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Has anyone been to a LGS with a well-adjusted owner? I stopped going to the one here because he was such an asshole. He would get annoyed when you interrupted his MTG:O matches to buy product. HOW DARE PEOPLE PATRONIZE HIS BUSINESS AND GIVE HIM MONEY

edit: goddamn emoji, I'm talking about MTG online
 
Has anyone been to a LGS with a well-adjusted owner? I stopped going to the one here because he was such an asshole. He would get annoyed when you interrupted his MTG:O matches to buy product. HOW DARE PEOPLE PATRONIZE HIS BUSINESS AND GIVE HIM MONEY

edit: goddamn emoji, I'm talking about MTG online
My LGS shopkeep is pretty rad. She adjusted pack prices so with tax they come to 4 bucks even, she sold me a 17 dollar box for 10 for being new to the place, and she lets people borrow basic lands from the counter. Honestly my LGS has been pretty great, but I think that its in part that our D&D, PF, and MTG communities police themselves better than most. I find that a lot of lulsy communities like Melee and MTG become so bad in part because they're afraid to turn even really vile community members away, afraid that doing so will stifle growth/the communities survival.
 

That reminded me of that one picture posted on the MTG subreddit of an LGS bathroom with sticks of deodorant, and a paper that says to take one for free if needed.

Speaking of which, Magic Online has always been known for players getting angry in chat, probably because they can't say those things in real-life tournaments, unless you want to be slapped with penalties. The SaltyLosers Twitter page has some examples of such, for those of you who are interested.
 
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Has anyone been to a LGS with a well-adjusted owner? I stopped going to the one here because he was such an asshole. He would get annoyed when you interrupted his MTG:O matches to buy product. HOW DARE PEOPLE PATRONIZE HIS BUSINESS AND GIVE HIM MONEY

edit: goddamn emoji, I'm talking about MTG online

One, but he was a family man. Not sure about the other one that's newish up north. There was one that up and disappeared while keeping his store running for two months. No one got paid so they left. I don't even remember if they bothered to lock the doors when they did. No one misses the location either.

There's another guys who's store was bought out, he would severely undercut buying cards from people. We're talking EB Games level's here if not worse.


That reminded me of that one picture posted on the MTG subreddit of an LGS bathroom with sticks of deodorant, and a paper that says to take one for free if needed.

Speaking of which, Magic Online has always been known for players getting angry in chat, probably because they can't say those things in real-life tournaments, unless you want to be slapped with penalties. The SaltyLosers Twitter page has some examples of such, for those of you who are interested.

You don't want to know what hung on the door to the bathroom of this one LGS here. I just held it in until it was time to leave and went and use one of the bars bathrooms down the street.
 
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The absolute state of MTG, can't handle any banter, better ban active players. Don't worry, they'll be replaced by non-toxic players any second now.... annyyyy second. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/8alw3f/opponent_told_me_to_go_kill_myself_last_fnm/ (https://archive.fo/qS61M)
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The absolute state of MTG, can't handle any banter, better ban active players. Don't worry, they'll be replaced by non-toxic players any second now.... annyyyy second. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/8alw3f/opponent_told_me_to_go_kill_myself_last_fnm/ (https://archive.fo/qS61M)
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What? Do they only have one LGS? What sort of "outbursts" are they talking about? Just being "salty" when they lose? So what? Who doesn't get upset when they lose in a competitive game? If they don't like it, find another bloody hobby. MtG obviously isn't for them. Maybe take up knitting. I swear, I should bring my old Draw Go deck, update it and play against these people, see how calm they can be after that.
 
What? Do they only have one LGS? What sort of "outbursts" are they talking about? Just being "salty" when they lose? So what? Who doesn't get upset when they lose in a competitive game? If they don't like it, find another bloody hobby. MtG obviously isn't for them. Maybe take up knitting. I swear, I should bring my old Draw Go deck, update it and play against these people, see how calm they can be after that.

If you want people to rage in the modern format you want to play Lantern Control. That shit's infuriating to fight.

"Oh, you need that top card of your deck to hurt me.... put it in your graveyard" x40+
 
The absolute state of MTG, can't handle any banter, better ban active players. Don't worry, they'll be replaced by non-toxic players any second now.... annyyyy second. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/8alw3f/opponent_told_me_to_go_kill_myself_last_fnm/ (https://archive.fo/qS61M)
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What? Do they only have one LGS? What sort of "outbursts" are they talking about? Just being "salty" when they lose? So what? Who doesn't get upset when they lose in a competitive game? If they don't like it, find another bloody hobby. MtG obviously isn't for them. Maybe take up knitting. I swear, I should bring my old Draw Go deck, update it and play against these people, see how calm they can be after that.

If someone chimped out and told their opponent to kill themselves after a loss in my establishment (we have an informal commander league and do drafts but wotc won't work with us cuz we serve booze) I would ban them on sight.
 
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If you want people to rage in the modern format you want to play Lantern Control. That shit's infuriating to fight.

"Oh, you need that top card of your deck to hurt me.... put it in your graveyard" x40+

I'm an old Legacy player lol

If someone chimped out and told their opponent to kill themselves after a loss in my establishment (we have an informal commander league and do drafts) I would ban them on sight.

If they said that yes, I think they're exaggerating things. It's one thing to say the guy get's upset when they lose, it's another to say he wants you to kill yourself. MtG isn't a game of Call of Duty. Like that shouldn't even be discussed on Reddit. simple ban and forget. Unless the guy is Chris 2.0 then by all means discuss.
 
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I'm an old Legacy player lol

I play legacy once in a bit as well, mostly modern though even though I got duals and such. Mostly been play Czech pile when I do play legacy here lately, nailing people with Hymn to Tourach on turn 2 and 3 feels good.
 
Let's get back on to shitting on the worst parts of this community. There's a lot of well-deserved bans, but there's a good chunk of shitty ones that are made for the sake of saving face and general league-based bs. Name examples my guys.

Edit: Shitting on the management is still within the sphere of the thread right?
 
Let's get back on to shitting on the worst parts of this community. There's a lot of well-deserved bans, but there's a good chunk of shitty ones that are made for the sake of saving face and general league-based bs. Name examples my guys.

Edit: Shitting on the management is still within the sphere of the thread right?

You mean like store owners or the company? Both fuck up spectacularly so why not laugh at them? The whole Judge getting banned in the East coast of Canada was one such ban to save face because there's no way you wouldn't know the tranny involved was not a guy.
Also, least we not forget Frances, Boogie2988's "character"
Saving grace of this is that a lot more people started to record raging players, not just at MtG games, but even Yugioh.

Angry MtG:O player
Kid raging about the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNeyEHUXZOo
Yes, women play the game too and yes, they do rage.
Not Magic related, but Yugioh related. I think people here will get a kick out of this.

I think this is a pretty good video show casing what the game is like to other people who play it.
Cringy webseries on MtG and stores, but I have seen many people like this when they want packs
 
Let's get back on to shitting on the worst parts of this community. There's a lot of well-deserved bans, but there's a good chunk of shitty ones that are made for the sake of saving face and general league-based bs. Name examples my guys.

Edit: Shitting on the management is still within the sphere of the thread right?

Zach Jesse is still the most controversial one in my opinion. Essentially he was convicted of rape, got out of jail and was in the process of trying to move past it. It all came to a head when he won a major tournament and one of his competitors got salty and outed his criminal record.

A large portion of the community bandwagoned against him (before sjws in magic were really a thing) and wizards banned him as a result. It was really fascinating because it seemed like the guy was reformed. The mental backflipping the left did to justify it was also amazing at the time considering players with drug felonies were allowed to play and weren't targeted.
 
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dude raped someone, man.

Which he served time for. The ban came years after he was released (a decade I believe). Bradley Manning is a traitor to the United States but no one questions why he's not treated as such. This isn't like the guy is a repeat offender.
 
Which he served time for. The ban came years after he was released (a decade I believe). Bradley Manning is a traitor to the United States but no one questions why he's not treated as such. This isn't like the guy is a repeat offender.

Right, but you know how people generally get a pretty bad impression of "rapists", even when they're not actively raping at the moment? There's actually very little mental backflipping that needs to be factored into why the general public is going to respond to that negatively.
 
Right, but you know how people generally get a pretty bad impression of "rapists", even when they're not actively raping at the moment? There's actually very little mental backflipping that needs to be factored into why the general public is going to respond to that negatively.

Only people who really responded negatively were the people who had no interest in the game. Quite a number of the actual players were supported about bringing him back in.
 
Only people who really responded negatively were the people who had no interest in the game. Quite a number of the actual players were supported about bringing him back in.

So explain the mental backflipping to me. I realize yo didn't say that specifically but you seem to be on the same train of thought.
 
So explain the mental backflipping to me. I realize yo didn't say that specifically but you seem to be on the same train of thought.

No, I didn't say such a thing you are correct. However, do you think someone who spent three years in jail, isn't a repeat offender and had been a free man for a decade should be targeted?

@Blagher is correct, there were (and still are) worse players playing the game. Most of the lifetime bans alone come from people who actually commit a crime while at a tournament. From cheating (against the rules but not an actual crime) to fraud and even assault. Though one person did get a ban several years ago for stating they would rape someone at WotC, but I don't see them on the banned list so that event probably never happened as even older bans are still listed.

Peter “PRT” Szigeti
The “Villain” Magic the Gathering needed, but didn’t want.

One of the more notorious players back in the early 2000’s, Peter was known to be one of the more over the top players in the tournament scene, always trying to one up himself in his antics to get the attention he seemed to crave in the Magic the Gathering scene including dressing up in tournaments (one such tournament he wore a “pimp suit”).
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Getting rank 1 in a 2000 Team Limited game at the Grand Prix and 7th and 4th place the next following years and winning $6370 over the course of three years, may have gone to his head.
I am really like this, and it is a show,
Szigeti said in an interview with Wizards of the Coast,
It's easy for me to be outlandish and out of control. But I'm not a bad person or a bad guy, I think. People want to see how far I will go. I think people read the Sideboard coverage not just to see how the cards interact, but how the people interact. They like to see a show, that's more entertaining. And that's the hard part of being me. You have to constantly top yourself. There will be a point where I can't top myself,

One of the things he’s known for is topdecking a card he needed to win a match (Searing Flesh), wiping his ass with it and slamming it down on the table. A judge would then hand a loss over to Peter sending him down to 57th place in the tournament and his first ban from the game (an article on WotC he stated he would never do anything that would get him a DCI ban, I guess that wasn’t the case). Before this he was known as a prankster and someone who take jabs at their opponent during a game (something WotC frown’s on and will get you a loss automatically). Why did he do such things? At the time he wanted the game to be more competitive and more accessible for a wider audience, think what esports are today, he wanted the game to be like that, back then Magic’s shoutcaster alone could bore the paint off a wall with their commentary.

His final ban, that is a ban until 2039 (a lifetime ban) came when he shoved someone when they bumped into him at a tournament. The ban was listed as “unsportsmanlike conduct” in 2010, he would pass away in 2011. At least that’s what many people say, but those didn’t like the guy say they would only believe that if they saw the corpse for themselves.

A brief wiki article on the man.
https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Peter_Szigeti
A article/ interview with the man.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/event-coverage/public-enemy-number-one-2002-05-03

Friends talking about how they met the guy.
http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/...lion_Dollar_Magic_The_Gathering_Pro_Tour.html
Stories from players and websites.
https://mixedknuts.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/ptr-stories-vol-1/
http://www.gatheringmagic.com/szigeti-lifetime-ban/
http://www.starcitygames.com/articl...ise-a-Villain--Wizards-and-Peter-Szigeti.html
 
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