu--

Check out his YouTube channel for North Korean propaganda being read by a purportedly deaf New Zealander. Or, and this would be my advice, don't.

 

[glue eater]

Don't you die on me!

Transgender Muslim Inmate Serving 55-Year Sentence For Killing A Baby Launches Discrimination Lawsuit After Being Denied A Hijab​

A trans-identified male currently serving a 55-year sentence for the murder of his infant stepdaughter has launched a lawsuit against the Chaplain at his prison after he was allegedly denied a hijab despite identifying as a Muslim woman. Autumn Cordellioné, previously known as Jonathan C. Richardson, is seeking $150,000 in damages.

As previously reported by Reduxx, Cordellioné was first arrested in 2001 after his 11-month-old stepdaughter died in his care while her mother was at work. The night of the infant’s death, Cordellioné had been visited by friends who later told police that he had been “acting strangely.”

Despite claiming the little girl was inside sleeping, Cordellioné had loud music playing in the home, and his guests noted that he appeared to have a fresh, bleeding tattoo of the child’s name carved into his arm.

Later that night, after his friends left, Cordellioné went to his neighbor and asked him to call 911, claiming the child was unresponsive. When emergency personnel arrived, they were briefly able to resuscitate the girl, but she died shortly after being rushed to the hospital.

Cordellioné was interviewed by police, who noted he was “calm and unemotional” during questioning, and his story about what happened to the baby changed dramatically over the course of the two interviews conducted.

At first, Cordellioné claimed he found the baby unresponsive after doing some household chores. But in the next interview, Cordellioné said the child was being “fussier than usual” and he attempted to throw her up in the air repeatedly in an effort to calm her down. He said her “head bopped forward and back up in a rough type of a manner,” and that the child continued to cry so he proceeded to shake her aggressively in an effort to calm her down.

During a failed appeals hearing, detectives from the case recounted how Cordellioné “physically showed” how he had manhandled the girl, getting up out of his chair and demonstrating the action in a rough manner.

An autopsy subsequently found that the baby had died of asphyxiation by manual strangulation. Cordellioné was booked awaiting a court hearing, and would later tell a prison official “all I know is I killed the little fucking bitch.”

Cordellioné was found guilty and sentenced to 55 years in prison for the horrific crime. He is currently incarcerated at the Branchville Correctional Facility, an institution for male offenders.

Last August, Cordellioné joined forces with the American Civil Liberties Union to sue the Indiana Department of Corrections, citing “discrimination” on the basis of his gender identity. That case is currently in progress.

But Reduxx has now learned that that Cordellioné has also launched a separate suit against the prison’s Chaplain, Tony Gray. Gray has been a Chaplain at the facility since 2014, and volunteered at the institution prior to being offered an official role.

In the lawsuit, filed on November 3, 2023, Cordellioné accuses Gray of violating his First, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendment constitutional rights.

According to court records obtained by Reduxx, the incident of complaint took place in May of 2023 after Gray informed Cordellioné that he was not allowed to don a hijab outside of his cell. In response, Cordellioné said: “I wear the hijab in order to cover my head and ears for modesty purposes, as I am an Islamic practicing transwoman.”

At the time, Cordellioné’s registered religion was “Wiccan” and Gray pointed that out, to which Cordellioné replied that he was an “eclectic practitioner who is a member of the Theosophical Society in America.”

The Theosophical Society is headquartered in Chennai, India, and is considered an “esoteric new religious movement.” Founded in 1875, it describes itself as a “unsectarian body of seekers after Truth,” and its practitioners appear to dabble in the philosophy and beliefs of multiple religions simultaneously. One of its founders is Russian mystic Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, who stated in 1889 that “the purpose of establishing the Society was to prepare humanity for the reception of a World Teacher.”

Cordellioné is claiming that his equal protection rights were violated when he was barred from wearing a hijab outside of his cell, noting that male Muslims in the facility are allowed to wear kufis or taqiyah — a short, rounded brimless prayer cap.

“Islamic faith mandates the wearing of a kufi for males … Islamic faith also mandates females of the faith wear hijabs when outside the home and when not amongst men of their family. Tony Gray allows male Muslims to wear their sufis, but denies me, a transwoman, the same privilege.”

Cordellioné also alleges that Gray’s refusal to allow him to wear a hijab violated his eighth amendment rights against cruel and unusual punishment. In his argument, Cordellioné claims the he was subjected to “harassment and ridicule” by the Islamic community in his prison because he had not been allowed to wear a hijab.

“[Gray] should be aware, as Chaplain, the stigma and shame that is attributed to Islamic women when they go uncovered and without a hijab,” Cordellioné writes in his complaint. “Women are viewed as whores, tempters of men, and adulterators; by Islamic society both in and out of prison. I have been shunned, made a social pariah, and amongst my own religious community.”

He continues: “Without the support of the Islamic community, I will struggle and likely fail to achieve salvation for by [sic] Mohammed’s teachings a Muslim who knows of the teachings, yet strays from them, will never reach heaven.”

In his stated request for relief, Cordellioné is seeking the ability to wear his hijab in prison, as well as $150,000 in compensation.

Since filing, there has been some back-and-forth with the court surrounding Cordellioné’s financial situation, with the court requesting a nominal initial filing fee of $36.55, but Cordellioné claiming he does not have the money to pay it. If he cannot demonstrate deficiency in the time the court has specified, his case might be dismissed.

 

[Tootsie Bear]

You got to love the Don Vito lazy eye. What's funny it's the same eye that's lazy too. What are the odds? Regardless if they're Muslim send them to Hamas. Let's see what the freedom fighters have to say about our heroic transwoman Muslim.