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This has probably been brought up before so sorry if it's late but does Enter have any idea how hard it is to break into this industry is in the first place? On average most companies won't even look at applicants for entry level positions without three or more years experience in the business. The rare exception of this is usually where you went to school. CalArts, Ringling, and SCAD graduates often get hired right out the gate or at least get internships easily. Portfolios are your make or break. They have to be fucking amazing just to get a glimpse at.

Enter has no professional experience. He's not even good enough to be eaten alive by the business. The guy won't even be able to get into the pool.

Nayolfa said:
A better way for me to word that: Those scripts aren't the final product, and will be massively changed.
Thanks for pointing that out.

@WhoWantsStancakes - Please do, I'd love to see the bat-shit crazy lies you come up with about me.

@Dilbertmann - This cartoon is mine as much as it is MrEnter's. The copyright to GA has my name on it too.
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Nayolfa said:
Nope, I was friends with MrEnter 3 months before we started Growing Around. After MrEnter reviewed the "Shorty McShort Shorts" We tossed ideas about how to do "Flip Flopped" and "Too Many Robots" better.
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That's another problem, Kyle: you can't just steal someone else's idea for a show and "do it better". Successful cartoons like Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, and Over the Garden Wall all work in large part due to having original premises. The creators of those cartoons didn't just take someone else's idea and "improve" it. Those shows also have interesting characters, original plots, and humor and drama that actually work. Significant thought is also given to how the worlds of those cartoons work. With all the talk Mr. Enter makes about worldbuilding, you'd think he'd be better at it. Simply put, Growing Around lacks literally everything that makes good cartoons work.
 
100 Whole Bepis said:
Hey, guess what? I just watched Flip Flopped. Not MrEnter's review of Shorty McShortShorts, the actual short, by its own merits. And yeah it wasn't very good, but it's still better than anything I've seen from Growing Around. You know why? BECAUSE THE ADULTS ARE ACTUALLY SHOWN AS BEING LESS MATURE THAN THE CHILDREN. So the kids being in charge actually makes sense.

But honestly, it wasn't a concept worth saving in the first place. It's very hard to make sense and the effort would be better spent on a better idea. so why even do it.
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That was actually Enter's main complaint with Flip Flopped.
 
Nayolfa said:
A better way for me to word that: Those scripts aren't the final product, and will be massively changed.
Thanks for pointing that out.

@WhoWantsStancakes - Please do, I'd love to see the bat-shit crazy lies you come up with about me.
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Come now. What could we possibly make up that would be more autistic than the record you already left all over the Internet under that name?
 
Ya see what happened, Kyle? Everyone's now shitting on you. If I were you, I'd apologize and break ties with Enter at once.

Oh, and one more thing: I made some parody scripts for your crappy show. Just traverse through this thread and you'll see what I mean.
 
Judging from his title cards the guy trying to get into animation can't fucking draw.
 
a new show is going to air on the hub network with a similiar idea to growing around:

well, there goes the show m8
 
Dilbertmann said:
By "better", you mean make it a lot more stupider than it needed it to be? Look, it's a nice idea, but pulling stuff out of both your asses isn't going to sit. This "cartoon", mark my words, will bomb. Viewers, reviews, whatever. Redo the project and the critics will loosen up and the show won't fail as hard.
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This whole conversation I've been blatantly saying that we are still improving on everything. If you hate the cartoon I'm okay with that, but calling it shit and a failure without giving alternative routs to take is not helpful.

@Aobozu Pitching it to a network will receive way more benefits than making it a web series and hoping it gets popular enough to pay off all the time it took to make it. As well as speed up production time. So it doesn't take 6 months to make a single episode at a time.

@100 Whole Bepis - And this one focuses more so on helping the kids learn about responsibilities by being in the work force, opening up much more story potential. Having reasons behind your cartoon doesn't always guarantee it being a good idea.

@KFC I watch and enjoy a show, so I'm apparently obsessed with it? I watch more media other than MLP that I enjoy. EX - Steven Universe, The Walking Dead, Avatar the Last Airbender. I dabble in the MLP community often since it's something special to me. During the time I watched MLP I made great friends and changed from an antisocial shut-in to someone with goals and aspirations.

And don't worry, I'm not deleting any of my history. I've changed a lot from when I used any of those sites, so just seeing them only makes me feel nostalgic. I acknowledge my past on the internet, and will fully admit to everything I've done there. Over the course of my years on the internet I've changed into the person I am today. I'm not perfect, and neither is any other living soul.

*So many posts coming in and so much drama. I'll take my leave for tonight, I'm losing time to work.
 
Nayolfa said:
This whole conversation I've been blatantly saying that we are still improving on everything. If you hate the cartoon I'm okay with that, but calling it shit and a failure without giving alternative routs to take is not helpful.

@Aobozu Pitching it to a network will receive way more benefits than making it a web series and hoping it gets popular enough to pay off all the time it took to make it. As well as speed up production time. So it doesn't take 6 months to make a single episode at a time.

@100 Whole Bepis - And this one focuses more so on helping the kids learn about responsibilities by being in the work force, opening up much more story potential. Having reasons behind your cartoon doesn't always guarantee it being a good idea.

@KFC I watch and enjoy a show, so I'm apparently obsessed with it? I watch more media other than MLP that I enjoy. EX - Steven Universe, The Walking Dead, Avatar the Last Airbender. I dabble in the MLP community often since it's something special to me. During the time I watched MLP I made great friends and changed from an antisocial shut-in to someone with goals and aspirations.

And don't worry, I'm not deleting any of my history. I've changed a lot from when I used any of those sites, so just seeing them only makes me feel nostalgic. I acknowledge my past on the internet, and will fully admit to everything I've done there. Over the course of my years on the internet I've changed into the person I am today. I'm not perfect, and neither is any other living soul.

*So many posts coming in and so much drama. I'll take my leave for tonight, I'm losing time to work.
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Omfg do you read a single fucking thing we're saying, or are you just shielding yourself?

Wake the fuck up.

Your show isn't doing anything creative or note-worthy. Scrap the project and move on to better things. Unlike Enter-boy, you actually have some form of talent. Don't lose it.
 
Piga Dgrifm said:
About 14 minutes in:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXfWwOa9H78
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Once again MrEnter's intense autism rears its ugly head as he's completely incapable of understanding the concept of juxtaposition. Of course it makes no sense. THAT'S THE FUCKING JOKE. It's not supposed to tell a deep complex story about how a world like this would really work. It's supposed to be funny. Now, it's true that the joke didn't really pan out and couldn't have carried a whole series. But that doesn't mean "Oh this is totally a good concept to seriously explore!" It isn't.

Nayolfa said:
@100 Whole Bepis - And this one focuses more so on helping the kids learn about responsibilities by being in the work force, opening up much more story potential. Having reasons behind your cartoon doesn't always guarantee it being a good idea.
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That's even worse. These kids are IDIOTS. Unlikable, whiny idiots. Drop the pretenses that it's good to identify with them or treat them like role models.

Also what the fuck is the point of adults going to school? I'm coming into this show knowing that kids are more receptive to learning. So just throwing them into the world to lead while teaching them all the vital information later is just stupid.
 
Nayolfa said:
This whole conversation I've been blatantly saying that we are still improving on everything. If you hate the cartoon I'm okay with that, but calling it shit and a failure without giving alternative routs to take is not helpful.
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Says the man that called @WhoWantsStancakes having "bat-shit crazy lies". Ya just don't get it.

Here's the thing: I'm hard at work making something of my own. Sure, it's flawed, but I got big plans for it in the future, and I'm putting a crew together as we speak. I put a lot of thought into it over the past few years. You and Enter, on the other hand, pulled this cliche idea out of some dumb cartoon and took it dead seriously when it's supposed to just be a silly, comical idea. If you put lots of thought and passion into the whole idea, then it wouldn't be so bad.
 
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