Super Mario Bros Wonder - furrybait

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Sugriva said:
Did anyone ever give a shit about score in a Mario game? It will not be missed.
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Think the only time I ever really cared was when somebody (Ceave?) did a video seeing what some of the lowest scores you can get are, pretty much turning every coin and powerup into a stage hazard.
 
Sugriva said:
Did anyone ever give a shit about score in a Mario game? It will not be missed.
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If we're going to use this as an argument then one must ask the follow-up question... is there still a point in having lives/1ups in a mario game?
 
Celebrate Nite said:
If we're going to use this as an argument then one must ask the follow-up question... is there still a point in having lives/1ups in a mario game?
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Ironically it's sort of a score in and of itself, because earning lives = fun thing that makes number go higher. Death is a deterrent because it makes number go lower. Whomever gets the biggest number wins, as is the case with everything in life
 
Celebrate Nite said:
If we're going to use this as an argument then one must ask the follow-up question... is there still a point in having lives/1ups in a mario game?
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It's basically an walking sim, nowadays; unless you're talking about an actual toddler playing through it
 
That Chris Guy said:
Looks cute, seems like some nice character added to the animations that I hope is consistent throughout the cast.

NSMBU seemed like rushed, outdated shit. I enjoyed SM3DW, and hopefully there is some vein of creativity and fun in this, maybe even trying something new like Odyssey.

Long as they don't pull a Halo 5 and restrict multiplayer to online co-op, it's sure to sell.
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Mayor Cody Travers said:
I wasn't expecting this or Sonic Superstars, much less both obviously shaping up to be unintended rivals like it's the 90s all over again. But the style looks cute and I hope some passion is put into the game, I'm always up for a good sidescroller as a guy who grew up in the 8-and-16-bit eras.
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Same. Looking forward to Wonder, looks like a breath a fresh air compared to the NSMB games. Also like how trippy the game looks, and hope there are more weird power-ups aside from the elephant.
 
Night Crawler said:
It's not any different than Mario getting the Tanooki suit a frog suit or a cat suit. This is not the first time Mario has been turned into an animal for gameplay mechanics.
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They were suits before, he looks weird literally becoming an anthropomorphic elephant, it's the only thing I don't like about it so far. Everything else seems refreshing.

Sugriva said:
Did anyone ever give a shit about score in a Mario game? It will not be missed.
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No, but it didn't detract from anything and it's just kind of nice to have. Instead of removing it they should innovate on it.
 
SSj_Ness said:
They were suits before, he looks weird literally becoming an anthropomorphic elephant, it's the only thing I don't like about it so far. Everything else seems refreshing.


No, but it didn't detract from anything and it's just kind of nice to have. Instead of removing it they should innovate on it.
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If anything the Tanooki suit is even more like a furry. Also elephants don't have fur. At least not a lot.

It can't be any weirder than seeing Mario hop into a tree and come out in a cat suit. lol
 
Super Mario Wonder is actually one of the games that I’m both intrigued and confused by, since it just looks like the Wii U version of Super Mario Bros, but updated to look more modern in the same way Odyssey and Super Mario Maker 2 was.

Either way, I expect this to be successful since the storyline looks interesting.
 
Jonah Hill poster said:
the storyline looks interesting.
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I guess in the sense that it's more interesting than the New Super games... But you're still just fighting Bowser again who has some new macguffin to power him up. The same story they've done a hundred times already.

It's time for Nintendo to retire Bowser as the main villain. He's way more fun and interesting as a playable antihero.
 
Sugriva said:
It's time for Nintendo to retire Bowser as the main villain. He's way more fun and interesting as a playable antihero.
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Most non-Bowser villains in Mario history sucked though.
The only memorable ones were Wario, Cackletta/Fawful and Bleck/Dimentio.

Wart and Tatanga are only remembered because of nostalgia factors.
Smithy and Queen Shroob are army leaders that have nothing else going on for them.
King Boo has a good design but has no motivation compared to Bowser.
Hellen motivation was to impress the villain with no motivation.
Wingo is basically Captain Toad's King Boo.
Antasma was better than Queen Shroob with his Dracula gimmick, but that's it, I think he would be a better fit for a Luigi's Mansion game than Mario and Luigi.
Origami King is basically a dumbed down version of Count Bleck arc with no memorable minions and more Toadphobia.
Shadow Queen and Megabug/Cursa are eldritch abominations, and eldritch abominations motivations are to destroy and consooom.

Talk about Miyamoto and his modern obsession about simple plots, but is very likely the most forgettable Squaresoft villain has more character than Smithy.
Villains that leaves a good impression usually don't stay for long too, this is why Kirby overarching villains are eldritch abominations and weapons of mass destruction since these things don't need to have complex characters, and the villains that falls victim to them either die or turn into Kirby's ally by the next title.
 
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Sugriva said:
I guess in the sense that it's more interesting than the New Super games... But you're still just fighting Bowser again who has some new macguffin to power him up. The same story they've done a hundred times already.

It's time for Nintendo to retire Bowser as the main villain. He's way more fun and interesting as a playable antihero.
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I don't want them to change things up too much. Here and there Peach being playable or having a new villain aside from Bowser is good, but in the end I just want Bowser to kidnap Peach.

We don't have enough simple, timeless stories like Mario in the mainstream anymore. It's just the knight in shining armor saving the damsel in distress from a villain, it's not trying to be more than it is and ending up pretentious/subversive like a lot of indie games, or woke like a lot of AAA junk.
 
SSj_Ness said:
I don't want them to change things up too much. Here and there Peach being playable or having a new villain aside from Bowser is good, but in the end I just want Bowser to kidnap Peach.

We don't have enough simple, timeless stories like Mario in the mainstream anymore. It's just the knight in shining armor saving the damsel in distress from a villain, it's not trying to be more than it is and ending up pretentious/subversive like a lot of indie games, or woke like a lot of AAA junk.
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I agree!! This is why more people should play Dragon Quest and read the Bible.
 
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