The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

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There's another explanation for why there were water pipes leading into the room. When people die like that they vomit, shit, bleed. You wash it with water and it goes down the large drains, which explains their existence as well.
Then why don't they exist in the other gas chambers? There's pictures of those available.
I have no idea if those pipes were abnormally large for that era, which I think is what you are alleging. I'm not even convinced they are regular water pipes, they might be heat/ventilation of some kind, and I'm not convinced that they are coming out of the gas chamber. You are?
You don't have basic plumbing knowledge as an adult? What kind of heat or ventilation requires large pipes built for the incredible pressures those carry? Weird how you have no basic or working knowledge except to dismiss anything put before you.
 
Then why don't they exist in the other gas chambers? There's pictures of those available.

You don't have basic plumbing knowledge as an adult? What kind of heat or ventilation requires large pipes built for the incredible pressures those carry? Weird how you have no basic or working knowledge except to dismiss anything put before you.
What if they're not even regular water pipes but have some other purpose? What if they are not even connected to the gas chamber? Tall Man didn't verify these basic facts, and you don't care either, which is why you guys are dogshit at history.
 
I have no idea
I know.
When people die like that they vomit, shit, bleed. You wash it with water and it goes down the large drains, which explains their existence as well.
Good point you bring up, they would need to hose down the room since it would be full of bodily fluids and poison.
Drains would be great for that.

According to official holocaust propagandists those drains have always been closed
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Because if they weren't this drain right outside would just gas all the Nazi officers.
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You still haven't answered my question.

What are all the scary pipes for?
 
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After the WW2 with years of investigation in the western allied section, all of the captured prison/labor camps were determined not to have participated in this so called "Final Solution". It was only in Poland with the prison/labor and transit camps were there was no physical investigations for over forty years that it was deemed that they were involved in a German plot for mass extermination. Transit camps such as Treblinka camp 2 conveniently have all sorts of stone monuments over them and Rabbi's citing religious reasons that refuse to allow any full scale archeological work. They're going to keep beating this dead, petrified horse for as long as they can.
 
After the WW2 with years of investigation in the western allied section, all of the captured prison/labor camps were determined not to have participated in this so called "Final Solution". It was only in Poland with the prison/labor and transit camps were there was no physical investigations for over forty years that it was deemed that they were involved in a German plot for mass extermination. Transit camps such as Treblinka camp 2 conveniently have all sorts of stone monuments over them and Rabbi's citing religious reasons that refuse to allow any full scale archeological work. They're going to keep beating this dead, petrified horse for as long as they can.
I've found that most people genuinely believe that American/British forces liberated the camps too. Without realizing they are all in Poland and would have thusly been liberated only by the Red Army.
 
I know.

Good point you bring up, they would need to hose down the room since it would be full of bodily fluids and poison.
Drains would be great for that.

According to official holocaust propagandists those drains have always been closed
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Because if they weren't this drain right outside would just gas all the Nazi officers.
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You still haven't answered my question.

What are all the scary pipes for?
Ah, I thought they were real since Mattogno made them a big part of his thesis. In any case can you provide sources for some of your assertions, eg that the pipes are ostensibly regular water pipes and that they're even adjacent to the supposed gas chamber? I hope you see how such facts are important, like if they're not adjacent or even connected but from some other part of the building with some other purpose everything you've been arguing is bunk.
 
Ah, I thought they were real since Mattogno made them a big part of his thesis. In any case can you provide sources for some of your assertions, eg that the pipes are ostensibly regular water pipes and that they're even adjacent to the supposed gas chamber? I hope you see how such facts are important, like if they're not adjacent or even connected but from some other part of the building with some other purpose everything you've been arguing is bunk.
I asked you what are the pipes for?
You just asking me "what the pipes are for" is not answering my question.

I am a very patient guy so I will give a mentally challenged person like you gladly a helping hand

Here is one of the very first films holocaust propagandists have produced.


Funny they didn't show the poison chutes?
According to holocaust propagandists of the time these pipes pumped poison gas into the gas chamber and evacuated the poison gas from the gas chamber. There are even two buttons one for pumping gas into the gas chamber and one to evacuate gas from the gas chamber.

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In yellow is the path a Jew would have taken all the way to the oven.

The Engineer's Room is where those pipes are
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Here is the peephole from inside the Gas Chamber. The upper square opening on the west wall.
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Here is the peephole from the Engineer's Room. (I saw the post you deleted Chugger, you already found the location of the pipes)

What are all the scary pipes for?
 
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In yellow is the path a Jew would have taken all the way to the oven.
Why do they contradict themselves about this building? They said they had 4 gas chambers for delousing and a fifth secret chamber that was used for killing. This plan shows none of that. I thought they had definitive evidence of how these facilities were used. Or did they invent and change their story repeatedly to backfill a narrative that was created first?
 
Why do they contradict themselves about this building? They said they had 4 gas chambers for delousing and a fifth secret chamber that was used for killing. This plan shows none of that. I thought they had definitive evidence of how these facilities were used. Or did they invent and change their story repeatedly to backfill a narrative that was created first?
The delousing chambers are marked with a "1" on the floor plan. There are 5 of them, and a sixth identical room that now has wooden doors and was converted into a toilet.

They are tiny rooms next to each other at the south most entrance to the building.
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Funny enough, the steel doors that are found installed in the shower room can't be closed.
The entrance door is installed so slanted that it is permanently stuck open.
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The exit is not stuck to the floor but it's impossible to close it.
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The locking latches of the frame make it impossible to close the door.
Sloppy Job OSS

There obviously used to be 6 delousing chambers and the OSS took off the steel doors of the east most and put them on the shower room.
It's important to remember this is the first "gas chamber" that got "discovered".
And that the OSS spread the rumor of gas coming out of the showerheads amongst the prisoners of the Germans long before the end of the war, so they tried to recreate the already existing rumor here and failed.

Or did they invent and change their story repeatedly to backfill a narrative that was created first?
The problem was that they had to combine the existing witness testimony, which just parroted the rumors they themselves spread among the prisoners, with the evidence found in the camps. However, it wasn't possible to make the buildings fit those rumors. Gas being piped into a fake shower room via sophisticated industrial means is a lot harder to fake than dropping some Zyklon B pellets on the floor.
 
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There obviously used to be 6 delousing chambers and the OSS took off the steel doors of the east most and put them on the shower room.
It's important to remember this is the first "gas chamber" that got "discovered".
I got curious and looked for photographs showing the camp when it was freed just to compare. First thing I noticed was how out of order and unorganized it was, probably on purpose. Can't let people make up their own ideas about what you are showing them. The second was the outright lies they tell. Pile of bodies in a morgue became gassing victims. Despite also saying there was no one killed there in that method.
The problem was that they had to combine the existing witness testimony, which just parroted the rumors they themselves spread among the prisoners, with the evidence found in the camps. However, it wasn't possible to make the buildings fit those rumors. Gas being piped into a fake shower room via sophisticated industrial means is a lot harder to fake than dropping some Zyklon B pellets on the floor.
As always the strategy is to muddy the waters, tell contradicting stories with zero evidence but obviously forged documents and "eyewitness testimony". Then when it gets called out fall back to "that just means we are actively pursuing the truth" instead of using it to control consensus and keep the overton window from moving toward the truth.

How many idiots do we suffer who cycle in, posting the exact same information, get called idiots till they leave, then someone shows up to do the exact same thing? It's always one at a time because they can't keep their own stories straight and forcing two idiots would obviously blow the game wide open.
 
What are all the scary pipes for?
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Mattogno says they go up into the attic.
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So they're not mere props, they go through the wall lol

I should remind you that Carlo Mattogno is a full on Holocaust denier who believes like 300,000 Jews died in ww2, mostly by disease, and if they were killed it was mostly justifiable. He thoroughly inspected the premises and mentions nothing about fake pipes. This is retarded but we can go on if you want. We have a detailed book to look through now. https://holocausthandbooks.com/book/the-dachau-gas-chamber/
 
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Mattogno says they go up into the attic.
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So they're not mere props, they go through the wall lol

I should remind you that Carlo Mattogno is a full on Holocaust denier who believes like 300,000 Jews died, mostly by disease. He thoroughly inspected the premises and mentions nothing about fake pipes. This is retarded but we can go on if you want. We have a detailed book to look through now. https://holocausthandbooks.com/book/the-dachau-gas-chamber/
Very cool post chugger, do you think this is an answer to my question?

What are all the scary pipes for?
 
Very cool post chugger, do you think this is an answer to my question?

What are all the scary pipes for?
I don't know. I now have a book which I think is the most detailed examination of the facility available (Mattogno's Dachau book). I'll take a look for you. Right now I don't have the expertise or good enough photos. The one statement of yours that has been debunked is that it was just "pipe joints" stuck in the wall. You were brutally wrong here. I think the other thing you're going on is that the pipes are too big and also the drains are fake. They might be fake but we'll see what Mattogno has to say. It will probably take me a day or two to read through the book. In the meantime, out of curiosity, do you think it's strange that a denier (and self proclaimed architectural expert) thoroughly inspected the premises and didn't find anything peculiar about the pipes? Is that still your theory?

You are saying the pipes were clearly built by the allies and are proof of large scale deception (the hoax).
 
So they're not mere props, they go through the wall lol
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Just gonna leave out how they arent attached to anything? Disingenuous fuck.
I should remind you that Carlo Mattogno is a full on Holocaust denier who believes like 300,000 Jews died in ww2, mostly by disease, and if they were killed it was mostly justifiable. He thoroughly inspected the premises and mentions nothing about fake pipes. This is retarded but we can go on if you want. We have a detailed book to look through now.
Who cares what anyone else says? Post your own evidence and stop using other people for your own ends. You do it all so very poorly and always make simple mistakes because you are a fucking idiot.
 
I don't know. I now have a book which I think is the most detailed examination of the facility available (Mattogno's Dachau book). I'll take a look for you. Right now I don't have the expertise or good enough photos. The one statement of yours that has been debunked is that it was just "pipe joints" stuck in the wall. You were brutally wrong here. I think the other thing you're going on is that the pipes are too big and also the drains are fake. They might be fake but we'll see what Mattogno has to say. It will probably take me a day or two to read through the book. In the meantime, out of curiosity, do you think it's strange that a denier (and self proclaimed architectural expert) thoroughly inspected the premises and didn't find anything peculiar about the pipes? Is that still your theory?

You are saying the pipes were clearly built by the allies and are proof of large scale deception (the hoax).
Keep going, you are doing great chugger.

Just find me the answer.
What are all the scary pipes for?
 
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Mattogno says they go up into the attic.
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So they're not mere props, they go through the wall lol

I should remind you that Carlo Mattogno is a full on Holocaust denier who believes like 300,000 Jews died in ww2, mostly by disease, and if they were killed it was mostly justifiable. He thoroughly inspected the premises and mentions nothing about fake pipes. This is retarded but we can go on if you want. We have a detailed book to look through now. https://holocausthandbooks.com/book/the-dachau-gas-chamber/
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Just gonna leave out how they arent attached to anything? Disingenuous fuck.

Who cares what anyone else says? Post your own evidence and stop using other people for your own ends. You do it all so very poorly and always make simple mistakes because you are a fucking idiot.
It's possible the pipe collapsed, which is understandable after 50 years. Or it may have been air vent pipe.

Just find me the answer.
What are all the scary pipes for?
I'm going to read through the Mattogno book to find out, so it may take a few days. Is that OK? In the meantime, since you have no trouble answering questions, if the pipes were clearly fake, why didn't Mattogno notice this? You think he's working for the Jews?
 
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