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The only problem I remember having with DeMatteis' Spectacular stuff was a lack of good buildup to Harry going insane again. For like... nearly 20 years Harry was sane and happily married to Liz Allen. JMD quickly throws that all away and reverts Harry back to how he was during Gerry Conway's Amazing run. Fortunately, the strength of the stories make up for it. The same could be said for Kraven in Last Hunt. Although, with Kraven's Last Hunt you can kinda squint and head canon the previous Kraven stories as Kraven becoming increasingly unhinged, though really I think that was largely lazy writers just using Kraven as an evil hunter with zero nuance.

It's a bit funny how Dematteis gave the definitive ending to two of Spider-Man's characters but years later shitty hack writers with no original ideas ended up bringing back both characters and ultimately did nothing of interest with them. That said, the original fan theory of Kindred being the actual original Harry, damned to and tormented in Hell for years who managed to escape or strike up a deal with a demon, and the other Harry being a clone or LMD, could've been interesting.

The theories with Kindred were so interesting, but it turned out to be kinda meh.

Shame because that had so much they could have done to breathe life into the series and maybe fix things. The reveal that it was the. . . weird Gwen Stacey/Norman Osborn kids was just underwhelming. I'd have preferred that this would have been the fan theory with the Stacy-Osborne kids being involved as a major red herring.

Hell, have all the creepy shit in there. What about Peter & MJ's missing baby? Imagine the really fucking weird shit they could have pulled. We had Mephisto & Dr. Strange talking at the end of that arc, with the clear setup that something was seriously fucked up.

I'd like to think that the writer was leading towards something genuinely interesting, but may have been forced to follow whatever Marvel Editorial wanted. Didn't they turn Ben Reilly into Chasm in the next story arc after that one?

What was up with that.

I feel like that entire run was cursed with "good theories" and "potential", only for it to all be a nothingburger. Can you imagine a gigantic event undoing OMD, letting Peter and MJ get back together, having Kindred become a major fucking threat, and all the old weird unresolved Spidey plot threads be worked into such a story?

Hell you could do it today. Didn't we get some issue with Spidey getting mentally fucked by some spear and rushing to go and kill Paul while Kraven the Hunter and Norman Osborne try to stop him.
 
I feel like that entire run was cursed with "good theories" and "potential", only for it to all be a nothingburger. Can you imagine a gigantic event undoing OMD, letting Peter and MJ get back together, having Kindred become a major fucking threat, and all the old weird unresolved Spidey plot threads be worked into such a story?
I still still think you could have an event of Peter fighting Mephisto and revealing that Silk, Paul, Spider-Boy and pretty much everybody else introduced then was a sleeper agent for Mephisto. It would make a lot of stuff make a lot more sense
 
I still still think you could have an event of Peter fighting Mephisto and revealing that Silk, Paul, Spider-Boy and pretty much everybody else introduced then was a sleeper agent for Mephisto. It would make a lot of stuff make a lot more sense

I could see it being a gigantic plot involving Marvel's mystic side and the whole "Totems" deal. What if it's not animal/nature based, but rather demonic?

Hell, let's go a step further. What if it turns out that Ben Reilly was supposed to fix everything, but couldn't due to his memories being fucked and turning into Chasm? I mean, there's a lot of fun stuff you could do. The issue is that we don't have the writers who want to tell these kinds of stories.
 
Oh how I love my Tomb Raider Archives. 4 in all. Lara is so fun. No sjw crap.

They are doing a new event at marvel. Someone will be Sorcerer Supreme. Why Clea wasn't chosen, I'll never understand...
 
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I'm back to talk about Epics.

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Rom: The Original Marvel Years vol. 1

For a long time, Rom was one of those Marvel characters that existed purely in internet message boards as a test of one's nerd knowledge. A test I failed, by the way. Even as a Marvel kid from the 90s and the hundreds of hours I spent going through the long bins at comic stores growing up, I had no fucking idea who Rom was until last year when Marvel completed the licensing deal with Hasbro to republish his stuff. And yet, now reading his book, I am starting to realize just how prevalent he was. He introduced Marvel to the dire wraiths, a faction of evil space aliens who would eventually appear in other titles including the Incredible Hulk, Avengers and the Uncanny X-Men.

The first volume of Rom is a mixed bag. The first half of the volume contain stories which are all essentially the same: the dire wraiths, disguised as humans, cause some trouble in a small west virginian town. Rom shows up, blows them all away, and gets called a murderer before wandering off to do it all again in the next issue. At around the halfway point, the town realizes that Rom isn't actually murdering humans, but evil aliens, and they all then become his friends.

The second half of the book is basically a tokusatsu story featuring Rom fighting the weird alien of the month. The second half is definitely better than the first, but its all bog-standard comic book fluff. Nothing exceptional, nothing worth getting excited about.

Rating: 5/10

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Avengers West Coast vol. 1 - "How the West was Won"

Holy shit this is garbage. Avengers West Coast vol. 1 contains the four issue mini-series plus the first ten or so issues of the regular series.

The Good:
Hawkeye and Mockingbird make a great couple. They have good chemistry and Hawkeye's desire to prove his team's mettle is compelling.

The Bad:
Every other Avenger.
-Wonder Man starts off fine, but then his brother shows up and Wonder Man has some kind of internal conflict about stealing money and going to jail, but although he went to jail, everybody thought his brother did it, but the Vision is also his brother but better than him and... its all so fucking convoluted and retarded.
-Tigra. Tigra fucks half the Avengers because she's becoming more cat-like and she's insecure because she thinks she can't cut it as an Avenger, so they take her to the cat island to fix her cat problem. However, the cat people want to remove any trace of the human from Tigra so she'll become fully cat like and... goddamn this is stupid.
-Ant-Man doesn't want to be a hero, but joins the team to be their Jarvis, but then Ultron shows up, calls him "daddy," and he has an existential crisis over an evil robot.
-Iron Man. Starts off as Rodey who has a decent arc of trying to live up to Tony's example, but then Tony just takes over (with no explanation) and has no personality.

The Villains.
One of the good thing about the Avengers--the real Avengers--is that they are able to turn even shit-tier villains into world-ending threats. The villains in this book are world-ending threats, but are so fucking poorly written that they all appear worthless and incompetent. Even Ultron is a fucking buffoon in this comic. A complete waste of good villains.

The Writing.
As I described when I talked about the team, the writing in this comic is shit. Every character has too much pathos, and the pathos is all retarded. Tigra is insecure because she has no powers. Makes sense. Great. But she's also becoming more cat like and fucking everything that moves, and is mad about that. Its too much. PICK A FUCKING LANE.
Same with the villains. The villains here are all super powerful, but written so stupidly that they come across like jokes.
Nothing works in these issues.

The Art.
Terrible. No dynamism whatsoever.

This is easily the worst Epic Collection I've read.

Rating 2/10.


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Danny Ketch Ghost Rider vol. 1 - "Vengeance Reborn"

The mainline issues of Ghost Rider: good art, coherent story, classic 90s action.
The Marvel Comics Present issues: okay art, incoherent story, garbage action.

I really enjoyed this volume. Danny Ketch makes a good Ghost Rider. Its 90s schlock, but I mean that in the best way possible. Just skip the Marvel Comics Presents stuff.

Rating: 9/10
 
I kind of want to reread West Coast Avengers after reading that. I remember liking it back when I read it years ago. Curious if I just have different taste then you or if I was actually just a retard when I was younger. I always liked Hawkeye as a character so I probably just latched onto that aspect of the book and my tiny childlike brain decided that was enough.
 
Speaking of collections,

SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN BY DEMATTEIS & BUSCEMA OMNIBUS

Now this was a run, though after awhile, in retrospect it seems like hubris that Marvel thought they could follow up on #200:


You could not do a Harry Osborn story after this, though in the years since, many have attempted to - with diminishing returns.

It also feels like that issue was the last Spider-Man comic. By that I mean, there have been other stories with the character but it feels like the Parker who debuted in Amazing Fantasy’s story ended here.
Really says a lot when you remember the storyline that was published right after ssm 200 was maximum carnage. Spidey never filly embraced the 90s "gritt my teeth and be angry all the time" edge the way the Jean Paul valley batman or post death superman would dabble in, but that doesn't mean he wasn't completely safe from the worst of the decade.
 
I only read some of Rom, mainly the stuff that crossed over with the X-Men (incidentally, Rom shows Rogue's first push into becoming a hero), and thought it was okay. Bill Mantlo's writing in Rom the Space Knight was very... workman-like, which describes a lot of his work. He was someone who clearly understood the fundamentals of writing - structure, pacing, characterization, continuity, story arcs - but rarely seemed passionate about what he was working on and his actually interesting ideas and concepts were few and far between. I've never really disliked something Mantlo wrote but, out of his large volume of work, I only ever really liked his Spectacular Spider-Man runs. A shame the guy's basically been a vegetable for the past 35 years after a hit & run.

Ghost Rider is funny. Danny Ketch is obviously the most popular iteration of the character but for some reason Marvel can't let go of the Johnny Blaze name, so most versions of the character after the '90s are basically just Danny Ketch but named Johnny Blaze.
 
I kind of want to reread West Coast Avengers after reading that. I remember liking it back when I read it years ago. Curious if I just have different taste then you or if I was actually just a retard when I was younger. I always liked Hawkeye as a character so I probably just latched onto that aspect of the book and my tiny childlike brain decided that was enough.
My understanding is that it gets better, reaches a peak with the Byrne run and then descends into 90s silliness before being cancelled.
 
Really says a lot when you remember the storyline that was published right after ssm 200 was maximum carnage. Spidey never filly embraced the 90s "gritt my teeth and be angry all the time" edge the way the Jean Paul valley batman or post death superman would dabble in, but that doesn't mean he wasn't completely safe from the worst of the decade.
I think Maximum Carnage is a more interesting story when you realize that it's meant to be a commentary on the 90's trend towards darker characters and how it's Spider-Man trying to resist it.

That bit where Cap shows up to help Peter up is one of my favorite scenes in comics.
 
Danny Ketch is obviously the most popular iteration of the character but for some reason Marvel can't let go of the Johnny Blaze name, so most versions of the character after the '90s are basically just Danny Ketch but named Johnny Blaze.
It can be rough being a Johnny Blaze fan sometimes
 
Spidey never filly embraced the 90s "gritt my teeth and be angry all the time" edge the way the Jean Paul valley batman or post death superman would dabble in, but that doesn't mean he wasn't completely safe from the worst of the decade.

I'd argue that while Superman's world got darker in the 90's (Toyman becoming a child killer and Luthor destroying Metropolis chief among them), he didn't get dark himself. Case in point, when Conduit made his move and Superman felt he had no choice but to give up Clark Kent, he made sure Ma, Pa, and Lois were safe.

After learning his parents were androids, Spider-Man abandoned Peter Parker, denied Peter existed anymore, and ditched MJ in a pair of story arcs titled "Shrieking" and "Beware the Rage of a Desperate Man." Which was followed up immediately by the darkest any comic not from Image could get with the Clone Saga.
 
maximum carnage was awful, it goes on for way too long (like 15 core issues, plus I think a few other tie-ins), was horribly repetitive, and ultimately has no lasting impact on anything

edit: also, i think the ending involves a gun that shoots out love and peace
Yeah way too long but I get why. It was meant to cover all the spider-man titles including the first and second issues of unlimited, all through the summer of 93. That was one hell of a year, but yeah gone on too long and the "good vibes ray" they use in the last act was....way too cheesy even for a comic that was trying it's damndest to be everything 90s grim and gritty comics wasn't. Which brings me too..

I think Maximum Carnage is a more interesting story when you realize that it's meant to be a commentary on the 90's trend towards darker characters and how it's Spider-Man trying to resist it.

That bit where Cap shows up to help Peter up is one of my favorite scenes in comics.
Yup, the making of interviews with writers both at the time and in retrospect made it clear the idea was to write a story that told those "super edgy since 1985" stories to piss off. Say what you want about 90s spiderman from the clone saga to TAS to the return of Howard Mackie and Jr Jr but he was one of the few characters who never totally lost track of who he is and what he stood for in that decade.
 
After learning his parents were androids, Spider-Man abandoned Peter Parker, denied Peter existed anymore, and ditched MJ in a pair of story arcs titled "Shrieking" and "Beware the Rage of a Desperate Man." Which was followed up immediately by the darkest any comic not from Image could get with the Clone Saga.
"I am... the Spider!"
I think that whole thing was meant to try to get fans to sour on Peter because it's also when Ben Reilly started showing up as a shadowy stranger in a panel here and there. Which allowed them to then introduce Ben as 'classic' Spider-Man, including having him beat Venom and go "lol wtf was Peter thinking letting this guy wander free"

I'm someone who largely likes the Clone Saga, but, yeah, that era has a lot of genuine shit in it. As for Maximum Carnage, I don't care what it was trying to do -- I care that it was an overly long slog fest that repeated the same plot of nearly beating Carnage, something happening, Carnage escaping for them to fight again. Followed by Peter cycling through a basic morality wheel of "Killing is wrong, I have to find a peaceful way to stop Carnage!" > "No, I'm going to have to do whatever it takes to stop Carnage!" > repeat.
 
I am... the Spider
Hey Peter? Wasn't it only a few years back, both in real life and in the comics. That you almost lost your sanity because kraven the hunter buried you alive and deluded himself into believing HE was "the spider."


If that arc was meant to evoke kravens last hunt it completely missed the entire point of it.
 
So, Spiderman was added to Webtoon, and which run do they decide to release on Webtoon?
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What do the readers have to say in the comments?

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YOU JUST KEEP HITTING THE FUCKING HOME-RUNS MARVEL!
 
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