Total War thread

[The Stranger]

But to answer your question, WH3

But I didn't ask what game you think I should play. I asked what were the issues people had with WH3 because I was already leaning that way and wanted to know why people here shit on it before I buy it.

 

[I Know 孤独のせい]

But I didn't ask what game you think I should play.

I've literally never played a Total War game and was interested in starting but don't know which game to play you spergy fucks

 

[Paul-Denton]

But I didn't ask what game you think I should play. I asked what were the issues people had with WH3 because I was already leaning that way and wanted to know why people here shit on it before I buy it.

game bad, CA gay. There's tons of material you could thumb through to figure out people's problems with the game yet you come in niggering up the place.

 

[I Know 孤独のせい]

game bad, CA gay. There's tons of material you could thumb through to figure out people's problems with the game yet you come in niggering up the place.

 

[The Stranger]

There's tons of material you could thumb through to figure out people's problems with the game yet you come in niggering up the place.

No one's going to read through a whole ass thread just to find the negatives of a product they're interested in before buying it. You act like I derailed an active thread when the last post before my first was last fucking week.
And if you really think someone asking an innocuous question is "niggering up the place" you have literal, genuine autism.

 

[CasketBase]

Honestly, I'd buy Med3
IF it had sieges better than Shogun 2
Macro/Eco/Empire management at least on the level of Rome1/Med2
And a nice big map with a bunch of interesting factions, like, proper Slavs instead of just Novgorod with half a roster that builds castles for some reason, also proper steppeniggers like playable Mongols/Tatars, and maybe jeets to flood the battle map with brown cannon fodder for you to either wrangle or wreck and rout.
Also, Crusades with proper deus vulting, none of that sissy shameful hiding of historical religious zealotry.
On release. No chopping shit up for DLC like they do these days.
So, I'm probably not buying Med3, then

And if you really think someone asking an innocuous question is "niggering up the place" you have literal, genuine autism.

I'll bite. It's "y'all", I'd wager.
Are you a Southerner?
Either way: Total War games used to simulate low-tech warfare (i.e. melee-focused sword-and-board-and-arrow-and-trebuchet stuff). Things like unit morale, height advantage, line of sight mattered in a big way and worked pretty much how they do in real life: soldiers get scared of flaming arrows and getting rammed from behind by heavy cavalry, that sort of thing. But the devs also had huge issues with the engine and ended up dropping the realism. RTS in general is a very tech-intensive genre, things like unit pathfinding just need to work, period, there's no "quick and dirty", no half-assing it to spend the money on flashy art and cool models or marketing, you either code it well and it works, or your game sucks ass to play both in singleplayer and against other humans. It's kind of hard to describe, but old Total War games used to make you feel like you're commanding a medieval army, because the devs actually bothered to simulate various aspects of Iron Age warfare properly.
Newer ones (and especially Warhammer, since it's fantasy) threw all of that out. Units with shields used to literally block arrows with their shields (so you could flank them with archers to shoot them from a side where there's no shield coverage). In newer ones, the shield-bearing troops just have a chance to block damage that is rolled whenever they eat an arrow or a crossbow bolt. There were no health bars: only the commanders had hitpoints (for balance purposes, to prevent them from being sniped too easily). Generals' retinues used to have two HP, and things like war elephants had twelve. Everybody else either blocked damage with their shield or armor or fucking dropped. Now every individual soldier in a unit has an HP pool and every attack has a different damage value like in RPGs, so a volley of arrows that should, in real life, cause casualties instead just eats away at the unit's health, softening it up for future attacks but not impacting it's offensive effectiveness and ability to take up space on the battlefield (kind of important for sword-and-board warfare actually). The series sort of lost its charm over the years by ditching the simulation aspect, basically. Also became riddled with unfun fake difficulty bullshit, like the CPU being incompetent and compensating by cheating (boosted unit stats during battles, free shit on the zoomed-out strategic layer). Warhammer is the peak of that, because it has huge monsters and magic and various superhuman creatures. You can do things like wreck half the enemy army with just your commander, which, while fun, doesn't feel authentic/logically consistent and gets old pretty quickly.
There's a guy on Youtube named Volound. He's a bit of an angry sperg (has a thread on here apparently), but some of his old videos outline all the problems with newer Total War games fairly well.

TLDR: if you just wanna ram technicolor fantasy monsters into each other and clap like a tard, go for Warhammer. If you want something cool with a decently high skillcap, go for Shogun 2 instead. Older ones like Rome 1 or Medieval 2 can be a bit janky. Also, I personally haven't played TW in years, so maybe all of the above issues ended up getting patched out in some of the newer ones, dunno.

 

[Ayynon69]

No one's going to read through a whole ass thread just to find the negatives of a product they're interested in before buying it. You act like I derailed an active thread when the last post before my first was last fucking week.
And if you really think someone asking an innocuous question is "niggering up the place" you have literal, genuine autism.

You may not have heard of this but there are websites where you can download torrents to basically every form of digital media. Try before you buy, if you will. In fact, don't even buy it.
Consider it a Christmas present from the TW thread.
To a niggerlicious poster:



Merry Christmas!

 

[The Stranger]

TLDR: if you just wanna ram technicolor fantasy monsters into each other and clap like a tard, go for Warhammer. If you want something cool with a decently high skillcap, go for Shogun 2 instead. Older ones like Rome 1 or Medieval 2 can be a bit janky. Also, I personally haven't played TW in years, so maybe all of the above issues ended up getting patched out in some of the newer ones, dunno.

Thank you for the informed response, kiwifren

You may not have heard of this but there are websites where you can download torrents to basically every form of digital media. Try before you buy, if you will. In fact, don't even buy it.
Consider it a Christmas present from the TW thread.
To a niggerlicious poster:

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Merry Christmas!

Ok retard

https://crackrelease.com/total-war-warhammer-iii/

 

[>IMPLYING]

Thank you for the informed response, kiwifren


Ok retard
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https://crackrelease.com/total-war-warhammer-iii/

Step 1: Buy cheapest version of Warhammer 3 you can, be it steam or cdkey. Or (if it's now possible), simply download basegame Warhammer 3 on Steam and then continue to step 2.
Step 2: Go to cs.rin.ru
Step 3: Click "enter forum about steam games"
Step 4: Create an account
Step 5: Search for the "Warhammer III" thread

Step 6: Follow the steps in the first post to unlock the DLCs (and thereby all the content) for a legitimate copy of the base game. Go to the final page and go backwards to find the most up to date version of the DLCs/Files if need be + updated CreamAPI.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The Boshin War is probably the only one where the TW version had vastly more casualties than the real thing, yet Fall of the Samurai is one of the best TW campaigns.

It's probably best to interpret Fall of the Samurai as a full alternate history "what if the Boshin War was a second Sengoku" instead of the Boshin War itself.

 

[Slap47]

But I didn't ask what game you think I should play. I asked what were the issues people had with WH3 because I was already leaning that way and wanted to know why people here shit on it before I buy it.

I was genuinely considering getting one of these games until I learned that I need all of the previous games to get the full experience. Absolute insanity.

 

[The Stranger]

I was genuinely considering getting one of these games until I learned that I need all of the previous games to get the full experience. Absolute insanity.

Yea it's ridiculous but WH3 is on sale for like $15 rn so I got it and tried out the hack that Implying posted and it worked, albeit I had to mess around with it a bit

 

[Snekposter]

Yea it's ridiculous but WH3 is on sale for like $15 rn so I got it and tried out the hack that Implying posted and it worked, albeit I had to mess around with it a bit

If you use Koalageddon V1 (V2's method was blocked by Steam) you don't even need to fuck around with anything manually. Works for everything I've got. Paradox, Total War, MechWarrior, even Sins of a Solar Empire 2.

Hell, it even works too well at times, since when I played MechWarrior Online through Steam the game wanted me to redeem some things you can buy on Steam that are classed as DLC.s

 

[The Stranger]

If you use Koalageddon V1 (V2's method was blocked by Steam) you don't even need to fuck around with anything manually. Works for everything I've got. Paradox, Total War, MechWarrior, even Sins of a Solar Empire 2.

Hell, it even works too well at times, since when I played MechWarrior Online through Steam the game wanted me to redeem some things you can buy on Steam that are classed as DLC.s

I had no idea there was this whole subculture of pirating DLCs but damn it's awesome

 

[National Defense Advocate]

I WILL shit talk the game, I WILL leave a negative review and I WILL main Imperial Guard.

 

[Snekposter]

I had no idea there was this whole subculture of pirating DLCs but damn it's awesome

If there's anything the Russians are good at, its stealing.

 

[Monopolywheel]

Legend of Totalwar quitting video

 

[ShitLurker]

I had no idea there was this whole subculture of pirating DLCs but damn it's awesome

I tried warhammer 2 via "aggresive demoing" before I paid. I highly suggest you go with that since the actual turn by turn gameplay will be the same between 2 and 3. Anyway, I played a decent chunk of 2, but never got 3. Biggest first thing you need to know is races are locked by game. You want skaven or high elves? That would mean warhammer 2, dwarfs? 1, Demons? 3. The special campaign mode from 3 is now available in all of the older ganes, so if you really like dwarfs and nothing else, you can buy 1 and play the 3 campaign mode,you cannot play anything from 2 or 3 but you can fight against all of the races.

As for the beef against 3 in particular... didn't play it and no idea if it still applies... but I believe the native campaign is ass with a very jank system to progress through the realms of chaos, the siege battles got even shittier (and they were already pretty shit) and most battles are some form of that instead of pitched battles. Those are the big things I can think of related purely about 3, also, the base armies seemed pretty barren even though they did have varied mechanics.

Also, I'm not a total war fan, I just like warhammer, so I know dick about how far the total war series has fallen. I had my fun with it and if you like it you can blow thousands of hours into it, but if you want deeper strategy, you will definitely rather play one of the older total war games were diplomacy and commerce are a lot more relevant.

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

Legend of Totalwar quitting video
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mX7Th-91t2U

With Pilps and Melkor also gone you can pretty much throw the entire TW youtube sphere in the trash.

 

[Monopolywheel]

With Pilps and Melkor also gone you can pretty throw the entire TW youtube sphere in the trash.

Melkor is still around even though I swear he said he was quitting youtube