The Riordan Autism

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The handsome tard said:
You know, looking back at the original P.J series (without all this shared universe fuckery that was a fucking mistake in my opinion)

You kind of feel like the conclusion of the story felt very formuliac if that makes any sense.

Cronos is defeated and things are back to the barely functional status quo. Gods are still massive arrogant pricks who treat humans like shit but hey, at least we are not speaking titan, arent we?

It just feels like there wasnt a moment where the gods are forced to at themselves and asks "Are we the baddies?" since greek mythology has no shortage of stories where the gods come off as borderline cosmic horror monsters. And we are suppose to want them around even if Cronos would have been the worse option?

I dont know, I know this series was meant for middle schoolers and ultimately what Im suggesting would kind of end up being out of their age range but it really feels like, if this series were allowed to, it should have asked the question "Is Luke right? At least in some way? Sure, Cronos isnt the preferable option but to just stick with those gods doesnt seem like the best option either".

This is where I kind of think the fact that this story being meant for children kind of held it back on some real possibilities. Having our hero realise that he is fighting for a dysfunctional status quo and there that, while he is fighting against Cronos, he isnt fighting for the gods either and that there has to be a way to making this world less fucked up than already is with all these monsters roaming around freely.

Sometimes the series is REALLY counting on kids not knowing some of the darkest tales of mythology, which, lets face it, are a lot. Rick wanted to keep things simple and I can respect that but I would also kind of recognise that this story could have been better or at least have more spice if it bothered to explore these territories.
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The ending of the Apollo series kind of touched on this, Zeus is portrayed as an abusive prick and Apollo ends the series hating him.
 
>Like Greek and Roman history as a kid because Roman and Greek armor looked cool
>usually check out the Arms and Armor book and a few myth books
>librarian recommends Lightning Thief
>read the first book and think it’s okay
>last book of OG series is unstatisfactory

I kinda expected him to be a cuck, but it’s sad to see. I could only autisically sperg about myth to people who read his books.

The only good Greek Gods were Hades and Ares, they just did their jobs. Ares is mostly lost to history and depending on the myths we have is the only one who loves his children. He took went to trial after killing a Demi-god who raped and murdered his daughter and got off. He cucked a manlet cripple who’s idea of revenge is showing that he is indeed a proud cuck.
By all accounts Ares is a chad. Zeus pisses and shits himself because fathers tend to be killed by their first born son in Greek myths. Depending on the myth he’s friends with Heracles despite Heracles killing his son, but Heracles is the Mary Sue of Greek myth fucker spread to Japan.
 
Crystal Coomer said:
I was an avid fan of the Percy Jackson books in highschool so when I saw the films I wasn't fazed at the changes because the books themselves already had the same tone. My sisters and I saw them in theaters and they were a blast. They never read the books and they still enjoyed the movies.

I get why people disliked the films, but they weren't as bad as Eragon and Artemis Fowl to me. The movies only felt like an extension of the books. The plot didn't need to be 1:1 as the book because Percy Jackson books were never about the plot. Percy Jackson was never trying to be thunk-provoking creative genius. Just absurd, meta humor and light drama involving greco-roman mythology. Lots of parent-child relationship building. Not to say childrens books should be low brow, but kids deserve guilty pleasures too.

As an aside, a lot of time spent reading the Percy Jackson books are in the little tangents the characters have. To someone who just wants to see what happens next, it must be so infuriating... but I personally loved everyone's rambling about goings on. Most character building occurs from their own perspectives. The writing sorta differs character to character too, for instance I recall Percy makes a lot of pop culture references while Annabeth sections were more stoic (at first), experienced in mythos, and calculating. Niko's sections had lots of critical, self awareness. Jason was always boring as fuck to me while Leo was a more interesting character with a similar sense of humor to Percy (and they even have a conversation about it at some point). Perspective changes and seeing the thoughts of other characters is why I enjoyed the books.

I can't recall if it was (Aphorodite or Eros), but Niko has a conversstion with a love god and criticizes them for making him gay. They admit they made him gay for the sake of drama (seriously). Niko eventually accepts the gods being assholes and his homosexuality. Niko is a very defeatist character who only becomes emboldened after he leaves Camp Halfblood and does his own thing.
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Like a lot of people in this thread I liked the OG Percy Jackson series, didn't bother to read the other series he made. I liked them for what they were: little romps of escapist adventures to kill time for a fifth-grader on a car ride or at the dentist's office. It's kind of a shame that he went full turbo-tard as the years go by and even after seeing the results of it, he doesn't change his ways. Riordan is guzzling an ungodly amount of the woke juice and he's a blind eye to the damage it is doing to him as a writer. Never drink the woke juice, especially if you're a children's/YA author. It never ends well.

As an aside on the whole 'turning someone gay because the greek gods are shit-stirring drama whores' thing, this could make for an interesting and deep concept with fate and if there is such thing as free will and that if it is possible to defy the gods to earn a better life for yourself in a more mature or better written series. But given the current climate, if nico decided to pull of a rage against the gods thing and carve out his own fate, there would be a torrent of wokies screaming homophobia instead of realizing the horror and existentialism of being forced into your sexuality because some dipshit in Olympus decided it'd be funny to make you gay.
 
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No Riordan, you're the racist for again proving that fuckers like you believe that black people only deserve the white man's sloppy seconds. Why bother with creating an original role when you can hand-me-down a role to a minority and pretend you aren't just some cynical fucker who sees them as a source of money and corp-sec?

Also totally astroturfed hate campaign IMO. They love doing that to try and defend why the inept trash they wrote and they know sucks balls should still be watched.
 
Crystal Coomer said:
can't recall if it was (Aphorodite or Eros), but Niko has a conversstion with a love god and criticizes them for making him gay. They admit they made him gay for the sake of drama (seriously).
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When does this happen? I know of his fight with Cupid where he gets bullied into admitting he’s gay but I don’t remember any god admitting they made him gay.

Cryptojew said:
Right on cue. It's almost as if he chose Leah for the role for the sole purpose of writing this blog post after the fact.

He really is a sanctimonious cunt, isn't he?
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I feel terrible for Leah. Getting a leading role for a highly-anticipated adaptation at 12 years old should be the best day of her life, but instead she’s being sucked into a social media slapfight over book accuracy and Riordan using her casting backlash to soapbox and call people racist. For her sake I hope this shitstorm passes quickly and Riordan keeps his mouth shut.
 
Soggy Towel said:
I feel terrible for Leah. Getting a leading role for a highly-anticipated adaptation at 12 years old should be the best day of her life, but instead she’s being sucked into a social media slapfight over book accuracy and Riordan using her casting backlash to soapbox and call people racist. For her sake I hope this shitstorm passes quickly and Riordan keeps his mouth shut.
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Let's be real, if Riordan kept his mouth shut (and her parents keeping her from social media), none of this backlash would happen.

Shame that he went from just wanting to write a silly fun book for his ADHD son to using a literal child to market her race for woke points. Disgusting!
 
I saw the Annabeth casting coming since she's the Not!Hermione (even though her character I suppose was supposed to be subverting expectations by having a blonde girl be smart and serious instead of a Stacy, which has some awkward implications if she's a black girl instead, although the black Hermione type female character is becoming more common). I suppose Riordan is angling to be the new Rowling since she torpedod her status with progressives by being anti trans. He probably won't be, for as much as the target audience and fandom circles liked the books Percy Jackson never had that massive of a cultural impact. Large groups of people aren't buying or making their own Camp Halfblood tshirts or calling themselves the child of whatever Greek god or making fanmade ambrosia recipes. The most widespread exposure it's gotten is discussion about the movies being shit.

Absolutely terrible that Leah's being used as a pawn in the culture wars though. There's no way they didn't know this would happen and the reaction of "GOTCHA! I did it to make the racists mad" does nothing to actually help her, the literal child who's affected by all this.
 
Very confused about this casting decision for the new movie. It's been a while since I've read the books, but I thought that Annabeth was supposed to be blonde, not a redhead.
 
Xerxes IX said:
I saw the Annabeth casting coming since she's the Not!Hermione (even though her character I suppose was supposed to be subverting expectations by having a blonde girl be smart and serious instead of a Stacy, which has some awkward implications if she's a black girl instead, although the black Hermione type female character is becoming more common). I suppose Riordan is angling to be the new Rowling since she torpedod her status with progressives by being anti trans. He probably won't be, for as much as the target audience and fandom circles liked the books Percy Jackson never had that massive of a cultural impact. Large groups of people aren't buying or making their own Camp Halfblood tshirts or calling themselves the child of whatever Greek god or making fanmade ambrosia recipes. The most widespread exposure it's gotten is discussion about the movies being shit.

Absolutely terrible that Leah's being used as a pawn in the culture wars though. There's no way they didn't know this would happen and the reaction of "GOTCHA! I did it to make the racists mad" does nothing to actually help her, the literal child who's affected by all this.
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Eh, while it hasn't gotten as far as a reach in terms of rabid retarded fandoms, i do remember seeing a few riordan autists making copypastas claiming to be whatever child of greek god that they like the most on fanfic sites and maybe a couple of camp halfblood shirts in public once or twice. So yeah there is some level of HP spergery there but isn't as noticeable/widespread.

Also wtf riordan, don't drag a literal child into your virtue signaling bs. jesus christ, wokies have zero standards so long as it means to pwn da bigoted haterz, even going so far as to friendly fire on their own army of tards.
 
The Husbando Collector said:
Eh, while it hasn't gotten as far as a reach in terms of rabid retarded fandoms, i do remember seeing a few riordan autists making copypastas claiming to be whatever child of greek god that they like the most on fanfic sites and maybe a couple of camp halfblood shirts in public once or twice. So yeah there is some level of HP spergery there but isn't as noticeable/widespread.

Also wtf riordan, don't drag a literal child into your virtue signaling bs. jesus christ, wokies have zero standards so long as it means to pwn da bigoted haterz, even going so far as to friendly fire on their own army of tards.
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Yeah, I specified large groups because I know that behavior was out there, but it never got to the point of being a lifestyle the way extreme HPtards were.
 
In retrospect, I'm kinda glad I aged out of these books around the time The Last Olympian got released and the second series started around a year later. Finding out through this thread all the dumb pandering retconned wokeshit Riordan does to give Rowling a run for her money made me more upset than I thought I would be. I liked the first series a lot growing up, but I'm sure I'd probably hate reading it now both because I have aged out of YA and knowing that Riordan takes multiple massive shits on his work to own the cons would probably spoil any semblance of a nostalgia trip I might have trying to briefly relive my adolescence.
 
Some Badger said:
In retrospect, I'm kinda glad I aged out of these books around the time The Last Olympian got released and the second series started around a year later. Finding out through this thread all the dumb pandering retconned wokeshit Riordan does to give Rowling a run for her money made me more upset than I thought I would be. I liked the first series a lot growing up, but I'm sure I'd probably hate reading it now both because I have aged out of YA and knowing that Riordan takes multiple massive shits on his work to own the cons would probably spoil any semblance of a nostalgia trip I might have trying to briefly relive my adolescence.
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The second series isn’t that bad in terms of pandering, the only “wokeshit” is nico being retconned to being gay which, from what I remember, is written decently well and isn’t as in-your-face virtue signally as the genderfluid/islam stuff in the Norse books.

In my opinion the Heroes of Olympus series is one of the best series of rick’s because it dumps the first person writing, and how he wrote about nico’s sexuality just came off as an old man trying to be hip with the kids. Every book after that is when he takes a nosedive into annoying virtue signaling.
 
This is a character who's described as having gray eyes like her mother in the book. Now, you could argue exactly what "bright-eyed" for Athena meant in regards to the actual mythological descriptions, but even the most charitable interpretation would be piercing blue eyes. This is something that is actually important to the story and the myths. The justification for this kind of thing usually goes something like "the actor's race doesn't matter if the character's race doesn't matter" but this is a situation that I don't even know how you could begin to argue that. So I guess the only response is "you're racist," which is what Riordan went for, to the surprise of no one.

Hell, I'm mad about Percy not having black hair as well.
 
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Soggy Towel said:
The second series isn’t that bad in terms of pandering, the only “wokeshit” is nico being retconned to being gay which, from what I remember, is written decently well and isn’t as in-your-face virtue signally as the genderfluid/islam stuff in the Norse books.

In my opinion the Heroes of Olympus series is one of the best series of rick’s because it dumps the first person writing, and how he wrote about nico’s sexuality just came off as an old man trying to be hip with the kids. Every book after that is when he takes a nosedive into annoying virtue signaling.
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I wonder if Kane Chronicles would be KANG chronicles if he wrote it today. Or would he just refuse to write it because it would be racist cultural appropriation to write a series about Egyptian mythology with black and egyptian characters?

The books were decent and had no awkward pandering moments, the only weird race thing I remember was actually the opposite (the Egyptian gods are egyptian looking as you expect, except for Anubis who's an emo white boy and the love interest of the female main character. He does fuse with a black guy at the end of the series though, who was the female MC's other love interest so I guess this was how Riordan dealt with the YA love triangle shit everyone loved at the time)
 
Cryptojew said:
Riordan is pretty well known for hating all the changes the movies made to his story, so if he's involved in the Disney+ show in any capacity I'd imagine it will be somewhat more true to the books. The real question is if he's become so woke that he'll use the show as an excuse to make the original characters more "diverse" to appeal to his increasingly SocJus fanbase. After that awful genderqueer character, I honestly wouldn't put it past him to decide that Grover is a proud trans-goat or something.
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How do you feel being proven right?
 
Manwithn0n0men said:
How do you feel being proven right?
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Vindicated, in a depressed kind of way. I would have liked to see a faithful adaptation of the books- writing quality aside, they were a big part of my childhood. With politics as they are now though, I don't think "faithful adaptations" really exist anymore.

Greifing aside, has the fanbase started to draw fanart of black Annabeth yet? There's a whole subsection of the HP fandom who exclusively draws Hermione as black after the stageplay came out with the black actress, I'm wondering if things will be the same here.
 
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