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Why exactly are people so angry about a new taunt kill? I understand nerfing the range of it since it seemed to be higher than necessary but like who cares besides that?
 
Star Classic said:
Why exactly are people so angry about a new taunt kill? I understand nerfing the range of it since it seemed to be higher than necessary but like who cares besides that?
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It's a paid taunt, meaning a gameplay-enhancing item is locked behind a paywall (especially bad since it's ranged and gives Engi a tauntkill when he might not have one in his loadout). It's arguably minor, but it's a bad precedent.
 
Geter Priffin said:
thought I would raise some awareness that a few prominent tf2 creators and people are going to be hosting a bring back quickplay/fixcasual movement on the 26th. Alongside sending a letter to valve a petition will also be opened up to sign. There is a discord for the movement but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share it here but here is the twitter post

Edit I'm just gonna share it anyway: https://discord.gg/ZvvnAajT
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UPDATE: movement was moved back to the 27th and it seems valve releasing a shitty update has given this a bit of fire
 
Patrick Bait-man said:
KEK THE TEXAN TRICKSHOT GOT NERFED
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Edit: Previous range was 500 HU (same as Heavy's finger gun taunt). New range is 170 HU.
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Holy kek it got enough backlash that Valve reverted the nerf (and on a Saturday too).
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The worst part of the whole thing is that they could've just made the revolver a new engi weapon (wouldn't be too hard to balance, and at most they'd have to implement a reload animation) and given that the taunt kill. In the long run, skin sales (assuming it would be paintable), stranges, and killstreak kits would probably make more money than the amount they'll get for the taunt. Plus, implementing a new weapon would foster significant goodwill with the community, which would indirectly make them money.
 
ABE LINN COHN said:
The worst part of the whole thing is that they could've just made the revolver a new engi weapon (wouldn't be too hard to balance, and at most they'd have to implement a reload animation) and given that the taunt kill. In the long run, skin sales (assuming it would be paintable), stranges, and killstreak kits would probably make more money than the amount they'll get for the taunt. Plus, implementing a new weapon would foster significant goodwill with the community, which would indirectly make them money.
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the comical part is that official animation files for a revolver on engi are present but unused, so this gets funnier
 
ABE LINN COHN said:
The worst part of the whole thing is that they could've just made the revolver a new engi weapon (wouldn't be too hard to balance, and at most they'd have to implement a reload animation) and given that the taunt kill. In the long run, skin sales (assuming it would be paintable), stranges, and killstreak kits would probably make more money than the amount they'll get for the taunt. Plus, implementing a new weapon would foster significant goodwill with the community, which would indirectly make them money.
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piombo said:
the comical part is that official animation files for a revolver on engi are present but unused, so this gets funnier
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Valve truly is allergic to giving any actual change to TF2 at this point. A new Engineer revolver would have been universally loved, and long overdue. Engy only has 3 secondaries. Would take a day to balance, tops. Engy could use an upgrade in intermediate-range combat, while sacrificing the spammability of the stock pistol.

Very frustrating. I wonder whose call it is that base TF2 has been frozen in time since 2018.
 
See a lot of people say matchmaking is broken, I only join maps through the browser still.
Can anyone confirm it's worse than before the update? I wouldn't imagine it takes that long to connect to new maps the day after an update, right?
 
I was playing some of the new maps last night and they are awful. So awful it was actually making making me rage. Huge openings ON FIRST points entire teams can rush through, lasts with shitty chokes, invisible walls everywhere, and some of the most horrendous sight lines I have ever seen. I don 't want to hear fags bitch about sniper when they make maps with worse sightlines than wutville. Why does every mapper nowadays rely on invisible walls instead of just making structures/roofs that are higher than people can rocket/sticky jump to?
 
biglurker said:
I was playing some of the new maps last night and they are awful. So awful it was actually making making me rage. Huge openings ON FIRST points entire teams can rush through, lasts with shitty chokes, invisible walls everywhere, and some of the most horrendous sight lines I have ever seen. I don 't want to hear fags bitch about sniper when they make maps with worse sightlines than wutville. Why does every mapper nowadays rely on invisible walls instead of just making structures/roofs that are higher than people can rocket/sticky jump to?
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I played on the aquarium one, aquarius? I don't know the name but there was a giantic hole to drop down right out of spawn on blue, I of course joined on the last point but I have to assume the levels open up as you capture, but the map itself is fucking maze-like and I think all the medpacks are underwater and hard to find. Select queuing for the new maps is 10+ minutes from what I've heard, these maps will be abandoned by the entire community before August ends.
 
Hiphopopotamus said:
See a lot of people say matchmaking is broken, I only join maps through the browser still.
Can anyone confirm it's worse than before the update? I wouldn't imagine it takes that long to connect to new maps the day after an update, right?
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Its less so that one update breaks it, but the more maps that get added, the more dilluted the player base is. It progressively takes longer and longer to queue for individual maps with each passing year.

TF2's player counts are steadily declining. The playerbase simply cannot support 200+ maps year round.

Regardless of player count, it's just bad game design to have that many maps for the type of game TF2 is. Its impossible to learn them all. A lot of the newer maps have issues where no one knows what's going on, and you get chaotic games.

Its also restrictive for new mapmakers. They have to design their maps for retard monkeys that don't know the map, because there will be no time to learn it.

Imagine if Upward was released today. You'd get half the server taking a wrong turn and running to last. It would be a mess.
 
Geter Priffin said:
thought I would raise some awareness that a few prominent tf2 creators and people are going to be hosting a bring back quickplay/fixcasual movement on the 26th. Alongside sending a letter to valve a petition will also be opened up to sign. There is a discord for the movement but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share it here but here is the twitter post

Edit I'm just gonna share it anyway: https://discord.gg/ZvvnAajT
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The BBQP (Bring Back Quickplay) discord is barely 240 members in size and features the following staff members:
  • ErrorSharkTF2, a tranny tf2 sloptuber
  • Zesty Jesus, the lonely virgin geologist rockfucker with Jeffery Dahmer glasses and a dumbass haircut
  • Megascatterbomb, the New Zealander who made that bot kicker thing that I lost track of and don't know if he ever finished it
  • BigBoiGames
  • SimplyKat aka Katamiphi aka the filipino faggot who founded that Mann Magazine shit on Twitter.
Some of their "staff" are literal nobodies that I don't think anyone would know, such as:
  • Michael
  • SealShpeeDaSweggy
  • TF2 Nexus
  • Hamm Mann
  • Alex (Slippi)
The people in the discord don't seem to pander to the troonporium, likely because Zesty is involved in this [stupid waste of time] project, which means that the troonporium trannies likely won't touch the BBQP discord with a 20 foot pole.

Also, obligatory KF mention in the discord:
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Shoresy said:
The people in the discord don't seem to pander to the troonporium, likely because Zesty is involved in this [stupid waste of time] project, which means that the troonporium trannies likely won't touch the BBQP discord with a 20 foot pole.
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here's a small correction, zesty's actually not involved and he's actively distancing himself from it since he knows that these people are retarded apes!
and let's put a second addendum that the reason why nobody's that involved with this group is coz they have no fucking idea with what they want to do basically
 
Shoresy said:
he still staff tho
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that he is, and i still confirm what i've had said and what i've had seen, they're annoying retards that have no idea on what they want to do and he wants to detach himself from this entire thing

a public example that can be brought up is during yesterday's stream
if you're eyeballing the discord i think that you can find people complaining that he's basically panning/dissing the entire concept of this petition live on stream
 
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