The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

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I Love Beef said:
Really? I thought it was Miracle on Evergreen Terrace back in Season 9. When I was younger, I thought that episode was but a fever dream. Now that I've been shown that this episode does exist, that's pretty much soured my perspective on The Simpsons forever. And everyone thinks Homer's Enemy is offensive. Try the episode where everyone puts the Simpsons into their personal debt and fucks them over around Christmas. I'm not surprised this was the season where the Treehouse of Horror revolves around the town getting nuked, because that's the only thing I feel should had happened after that episode.
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Am I the only one that doesnt hate that episode?

And not only not hate it, but find it better than Roasting On An Open Fire? People seem to carry around Principal and the Pauper and that episode as the two big stinkers of s9, but I've always liked Miracle. The OG Christmas Special was kind of boring even though it had a good story. I think the subversion of Miracle made it work, especially around the second half, that's when it gets really fucking funny.
 
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How do you go from that to sucking disney's dick in every segment?...oh right because the mouse bought you like a pimp and now you're nothing but a cheap whore to bring in the dinero *sigh*==
Panthera Rosea said:
Am I the only one that doesnt hate that episode?

And not only not hate it, but find it better than Roasting On An Open Fire? People seem to carry around Principal and the Pauper and that episode as the two big stinkers of s9, but I've always liked Miracle. The OG Christmas Special was kind of boring even though it had a good story. I think the subversion of Miracle made it work, especially around the second half, that's when it gets really fucking funny.
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Agreed, as much as I love christmas and the classic specials too many of them end with everyone all happy and together, and everything is gonna be alright. Maybe it's just because I'm a much more world weary and jaded person now but just once I'd like to see a Christmas special (aside horror movies) that end where everything isn't ok or on a happy ending, the only other animated Christmas special that ends on a bit of a downer is the pilot episode of moral Orel
 
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Strange Wilderness said:
Even the awful Jockey Elves episode had some actual laughs in it. At one point after the Jockeys are revealed to be evil elves Homer at one point says "I'll deal with those murderous trolls". It is the stupidest thing ever and has no place in the show but the way he says it with sincerity and anger is hilarious just because Castellaneta delivers it in a way that is completely serious. The story structure is terrible and the characters are Flanderized versions of themselves but the odds are pretty good that something funny is going to happen. The fact that these episodes have actually funny jokes puts them miles ahead of the more recent seasons where everything is flat and the jokes are explained two times over for the audience to understand.
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And the Jockey Elves episode look like a masterpiece compared to the Boys of Bummer.
 
Uncanny Valley said:
I always saw it as some garbage commentary on sports fans that got mangled.
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I would agree, but the writers at that point really hated Bart.

Hell, it seems that they've really hated Bart for a while seeing as he's a whiny simp now and always a total loser in the future episodes.
 
I Love Beef said:
Really? I thought it was Miracle on Evergreen Terrace back in Season 9. When I was younger, I thought that episode was but a fever dream. Now that I've been shown that this episode does exist, that's pretty much soured my perspective on The Simpsons forever. And everyone thinks Homer's Enemy is offensive. Try the episode where everyone puts the Simpsons into their personal debt and fucks them over around Christmas. I'm not surprised this was the season where the Treehouse of Horror revolves around the town getting nuked, because that's the only thing I feel should had happened after that episode, and anything and everything awful that happens to Springfield doesn't even bother me considering everyone is essentially an asshole and deserves it.
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IIRC, Season 9 was a junction point for the show where there was a likely and possible chance that the Simpsons would actually get cancelled permanently. As we all know, Season 8 was when the best writers left the show and they exchanged leadership, but then when Season 9 came around, there was a real chance the show would die, so the producers and writers wanted to go out with a bang. Hence that season had an irritating amount of ridiculous plots which went against the show's grounded-in-reality narrative, as well as episodes that essentially destroyed major character developments. Also, Homer Simpson got the shit kicked out of him and nearly killed multiple times in that season, as the writers felt like the show was gonna die anyway, so who cares.

Here's some good examples:
  • The Principal and the Pauper: the infamous turning point and shark-jumping episode where Seymour Skinner's backstory is retconned.
  • The Cartridge Family: Homer gets a gun and shows recklessness for his family, such as casually shooting it at random and indoors (arguably an early Jerkass Homer moment).
  • Realty Bites: Marge becomes a realtor, and Homer wrecks Snake Jailbird's car into a house. This is what I was talking about when I mentioned Homer became the punching bag for getting hurt frequently in this season.
  • Miracle on Evergreen Terrace: a cringe-fest of the town turning against the Simpsons and stealing all of their possessions in a comical manner.
  • All Singing, All Dancing: a clip show with terrible ratings.
  • Bart Carny: the Simpsons getting kicked out of their own home by a pack of vagrants.
  • The Joy of Sect: the city of Springfield becomes brainwashed by a cult. This is also the de-facto origin of "Jerkass Homer."
  • Dumbbell Indemnity: Homer goes to jail for car theft and Moe destroys his own bar.
  • Lisa the Simpson: Lisa discovers that the male Simpsons suffer from a degenerative gene that causes them to become gradually stupid.
  • Simpson Tide: Homer joins the Navy, gets put in charge of a submarine, accidentally kills his commanding officer, and causes an international nuclear crisis.
  • The Trouble with Trillions: Homer gets arrested for tax fraud, becomes an FBI informant, snitches on Mr. Burns, but eventually aides him in a plot to smuggle a trillion dollars out of the US and into Cuba, where they flee and it's implied that when they get back to America that they'll bribe a jury.
  • Trash of the Titans: the epitome of Jerkass Homer where Homer lies to win an election which he wasn't qualified for, and causes the entire city of Springfield to become overrun with garbage to the point of the city needing relocating.
  • King of the Hill: Homer becomes a bodybuilder and scales the world's tallest mountain as a publicity stunt.
  • Lost Our Lisa: Lisa gets lost on her trip to a museum, and Homer goes out to find her and gets severely injured in the process such as having a fucking drawbridge close on his head.
  • Natural Born Kissers: Homer and Marge become exhibitionists who get turned on by having sex in public with the threat of being potentially attacked by onlookers (?). They lose their clothes and steal a hot air balloon and end up naked in the middle of a football game. Compare this summary to Golden Era episodes, and this sounds like some Family Guy shit right here.
These episodes all share common traits: absurd plots, lack of grounding in reality, retconning of characters, destruction, radical shifts in character traits, and the genesis of Homer's transition from being slow and ill-tempered to just into being sadistic and mind-numbing stupid. If you watch all of these episodes back to back, you definitely get the idea the writers were thinking, "Fuck it: I doubt we'll get to Season 10, so let's just shit on everything."

And it only got worse from here...
 
Panthera Rosea said:
Fuck you, this was kino.
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Ruin said:
Yea I don't really get how the Joys of Sect is unrealistic. Scientology which the Movementarians are a parody of exists in real life.
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Don't get me wrong, I still think it's one of the better episodes of the season and I really enjoyed it when I was younger, but it definitely has the genesis of Homer's new "Jerkass Homer" persona where he's straight up malicious and retarded. I think any of my grievances towards this episode are less about the absurd plot and more about the tonal shift in Homer's character.
 
Michael Jacks0n said:
Don't get me wrong, I still think it's one of the better episodes of the season and I really enjoyed it when I was younger, but it definitely has the genesis of Homer's new "Jerkass Homer" persona where he's straight up malicious and retarded. I think any of my grievances towards this episode are less about the absurd plot and more about the tonal shift in Homer's character.
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Homer wasn't an asshole in this episode. He was dumbed down in some ways, but I don't really think anything he did was malicious.

I see little to no difference within Homer chasing that dog after the Guy Incognito gag in Fear of Flying to Homer being inattentive when getting brainwashed to be in the cult in that episode.
 
Michael Jacks0n said:
Season 9:
  • The Principal and the Pauper: the infamous turning point and shark-jumping episode where Seymour Skinner's backstory is retconned.
  • Lisa the Simpson: Lisa discovers that the male Simpsons suffer from a degenerative gene that causes them to become gradually stupid.
  • Simpson Tide: Homer joins the Navy, gets put in charge of a submarine, accidentally kills his commanding officer, and causes an international nuclear crisis.
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All of these episodes were holdovers from previous seasons (Simpson Tide was produced during Season 7, mind you), and I doubt anyone would've liked these episodes anymore if they aired in their respective seasons. Still, Simpsons had more ridiculous moments pre-Season 9, like Itchy & Scratchy Land, where the Simpsons have to escape an island of killer Itchy & Scratchy animatronics. As I've said before, even "Classic" Simpsons pre-Season 9 wasn't all that squeaky clean.
 
I Love Beef said:
Really? I thought it was Miracle on Evergreen Terrace back in Season 9. When I was younger, I thought that episode was but a fever dream. Now that I've been shown that this episode does exist, that's pretty much soured my perspective on The Simpsons forever. And everyone thinks Homer's Enemy is offensive. Try the episode where everyone puts the Simpsons into their personal debt and fucks them over around Christmas. I'm not surprised this was the season where the Treehouse of Horror revolves around the town getting nuked, because that's the only thing I feel should had happened after that episode, and anything and everything awful that happens to Springfield doesn't even bother me considering everyone is essentially an asshole and deserves it.
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i've heard of a few people liking or at least tolerating the season 9 christmas episode, even if it's objectively kinda shitty whereas even scully simps seem to dislike the maude episode. and while it's still slightly divisive, i think homer's enemy is absolutely classic and most people seem to think that way now too. granted it completely shattered some of the show's core principles, but as an entirely self-contained episode it's fucking great
 
Why does it sound like they phoned in this episode? I haven't watched majority of the newer Simpsons episodes but I don't recall the voice acting being this bad.
 
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