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cluelessly said:
Just read the new scanned versions.

It's interesting how the story is basically: Jay is awesome in every way and totally innocent in everything but gets manipulated by an evil villain who is also his brother into having to examine his actions, but instead of examining his actions (causing loads of destruction because he's mad and his ego is hurt, getting himself banned from the city), he places all the blame on the villain/his brother and decides his only option is to track him down and kill him. He's both the victim and the hero in his own story, with everyone else being the equivalent of NPCs (Nana is mentioned several times and never makes an appearance) and the villain being cast as blindly hateful for no reason other than just because. The most important thing to Jay seems to be his ego and self image, not defending or rescuing civilians or upholding the law or anything like that. I also feel like his avoidance in allowing the Jay character to develop passed his ego is a reflection on how Jay himself feels like he shouldn't have to change or work on any of his flaws.

Another thing I noticed is there's little explanation on how he finds out where to go. How did he know there was a giant space ship above Earth? Most superheroes have some kind of technology or scientist team to help them out, Jay just watches the news, which obviously wouldn't be very efficient. When he returned to Earth people seemed surprised to hear about the spaceship, so either he's implying only he knew about it (somehow), or it goes back to his shitty writing.

As I said before, no explanation as to where anyone's powers come from, which is especially weird since Jay and his brother are classed as human, but Jay is seen flying while not in his suit.

Also, his drawing looks like spaghetti and it's really irritating. There's no effort to stay on model or to keep consistent, and you can tell that it's not just because he can't draw, but because he's not trying. I'm sure he just quickly scribbles out each panel and decides they're good enough as they are on the first lazy try, instead of at LEAST putting in the effort to ensure all the limbs are consistent in their size and shape.

It's been said before but even Sonichu is drawn and written better than this.
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You touched on pretty much all the points here. I seriously want to know how/why jay is a powerpuff. Did he think it was cute and he thinks he's cute (like he describes himself in his dA description) therefore he should be one orrrrr did his mom hit the chemical X to hard when she was pregnant with him.
 
I think the 'HUD' 'first-person-views' in his comics speak a lot. He's just an insecure child that is lashing out wishes he could lash out at everyone who's ever looked at him funny. He's so mentally immature that he latched on to PPG because it's a simple, cute, fairly easy to understand 'universe' where he can unleash his abominations to 'have fun'. Basically like many fanfictioners and marysue-rs, he likes that the universe is already there for him to insert himself. Why he chose the PPG universe? Beats me, but an 'spectrum' answer could fit. Also with all the military babble he loves to throw around everywhere it's clear he thinks the military and armies and associated concepts are 'cool' but can't be arsed to open wikipedia to learn a thing or two. He just adds guns and flying powers and uses big numbers for the speed his character flies at, but he doesn't really understand much of it. In a cargo cultish kind of way, he keeps thinking that adding 'nuclear' to everything will make it cool. Sorry guy, that was in the early 50-60s.

In short, dude's 7 years old in his mind. He's basically building himself in his mind as a super-hero version of himself, which all of us have done, but most outgrow relatively quickly.

If he had grown up in the 80's this dude would've been all 'YO JOE!', He'd have enlisted as soon as possible, and flunked out as soon as he realized he would NOT get a jet pack and a laser rifle to fight against COBRA, then went back to live the rest of his life with his mom.


Also if my best artistic creation (because sadly that's what 'Dot' was) were destroyed for no reason I'd also carry the torch of that thing for a long while, not years, but a while.
 
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I present the Young Guardian as I plan to portray him in my page(s) in Legend of the Mythic Warrior. I know his face's supposed to be covered by armor (or something) but I wanted to include his skintone in this one.

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Coster said:
I present the Young Guardian as I plan to portray him in my page(s) in Legend of the Mythic Warrior. I know his face's supposed to be covered by armor (or something) but I wanted to include his skintone in this one.

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Still too talented. I envision a small daily strip where this endearing lil guy wanders a post-apocaliptic wasteland trying to bring back the true values of chivarly and honor, and of course fails. It'd be kind of like Zippy meets Peanuts.
 
Ron_Swanson said:
Still too talented. I envision a small daily strip where this endearing lil guy wanders a post-apocaliptic wasteland trying to bring back the true values of chivarly and honor, and of course fails. It'd be kind of like Zippy meets Peanuts.
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Congratulations, you've written Young Guardian as a likable character, a feat Jay himself will never himself accomplish.
 
Coster said:
Congratulations, you've written Young Guardian as a likable character, a feat Jay himself will never himself accomplish.
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your CUTE and HONEST I mean, endearing design helped, In between the scratchiness and the expression you've given him, that's not a terrible character design. It is much better than anything Jay could do, as well, but you have more merit, because art requires practice and devotion. Writing better than Jay is no big feat, It's like being more hygienic than CWC, we're all inherently better at it.

It's weird, supposedly you can't polish turds but Coster's design shows decent derivatives are possible. I'm all sorts of squirtle'd now so you'll forgive me the lack of a metaphor for that last part.
 
Coster said:
I present the Young Guardian as I plan to portray him in my page(s) in Legend of the Mythic Warrior. I know his face's supposed to be covered by armor (or something) but I wanted to include his skintone in this one.

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Haha I dig the crazy smile and the inverted cross on his chest. Really suits his whole fucked up personality :P
 
Ron_Swanson said:
your CUTE and HONEST I mean, endearing design helped, In between the scratchiness and the expression you've given him, that's not a terrible character design. It is much better than anything Jay could do, as well, but you have more merit, because art requires practice and devotion. Writing better than Jay is no big feat, It's like being more hygienic than CWC, we're all inherently better at it.

It's weird, supposedly you can't polish turds but Coster's design shows decent derivatives are possible. I'm all sorts of squirtle'd now so you'll forgive me the lack of a metaphor for that last part.
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The scratchiness was deliberate - after I had all of the base lines done, I went back over them and "etched" all over everything, also adding small, insignificant details like rings under his eyes, making his smile less of a static line, added all the detail to the hair, etc. The colors I just aimed for decent dull ones while working off of Goldie's references.

As for the design, I added more things to it to distance it from Craig McCracken's style, like basing the proportions off of Tim Schafer's work in Psychonauts (primarily Raz's)(also I made the color work with the detail to try and give it an "uncomfortable" feel), and made the design for his armor a bit more futuristic-looking with heavy influence from classic Megaman/the Robot Masters. I felt their cartoony design meshed well with what I was overall going for.

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Count groudon said:
Haha I dig the crazy smile and the inverted cross on his chest. Really suits his whole fucked up personality :P
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From what I could understand that cross is supposed to be a sword or something, so I tried to draw it like one.
 
Too bad Goldie doesn't hang out with cool kids like us - I'm sure he'd be thrilled about this instantly better design!

(Seriously Coster, I love it)
 
Coster said:
I present the Young Guardian as I plan to portray him in my page(s) in Legend of the Mythic Warrior. I know his face's supposed to be covered by armor (or something) but I wanted to include his skintone in this one.

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This is perfect omfg

I love your rough lines, especially on the hair :o
 
Coster said:
I present the Young Guardian as I plan to portray him in my page(s) in Legend of the Mythic Warrior. I know his face's supposed to be covered by armor (or something) but I wanted to include his skintone in this one.

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Something almost Psychonautsian about this design. If not Scribblenautsian. Well-done, Coster.

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You get a gold star.
 
Coster said:
I present the Young Guardian as I plan to portray him in my page(s) in Legend of the Mythic Warrior. I know his face's supposed to be covered by armor (or something) but I wanted to include his skintone in this one.

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Seriously awesome work. :)
 
Jay is truly a hero of epic proportions with a completely selfless motive to save the day.
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But I will use this as a reaction image from now on:

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Alright, after re-reading the comic scanned I have to say it definitely makes less sense. The parts that I filled in that I couldn't actually view made this far better. Not just in writing though, the artwork was also far better blurry.

Again, I feel the part where he lashes out at his brother for making everyone turn against him is a bit too specifically worded not to be passive aggressiveness. I feel that the urine maiden uses his comics to express his dismay and disgruntled thoughts he can't otherwise. Which is admittedly artistic, but also an unhealthy coping mechanism. Kind of like bugfucker?

The actual meaning behind the comic in it's entirety is kind of a fucking mystery to me, still. So little was explained. The fact he would exhaust nearly an entire page on murdering an innocent cat rather then explaining how the fuck his five y/o self-insert has radiation up the anus is just. Confusing.

But I think it's an important aspect to consider. Going above with using this as a coping mechanism, I think Jay wants to kill animals, but it's just one of the many things he can't due to being, you know, illegal. I honestly think he suffers from zoosadism judging by everything he's said on animals. It should also be noted this is part of the MacDonald Triad for sociopathy. If jaundice princess is also an arsonist and/or bedwetter, we might have something to worry about.

Of course, this is entirely speculation on my part, and I'm probably spreading the nettles thin, but it's interesting to muse on.

schiessen said:
It'll take a year or too though, he has many important knightly duties to attend too such as getting in his 4 wanking sessions every day and playing vidya
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Tid-bit of fact: he only discovered masturbation at 16.
 
Coster said:
I just wanted to quote this because I felt this has been the best derivative version of his name thus far.
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We need a list of every alternate Golden Knight name. Theres been so many I can't remember them all but Silver Serf, Bronze Knave, Tinfoil Twat, Copper Cunt, Iron Lung and of course The Jaundice Princess stick out in my mind as the ones that made me laugh the most.
 
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