The Official Tomb Raider Grieving Thread - Including the sad, pathetic 2010s trilogy.

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Do we really need a new reboot?

  • Yeah, I think it's about that time

  • No, the franchise is dead.

  • NO, A FOLLOWUP WHERE LARA PREACHES BOUT SLAY QUEEN DEFEATING EVIL ORANGE MAN

  • who cares, square enix killed another franchise


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apparently this is the lead writer for TR12
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apparently this is the lead writer for TR12
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Maybe she'll cause the game to fail badly enough, or start enough bullshit behind the scenes, that they'll be forced to reboot Tomb Raider again. Optimistic, I know.

I can't find much on twitter about her thoughts on tomb raider specifically, just a cosplay she did in 2016. Not bad tbh.
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Maybe she'll cause the game to fail badly enough, or start enough bullshit behind the scenes, that they'll be forced to reboot Tomb Raider again. Optimistic, I know.

I can't find much on twitter about her thoughts on tomb raider specifically, just a cosplay she did in 2016. Not bad tbh.
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Interesting... Well, she got Lara's look right, I can respect that.
So far the new game is confirmed to "unify the timelines", so most likely it's gonna be a soft reboot but they'll keep survivor Lara's backstory because "All Laras are valid" and shit. Another remake of TR1 is also rumored.
 
example of classic fans being retarded

Why Crystal Lara's outfits are Problematic® (this is written by a 30-someting autistic russian tumblrina who still has a list of what ships trigger her so don't take this too seriously.)
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Yeah, and you can also make the muscles bigger... Imagine the outrage if we could do that to her coconuts as well.
Sexist Male Nerd Power Crowd - finally, I have an idea for a tatoo.

Several passages of her complaining about the unlockable bikinis... Except she never wear those at the missions, only at home where she has a pool... How dare women wear what they want!
As for the wetsuits, Anniversary one is directly based on TR2, Underworld's drysuit is realistic and practical and I don't see how her sexy wetsuit is less acceptable than the one she wears in AOD.
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The dress in question is based on Angelina's dress. Guess somebody shoud tell her she's being misogynistic and oppressive.
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But next where she goes competely nuts.
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LOOK AT ALL THAT FCKING BOOBSHOW, LARABOOT, YOU WHORE
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Reboot's version actually is baggier and has more collar, WTF she's on about???

There's definitely a point to be made about Crystal/Eidos hypocrisy, particularly when it comes to the reboot outfits and realism. In 2013's game Lara's tank top is tiny and barely protective and she's visibly freezing in it, yet it never occurs to her to pick up a jacket from one of the dudes she murdered? Shorts are sexist misogyny, yet they still wanted her to look cute for the sexist nerd power crowd because, guess what, that's what sells, nobody wants to play in a flat fat boring shit like Shit of Woke Raider "Classic" skin! Why can't she wear shorts when she's literally in a jungle? Fucking fans did a better job.
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I don't even like the reboot but JFC not everything in it is sexism.
 
I can't figure out the complaint with the winter gear. She shows a bit more boob compared to classic Lara? Ok I guess. It's still a nicely designed outfit.


I can't find much on twitter about her thoughts on tomb raider specifically, just a cosplay she did in 2016. Not bad tbh.
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It's pretty hard to fuck up a Lara cosplay to be honest. If a lady can't rock cargo shorts and tank top with a ponytail, you're probably doing something wrong
 
These people will never be content until Lara wears a burka... Except, oh wait, that's cultural appropriation.
We can never win.
 
She's not bad so long as you forget her eyes are up there.
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Is this better?


example of classic fans being retarded

Why Crystal Lara's outfits are Problematic® (this is written by a 30-someting autistic russian tumblrina who still has a list of what ships trigger her so don't take this too seriously.)
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Yeah, and you can also make the muscles bigger... Imagine the outrage if we could do that to her coconuts as well.
Sexist Male Nerd Power Crowd - finally, I have an idea for a tatoo.

Several passages of her complaining about the unlockable bikinis... Except she never wear those at the missions, only at home where she has a pool... How dare women wear what they want!
As for the wetsuits, Anniversary one is directly based on TR2, Underworld's drysuit is realistic and practical and I don't see how her sexy wetsuit is less acceptable than the one she wears in AOD.
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The dress in question is based on Angelina's dress. Guess somebody shoud tell her she's being misogynistic and oppressive.
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But next where she goes competely nuts.
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LOOK AT ALL THAT FCKING BOOBSHOW, LARABOOT, YOU WHORE
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Reboot's version actually is baggier and has more collar, WTF she's on about???

There's definitely a point to be made about Crystal/Eidos hypocrisy, particularly when it comes to the reboot outfits and realism. In 2013's game Lara's tank top is tiny and barely protective and she's visibly freezing in it, yet it never occurs to her to pick up a jacket from one of the dudes she murdered? Shorts are sexist misogyny, yet they still wanted her to look cute for the sexist nerd power crowd because, guess what, that's what sells, nobody wants to play in a flat fat boring shit like Shit of Woke Raider "Classic" skin! Why can't she wear shorts when she's literally in a jungle? Fucking fans did a better job.
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I don't even like the reboot but JFC not everything in it is sexism.

Most classic fans seem to enjoy, or at least acknowledge, the sexier aspect of classic Lara, so it's weird seeing fans who straight up pretend it was never a thing until later games. It's like they're so caught up in feminist criticism that they need to deny the obvious to justify liking TR.
 
Here's something cool I stumbled across online : A Tomb Raider card game from the 90's.
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The basic idea is that you and other players construct a dungeon using the cards you have and you each choose a tomb raider to travel through the dungeon. Whoever successfully retrieves the treasure wins. For your choice of tomb raiders you had different versions of Lara(like Acrobat Lara, Scuba Diver Lara etc.), characters from the video games, and characters made just for the card game. I've never played it myself and I'm sure the concept of "make a dungeon with cards" has been done better by other tabletop games since then, but I think it's cool nonetheless.

Though I have to say the designs for the raider cards could be better. Most of the cards use art and screenshots from the games, but the raider cards use original art of varying quality and art styles. Plus, you can barely read the text on some of them.
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Did anyone actually try reading these cards before sending them out to print?

But I can forgive all this, because they made a card of the best Tomb Raider character:
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I can’t believe there are still people crying about Lara’s clothing/body. These tardwastes call everyone incels, but crumple at the hint of boob or a woman’s ankle.
They toned fake Lara down as much as possible, and they’re still crying.

How did the industry smugly stand up to Puritan attacks from the right, only to hastily put on the cultist robes of the puritanical politically religious left?
 
There's an annual TR vs Uncharted shitstorm going on twitter but, you know what, he ain't wrong 🍵
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In other news, Jolie is coming to destroy Laraboob's whole career.
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edit: Lolol, guys, come look at that
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This is one of the original members of Core Design. His sister was the voice of Lara in TR2-3.
 
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Most classic fans seem to enjoy, or at least acknowledge, the sexier aspect of classic Lara, so it's weird seeing fans who straight up pretend it was never a thing until later games. It's like they're so caught up in feminist criticism that they need to deny the obvious to justify liking TR.
classic fandom is somewhat divisive as a whole. I used to be heavily anti-reboot and sided with the critical feminist fans (because we had to deal with shit like this) who argued Lara's sexualization was a power image, but I slowly backpedalled when I started to realise how demeaning and regressive their rhetoric is. Especially, how they kept attacking the male nerds like that person I posted above...
It kinda annoys me how the only women that allowed to be sexy now are femme fatale caricature dominatrixes like Bayonetta because she "chooses" to show off her butt or whatever. I think more vulnerable characters like reboot Lara, Quiet and Miranda shoud be allowed as well.
 
classic fandom is somewhat divisive as a whole. I used to be heavily anti-reboot and sided with the critical feminist fans (because we had to deal with shit like this) who argued Lara's sexualization was a power image, but I slowly backpedalled when I started to realise how demeaning and regressive their rhetoric is. Especially, how they kept attacking the male nerds like that person I posted above...
Are you saying that you realized that Lara's sexualization was fine regardless of whether it was a "power image" or are you saying you realized Lara's power should not be determined by how sexy she is?

It kinda annoys me how the only women that allowed to be sexy now are femme fatale caricature dominatrixes like Bayonetta because she "chooses" to show off her butt or whatever. I think more vulnerable characters like reboot Lara, Quiet and Miranda shoud be allowed as well.
Yeah, I've noticed this too. A recent example would be the RE8 vamp lady. The same people who criticize sexualization and fanservice are fine with her being a really curvy chick in a tight dress just because they headcanon her as a domme or something.
 
Are you saying that you realized that Lara's sexualization was fine regardless of whether it was a "power image" or are you saying you realized Lara's power should not be determined by how sexy she is?
Or maybe that people should stop using arbitrary criteria to determine how "acceptable" a character's portrayal is because it ultimately just boils down to personal opinion anyway.
 
Are you saying that you realized that Lara's sexualization was fine regardless of whether it was a "power image" or are you saying you realized Lara's power should not be determined by how sexy she is?


Yeah, I've noticed this too. A recent example would be the RE8 vamp lady. The same people who criticize sexualization and fanservice are fine with her being a really curvy chick in a tight dress just because they headcanon her as a domme or something.
Or maybe that people should stop using arbitrary criteria to determine how "acceptable" a character's portrayal is because it ultimately just boils down to personal opinion anyway.
Let me tell you all how these kind of conversations go on in TR fandom:

"Hey, can we have shorts in the next update?"
"Oh, how about you just watch PORN, you incel!"
"Excuse you, I'm a woman and SHORTS ARE IMPORTANT FOR MY AGENCY AND AUTISM!!"
"Hey guys, I made a slutty mod"
"Wow, thanks"
"Not for you, you cis straight male scum, She's for the Gayz™ only🌈!!!"
"Hey guys, this is Square Enix, here's a collectible statue in shorts, preorder for 2000$"
"But can we have shorts in the game???"
"No."
 
Or maybe that people should stop using arbitrary criteria to determine how "acceptable" a character's portrayal is because it ultimately just boils down to personal opinion anyway.
The problem with SJWs is that they’re all on the Cluster-B spectrum, and if they’re not you sure as Hell can’t tell the difference. Their opinion isn’t just an opinion but Objective Metaphysical Goodness because the Cluster-B is God(dess). This is why their self-inserts and waifus do evil things and get praised for it, like Nu-Lara killing an entire army’s worth of men and starting the Apocalypse.
 
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