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Dr. Geronimo said:
The only good part of Jessie is that it's the only other time we get to go to the top of Midgar. Jessie herself was cringe as all hell and I found her annoying.
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That whole sneaking into the house thing Cloud did was just tedious though. And he didn't even get any pizza, which makes the whole thing immeasurably worse. You'd think Jesse could have asked for a few slices for a friend that couldn't make it or something.
 
So I have finally got FF XVI ( I waited for a sale because fuck you Sony, I am not paying 80 euro for a game!) and it took me a while to get into the controls ( I played the demo when it came out and transfer my save files), but I figure out the contols pretty fast.
I am still at the start of the game.
 
Berrakh said:
I mean XV failed to be the promised savior as well
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The main difference is that SquareEnix shilled for that game hard, basically trying to declare it the second coming of FFXVII. And it blew back in their face. XVI never had that kind of shilling, and it just kind of landed with a thud.
 
Gravemind said:
People hate XVI?
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I don't think people hate it, but there's a fair amount of people that played it (myself included) that felt like it wasn't "complete" in terms of story, combat, or fun. It's very flash but not all that deep or memorable.

It's defiantly not enough to redefine Final Fantasy as a "cannot miss" series again, but it's a drastic step up over more recent attempts (FF 13/13-2/13-3 and FF 15).

If you go back to FFX as the last "very good" FF before FF16 (not counting 11 or 14 because MMO) - it's the first decent showing they've had in like 20 years.
 
Most of the hate XVI gets is because of how different it is. XV was also disliked for being different, but I feel it was more of a letdown to people because of all its wasted potential and the fact they rushed it.

It doesn’t help that both games have sad endings; I, for one, was expecting XVI’s to be happier after the total downer that was XV’s (no, I’m not taking Episode Ignis or the novel into account here). I know not everyone cares about whether an ending is happy or not as long as it’s satisfying, but for me, neither were, and many others feel the same. They didn’t completely sour either experience for me though. I like XV and XVI for what they are. Where they shine, they really shine, but they have pretty big flaws too.
 
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So far into FF XVI, I am enjoying myself very much.
I like Clive as a protagonist. Yes, he is moody, but he has his reason why he is that way. I also like that he has experience and is not a wet behind the ear guy.
The design of the world is so damn good, I love how it is really fantasy this time and not this steam punk bs we see so much.
The combat is fast and fun. It is not challanged at all ( i have not died once thus far) but it is more than "smash button".
It goes without saying, but it is a stunning looking game as well.
Overall, being only at level 21 and are leaving eastend or what ever that village is called, I like it.
 
The Fair Lady said:
XV was also disliked for being different,
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There were a lot of legitimate problems with XV, in terms of gameplay, world building, and storytelling; some of it was due to the game being rushed, some of it was due to the constant restarts in development and changes to the development team and overall vision, and some of it was intentional, as former director Hajime Tabata has made apparent every time he opens his mouth regarding the game (seriously, its like every time he tried to justify shit, he just made things worse, and XV is single handedly responsible for the man losing whatever goodwill he had left with the fanbase). SquareEnix eventually just abandoned the game and cancelled the remaining major DLCs, turning them into a novel instead, and I am almost certain that game ultimately lost money for SquareEnix and they just blamed their former western studios to cover it up.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
There were a lot of legitimate problems with XV, in terms of gameplay, world building, and storytelling; some of it was due to the game being rushed, some of it was due to the constant restarts in development and changes to the development team and overall vision, and some of it was intentional, as former director Hajime Tabata has made apparent every time he opens his mouth regarding the game (seriously, its like every time he tried to justify shit, he just made things worse, and XV is single handedly responsible for the man losing whatever goodwill he had left with the fanbase). SquareEnix eventually just abandoned the game and cancelled the remaining major DLCs, turning them into a novel instead, and I am almost certain that game ultimately lost money for SquareEnix and they just blamed their former western studios to cover it up.
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I'm aware, I'm not saying that was the only complaint people had or the only problem with the game, it had plenty of issues. What I am saying is that outside the "I don't like this because it's different" crowd, many were disappointed in general that they threw so much of what it could've been out the window and bungled its development on top of that. The remaining DLC getting cancelled was the final nail in XV's coffin, no one cares about the fix-it novel they made for the ending.
 
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The Fair Lady said:
Most of the hate XVI gets is because of how different it is. XV was also disliked for being different, but I feel it was more of a letdown to people because of all its wasted potential and the fact they rushed it.
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I think XVI gets hate not for being different, but for being bland, safe, and unfun at times. For me it felt too much like FFXIV in terms of the feel (the music, the setting, the focus on the primals, etc).

The story is all over the place and the game never really focuses on any of the allegedly meaningful relationships (outside of Cid, possibly). It feels like they wanted XVI to have a much longer story where you spent a lot more time with the characters (aka in FF Tactics or even XV) and get to know them a lot better and then just ran out of ideas and time skipped a second time. It feels short/rushed on the back half.

XV was disliked for being a huge mess but I find that people liked a lot of the ideas and characters in it, despite it being a huge mess.
 
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