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Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
But...but our fangirl lusts and pairing crazes are purer and blah, blah, blah.
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Watching them trying to justify their fetishizing of men is hilarious

That’s called “queer-baiting” — the practice of implying that a character isn’t straight,
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No it's called flirting, people flirt with each other a lot, it's just no one flirts with you because you're the sort whose flicking her bean at bucky getting bucked.

We live in a world where it’s possible for Captain America to become part of Hydra
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Everyone hated that.

It’s easier to just not take these parts of Marvel fandom seriously, and the reason it’s so easy to dismiss them is because the people who participate in these fandoms already do feel shame about their desires. If you’re a teenage girl, for example, then you’re already told that it’s disgusting and shameful for you to feel any sexual desire at all. If you have crushes on people who are the same gender as you, that shame only intensifies. Imagine how amazing it would be if superheroes said otherwise.
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I'd most likely try and move out of Saudi Arabia ASAP instead. I really don't get these people who look for fictional characters for a stamp of approval.
 
I love how it's never a f/f pair or bisexual characters they beg for. Try as they might, their yaoitard roots still shine through.
 
Android raptor said:
Almost forgot about that! Still it seems like they whine for gay boys more often than they do for lesbians.
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Well, most of them are straight women, including the ones who claim to be demisexual sparklegender aromantics. No real difference between them and straight guys who want to watch hot lesbians make out. Most of the f/f stuff seems to tend to "girl power! we don't need no man" stuff rather than the stuff they get off on.
 
neverendingmidi said:
Well, most of them are straight women, including the ones who claim to be demisexual sparklegender aromantics. No real difference between them and straight guys who want to watch hot lesbians make out. Most of the f/f stuff seems to tend to "girl power! we don't need no man" stuff rather than the stuff they get off on.
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From what I've seen, it's about a fifty-fifty split. There's a weird overlap between yaoi and yuri fangirls, and they're also by far the largest creators of both kinds of works. When guys create porno works, they tend to skip straight to the fucking.

Either way, it's annoying as shit. Creators should never surrender their integrity to the whims of fantards, and any who do -- Anthony Burch and the Framed Sarkeesian Tweet come to mind -- never created anything meaningful to begin with.
 
Between celebrity gossip and fantard rants about making canon fanbased yaoi couples feels like the site is a devianart/tumblr offshoot that just learned to use 'big words' from college.
 
MiloWuCollusion said:
Between celebrity gossip and fantard rants about making canon fanbased yaoi couples feels like the site is a devianart/tumblr offshoot that just learned to use 'big words' from college.
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I was hoping they'd grow up a bit and take a more mature view on it all. Oddly, these seem to be the ones that don't make any art or tell stories (or at least commission stuff). Maybe that's why they have to demand so much from others.
 
*Asterisk* said:
Either way, it's annoying as shit. Creators should never surrender their integrity to the whims of fantards, and any who do -- Anthony Burch and the Framed Sarkeesian Tweet come to mind -- never created anything meaningful to begin with.
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Fan pandering is sort of a tightrope. Throwing in the occasional nod to the fans is one thing, but once you give in to the temptation to take the easy route and just do that shit all the time, it can kill a franchise.
 
AnOminous said:
Fan pandering is sort of a tightrope. Throwing in the occasional nod to the fans is one thing, but once you give in to the temptation to take the easy route and just do that shit all the time, it can kill a franchise.
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See Die Another Day vs SkyFall,

SkyFall's fanwankery was really subtle and it works. Die Another Day's was like a brick to the face.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
But...but our fangirl lusts and pairing crazes are purer and blah, blah, blah.
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Since the rise of fandoms like Osomastu-san and trans gay uwu headcanons, fangirls being pure is a myth.

neverendingmidi said:
Well, most of them are straight women, including the ones who claim to be demisexual sparklegender aromantics. No real difference between them and straight guys who want to watch hot lesbians make out. Most of the f/f stuff seems to tend to "girl power! we don't need no man" stuff rather than the stuff they get off on.
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Or to shove into "straight white male" fans faces
"ALL YOUR UR FAVES ARE LESBIANS SUCK IT NECKBEARDS"
 
Whan you care so much about fictional stories and characters, it's not normal and healthy. "Representation" in movies is not the most important thing ever. It's a sign you care more about fiction than reality. People are really exaggerating role of media in our lives recently and with rise of internet they only try to persuade creators what to do because "consumers want that and they give you money, you have to listen us because if you are not you are dick". They act like spoiled kids.
Any character is going to be 100% like you, because every person is different. If your self worth is connected to identify so much with fictional beings, please, go to psychologist or something, not demand everybody to do what you want them to do only to make you feel "safe".
Fictional worlds are fun and wonderful and they can make people feel better or like they take part in exciting adventure or inspire crativity in others. But it's only a part of real life.

And I say it as somebody who gonna work in media.
 
I know someone that just started writing at The Mary Sue, and she's quickly sliding down that SJW lolcow path.

How do I help her before it's too late?
 
Emperor Julian said:
http://www.themarysue.com/independence-day-resurgence-review/#spoiler

The review of ID4 is funny because the cast is diverse as fuck and they still hated it. In fact they're annoyed the gay couple arnt gay enough, apparently they didnt get the memo that watching two out of shape men in their early fifties make out isnt what people signed up for when they bought the ticket.
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And if they carried purses, did the limp-wristed waving fingers thing, dressed in really girly clothes with lots of pink, wore noticeable make-up, and anything else I can think of (assuming they didn't already do all of these things already), then they'd be pissed that they were "too" gay. The line between what they want and what's too much or too little is ridiculously fine. There is no pleasing them.
 
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