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Shocked to see people meme gnomes. I play in a NWN1 server and my favorite joke is threatening gnomes to toss them of cliffs

Off topic but the existence of tielfings/aasimer has been a blight on medieval fantasy. Every single shitter I've ever played with was le quirky, no fun, edgy, le hecken depressed, with MC syndrome.
I
FUCKING
HATE
TIEFLINGS/AASIMER

Dragonborn players are shitters too but not as bad a goat niggers
i am ok with 2e tieflings tbh. they are just there for a reason. they are not born from an infernal family, or a cultist mama. they are born because people fornicate in the lower planes. they are strictly multversal, because the sole reason for their existance is, having fun time in the abbys.
 
Off topic but the existence of tielfings/aasimer has been a blight on medieval fantasy. Every single shitter I've ever played with was le quirky, no fun, edgy, le hecken depressed, with MC syndrome.
I
FUCKING
HATE
TIEFLINGS/AASIMER
Tieflings were better when they were a Planescape thing and they included ALL planar hybrids, not just fiends, Haer'Dalis being one such teefs (hell he is literally from Sigil).
 
I
FUCKING
HATE
TIEFLINGS/AASIMER

Dragonborn players are shitters too but not as bad a goat niggers

I don't know if I hate Gnomes or WotC Teiflings more. Aasimer are also fucking garbage. I didn't see Tabaxi on the list so at least some of the fucking furry freakshit has been excised but trading them Aasimer is like trading getting shotgunned in the ankle for getting shotgunned in the foot.
Also not related to 2024e but fuck goblins as a playable race. PF2 has both Goblins and Gnomes as default races and is easy proof it is a garbage system.

I've never had issue with Dragonborn. Even in the furry tranny game someone posted earlier, the Dragonborn was the only character portrait that was in line with a D&D adventure and wasn't faggy.
 
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I don't know if I hate Gnomes or WotC Teiflings more.
Even in AD&D, gnomes always feel like they’re simultaneously overlapping with elves (magical forest people with a connection to the fey), dwarves (stout engineers), and halflings (jolly little people). Tieflings at least had a point in 2e and stayed tolerable in 3e.
Aasimer are also fucking garbage.
Sucks to your ass-mar.
I didn't see Tabaxi on the list so at least some of the fucking furry freakshit has been excised
Wait, wasn’t there some furry race they were replacing the Aasimar with?
Also fuck goblins as a playable race. PF2 has both Goblins and Gnomes as default races and is easy proof it is a garbage system.
I always thought that goblins as a playable race were tacky. If you want your heckin keanu smol bean quirk chungus race, leave all goblins evil as they should be and make a half-goblin or something.

…come to think of it, isn’t that the whole reason they made half-orcs?
 
Wait, wasn’t there some furry race they were replacing the Aasimar with?
Aardlings they're called. I don't know much about them and I can't find too much information but I don't think they're replacing Aasimar. Some people asked the same question about a year or two ago and I've yet to see people talk much about Aardlings compared to Aasimar, there's not even a wiki page for them. Then again I tend to stay away from large public spaces discussion tabletop since most of those places fucking suck. Are there any good forums for straight up Tabletop rather than CRPGs and whatnot? I have RPGCodex and RPGHQ for that.
 
Not to my knowledge, TTRPGs are much more siloed in their forums, where there is a single topic there, with even big D&D settings having their own separate forums from wider D&D ones.
Gotcha, I figured since I couldn't find any active ones that are at least not filled with turbofags.
 
I like Aasimer but then I've never encountered one on the tabletop.
I have never encountered an Assmar PC. I have encountered players who have talked of their Assmar PCs and both of them were pretty garbage, but all the Assmar NPCs in modules are hot fucking garbage.

If you want your heckin keanu smol bean quirk chungus race, kill yourself and take as many tabaxi and kinder with you as possible

Fix'd.
 
I have never encountered an Assmar PC. I have encountered players who have talked of their Assmar PCs and both of them were pretty garbage, but all the Assmar NPCs in modules are hot fucking garbage
The idea behind them is great and imho better than tiflings; an angel that basically has to deal with the mortal world and is compelled to do Good, but also has to balance out the compromises and settling for second best that living among mortals forces upon them is deeply interesting, but the D&D writers don't understand and hate the very idea of a defined Good and Evil so of course they flub it.
 
Wait, wasn’t there some furry race they were replacing the Aasimar with?
Aardlings they're called. I don't know much about them and I can't find too much information but I don't think they're replacing Aasimar. Some people asked the same question about a year or two ago and I've yet to see people talk much about Aardlings compared to Aasimar, there's not even a wiki page for them. Then again I tend to stay away from large public spaces discussion tabletop since most of those places fucking suck. Are there any good forums for straight up Tabletop rather than CRPGs and whatnot? I have RPGCodex and RPGHQ for that.
It seems as though they decided not to include them in the PHB after all, presumably because aasimar already filled the niche of "descendant of good-aligned beings" so there really wasn't much point to replacing a perfectly workable race that players are generally attached to. They only appeared in the first and third playtest rules and were never mentioned again, though it seems that they didn't bring up races again in any followup playtests, so I guess they made that call themselves sometime later and didn't feel the need to bring up the point again.

I decided to look up the different races to compare them. Although I haven't seen the new PHB to confirm, RPGBOT's article said that aasimar in the new PHB are basically the same as the MPMM version, but they can choose their transformation ability every time they use it instead of being locked into it. The original ardlings had bonus action flight up to your movement speed (prof. bonus/day), a cantrip and two leveled spells (once/day unless you use spell slots), and radiant damage resistance. The revised ardlings before they gave up the concept had a feature related to animal ancestry (climb speed+unarmed strike damage, safe fall+advantage on jump checks, increased movement on dash (prof. bonus*10 feet), or hold your breath for an hour+swim speed+cold resistance), any divine cantrip that can be changed on a long rest, and perception proficiency.

Compared to everything aasimar get (necrotic and radiant resistance, darkvision, a free heal once per day, light cantrip, and three transformations to suit different needs but only one use of any per day), I don't think ardlings would have been anyone's first choice to use, especially since all old races are still usable in the new rules anyway. Thus, why go to the trouble of making up something new and lame when something else better already existed they could use? I know making things lame is kind of WotC's deal these days, but laziness is far more of a motivator.
 
Race got butchered but I think everything else is no more soy then it was in 2014 and you can just run 2014 versions of any race and just ignore the racial abilities bonus (or leave it in and take the choice +2/+1 or +1/+1/+1 away from the earlier step in 2024 character creation) and it's still about the same.

Well aside from the art in the book; that's pretty soy but I didn't pay for it and won't pay for it so I don't care.
It is vastly more soy than it was in 2014. 2014 5e was just "New edition to fix the dumpster fire that was 4e so we're bringing in a bunch of B/X fanboys to streamline this shit." After vampire the masquerade 5e shit itself and died just out of the gate in 2018, I started running D&D 5e because it was almost entirely non-political.

And then they shitcanned Mearls and put Crawford in charge around 2020 and suddenly the gender-specials were everywhere.
 
It is vastly more soy than it was in 2014. 2014 5e was just "New edition to fix the dumpster fire that was 4e so we're bringing in a bunch of B/X fanboys to streamline this shit." After vampire the masquerade 5e shit itself and died just out of the gate in 2018, I started running D&D 5e because it was almost entirely non-political.

And then they shitcanned Mearls and put Crawford in charge around 2020 and suddenly the gender-specials were everywhere.
I'm talking strictly rules and not fluff or art or magical wheelchairs.
 
The idea behind them is great and imho better than tiflings; an angel that basically has to deal with the mortal world and is compelled to do Good, but also has to balance out the compromises and settling for second best that living among mortals forces upon them is deeply interesting, but the D&D writers don't understand and hate the very idea of a defined Good and Evil so of course they flub it.

I don't mind the concept of Tieflings but the number of garbage tiefling players is about 40%.

I guess anything Assmar does play wise, you could just have taken care of by good-aligned paladin/cleric (you could argue Tiefling could be taken care of by Warlock, and I wholly agree). I could also see them being used as an high-level ECL thing like trolls or what not. Actually probably using Aasmir as a class would resolve some issues I have with it.

But as you said, Woketards of the Coast can't deal with good/evil or people being servants of a god unless its some wokescold diety.
 
Tabaxi and goblins
you are so right, Tabaxi is a meta-munchkin race that I absolutely loathe. No likeable person plays tabaxi. Goblins is another shitter race that degenerates play. KOBOLDS(east and west) are another shitter race that I absolutely hate, havent played with someone who played a kobold, I just hate freakshit races. Simple as
 
KOBOLDS(east and west) are another shitter race that I absolutely hate, havent played with someone who played a kobold, I just hate freakshit races. Simple as

I have done some fun DMPC Kobolds (including one captured and later adopted by the party for a hireling) and my last campaign had a kobold rogue who due to Shifty was extremely effective in combat.
But in my experience, Kobolds in the lore are usually the lackies of Dragons and have a goal of trying to become dragons. That means while they are usually not smart, they respect a hierarchy, have a long term goal that isn't just murder & destruction the PCs can use to negotiate/manipulate them, and in general miss the absolute lolrandumb shit of goblins.

Eastern kobolds are usually just dogpeople, and fall under "suffer not the furry to live"
 
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But as you said, Woketards of the Coast can't deal with good/evil or people being servants of a god unless its some wokescold diety.
Wokies tend to be insufferable atheists that despise real-life religion, it's really no surprise they can't comprehend how someone relates to their deity, or how religious thinking works. Often times, they have to make a caricature of extreme morality to characterize a god (especially Good gods), even if almost every mythology and religion in history shows gods as proud and fallible.

Back to topic, I've had some decent tiefling players, some bad. Can't give a definite answer. They are definitely more appealing to the average player than aasimars. Haven't seen an aasimar player ever. I really dislike how often the concepts behind those two races are poorly used by authors in modules.

Now gnomes. I hate the bastards and the players that play them. Every time they're run as "kenders, but with pointy ears". Makes me want to Fireball their asses every time.
 
Off topic but the existence of tielfings/aasimer has been a blight on medieval fantasy. Every single shitter I've ever played with was le quirky, no fun, edgy, le hecken depressed, with MC syndrome.
The sad part about these races is that you could do some really neat things with them considering their ancestry. But sadly because of that uniqueness it attracts faggots like flies to shit. Tiefling players ESPECIALLY, they remind me of the same people who play Miqo'te or Au'ra in FF14.
Neeshka from NWN2
Why is she so bad? Never played the single player.
Now gnomes. I hate the bastards and the players that play them. Every time they're run as "kenders, but with pointy ears". Makes me want to Fireball their asses every time.
The best ones I've seen are the ones who play as male Gnomes who try and hit on other races that are taller than them with confidence, or "Biggers" as some Gnomes like to call em.
 
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