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Stumbled over Jen Henson's Labyrinth: Coronation last night. I had no idea it even existed and it's already out of print. I bought the first volume for Kindle and it was really good. Art isn't fantastic but it isn't entirely feral either. The writing, characterisation and pacing was excellent. I'm looking forward to reading the other volumes and seeing how the series ends.
 
Quantum Diabetes said:
I acquired the original Transformers marvel comics again, man they were cringe but they are also magic. It really felt like an event.
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I used to have nearly a full set of those going back to the first and stopping collecting, well not sure. But break my heart and tell me how much they'd be worth today if I didn't get rid of the lot when I hit my early teens.
 
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I don't really like the "Crossed" series, but every day I see that religious people will often turn totally diabolical when confronted with their own nature, makes me wanna give them another read.
The dangers of not knowing nor being disposed to assimilate your own darkness but living comfortably believing you do.
 
trekkor said:
I've been following modern Spidey for a while now and can say with all honesty that Sins Past does not deserve to be considered one of the worst Spidey stories of all time when hacks such as Slott, Lowe, mid-to-late Spencer and now Wells are doing so much worse. Their stuff is more spread out over years or months so pople are more forgiving, but when you really start scrutinizing all the details and characterizations, you're not going to find anything appealing.

I mean, in Sins Past Peter is married and in a loving relationship, saves the day even after learning a horrible truth and comes out of it a bigger man. Gwen getting dicked by Tommy Lee Osborn is such a minor thing in the grand sceheme of things and did one thing good of putting an end to the eternal MJ vs Gwen fighting (for ~17ish years, F). Peter since OMD has been a manchild who is kept from a marriage with a woman everyone wants him to be together with just so he can fuck around with the writer's latest self-insert (totally not gay). He's often jobless, can't seem to finish college, goes through periods where fucking everyone hates him, has to share space with other Spider-jobbers, of which there are far FAR too many of (and they're making more! How many Spider-people do we need? They can't even decide what Spider-Gwen's personality besides being a coomerbait is) and is subject to the will of people who don't seem to understand Peter is a fucking fighter who keeps going until he physically can't - he doesn't job to the latest donutsteel OC and doesn't need to be shown losing to massive shitters.

It's so frustrating reading modern Spidey. Every new writer wants to shake up the status quo, but they do it the shittiest way possbile and waste so much potential, all while keeping OMD as eternally canon. Sorry, I had to bitch about it, because I do love Spider-man, but not what it's become.
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The One More Day thing unironically fascinates me. If I was like in an advisor position and the writers wanted to break up Peter and MJ I'd have done it way different and took the most obvious route. I'd go you want the marriage gone? Alright that's fine, I think MJ is the best civillian character and they make a fantastic couple but i'm not a diehard shipping type who cant handle two fictional characters not fucking but there is like a million different ways to break them up. Just have it so their marriage papers were faulty, set that up and then have them constantly forget to renew them and in a year have them break up. Then he's technically not divorced, technically never married in the first place but the characters thought they were and it doesnt really contradict anything. Plus it doesnt bring in magic bullshit

Honestly tho I dont know what net benefit there is to not having Spidey and MJ together. Will Marvel really come up with a more iconic and three dimensional character than her as a love interest? Nah lol. At least the benefit of BBC porn addicts meme-ing coalburner Gwen into reality is with her and Miles together now Peter has no one. At least a decade ago Gwen was seen as "Peter's first/true love" and a beacon of nostalgia for the boomer fans who write it but now they'd be racist or something to have Gwen be Peter's property so just get MJ and Peter married for god sake
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I don't really like the "Crossed" series, but every day I see that religious people will often turn totally diabolical when confronted with their own nature, makes me wanna give them another read.
The dangers of not knowing nor being disposed to assimilate your own darkness but living comfortably believing you do.
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only thing i know about crossed is that gay as fuck marks brooks series that tried to like paint people who call him retarded on twitter as like wanting to murder and rape and tortutre comic book writing women who arent fat (in a zombie series that might be the most sci fi part of it
ChampFantana said:
I've never really liked capeshit comics and greatly prefer other genres of comics. I like a lot of Judge Dredd, Punisher, and stuff like the Valiant run on Turok. It actually kind annoys me that nobody has bothered to make a good Turok movie.
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punisher and dredd are just capeshit with plot armor instead of superflight lol. tho i do wish there was more non-cape comics made, i like superheroes but crime stuff like a godfather-style narrative could make for a way better use of comics' strengths with continuity
Tor Lugosi said:
I started collecting the Claremont's X-Men omnibuses a while ago but eventually gave up. Between Uncanny, New Mutants, and X-Factor I realized there'd probably be like twenty omnibuses, which was just too much for me. Plus, Marvel for whatever reason constantly decides to not include various specials and one-offs, so even with all that money spent I still wouldn't have a complete collection of the '80s X-Men.

Speaking of omnibuses, Marvel's finally starting a line for Spectacular Spider-Man, which I'm looking forward to. They're also re-printing the old Wedding Album TPB, though I really wish they'd include the Parallel Lives special with it (the retcon that MJ knew about Peter being Spider-Man all along was dumb but aside from that I really like it). I'm actually kinda surprised they're re-releasing the Wedding Album -- is there any reason for them to do so in current Spider-Man?
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i think parrel lives was included with one of the epic collections if im right. and yea honestly i dont mind the retcon, i still think its a bit of foreshadowing that marvel writers take a less obvious solution (why not have her figure it out? she didnt need to know as soon as he got the powers) but it's still great to flesh out that couple
 
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Continued with my read-through of Daredevil during KF's downtime. Before taking a break from it I left off on #50, wherein DD beats the shit out of Wilson Fisk and declares himself the new Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen. For whatever reason the series decides to take a break from that and so #51 - 55 are written & drawn by David Mack and they follow Echo going on a vision quest. The story is... okay and the art is great but about 75% of the arc's script is exposition. Worse, that exposition is often presented as a weird word vomit on the page, like so:
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Which just becomes annoying to read. Mack would probably be a lot better off with a co-writer to reign him in and help better the pacing and structure of his stories.

Anyway, after Echo's arc wraps up it's back to Bendis with #56. This issue is the start of the The King of Hell's Kitchen arc... which is probably Bendis' worst arc. I have no idea what the fuck happened here. He seriously yadda-yadda-yaddas over Murdock being the new Kingpin and cleaning up Hell's Kitchen via a one year time skip and Urich giving us an issue's worth of exposition on what happened during that year. The bulk of the arc is about the yakuza trying to take over Hell's Kitchen, coming after Murdock due him being the new Kingpin. It's... all a huge waste of potential. I don't know if editorial interference fucked up the story or if Bendis just simply didn't know where to go with it but, yeah, it feels like a waste of an interesting idea.

After that arc is a Black Widow focused one. Natasha runs into some spy & political trouble, so she decides to hideout with Matt for a while. It's a decent arc, although it feels like such a weirdly lowkey follow-up arc to Matt becoming Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen.

Next was the most last arc I've read, Golden Age, which goes from #66 - 70. It's probably one of my favorite Bendis arcs so far. Alexander Bont, the kingpin before Fisk, is released from prison. It weaves together three different time periods: Bont's rise to Kingpin, Daredevil (back when he was in his hideous yellow costume) taking down Bont, and the current day of Bont getting his revenge. The premise is probably stronger than the execution of it but Golden Age was a really engaging and entertaining read. With the end of Golden Age there's only 11 issues left of Bendis' run, after which Ed Brubaker takes over for roughly 40 issues.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
Continued with my read-through of Daredevil during KF's downtime. Before taking a break from it I left off on #50, wherein DD beats the shit out of Wilson Fisk and declares himself the new Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen. For whatever reason the series decides to take a break from that and so #51 - 55 are written & drawn by David Mack and they follow Echo going on a vision quest. The story is... okay and the art is great but about 75% of the arc's script is exposition. Worse, that exposition is often presented as a weird word vomit on the page, like so:
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Which just becomes annoying to read. Mack would probably be a lot better off with a co-writer to reign him in and help better the pacing and structure of his stories.

Anyway, after Echo's arc wraps up it's back to Bendis with #56. This issue is the start of the The King of Hell's Kitchen arc... which is probably Bendis' worst arc. I have no idea what the fuck happened here. He seriously yadda-yadda-yaddas over Murdock being the new Kingpin and cleaning up Hell's Kitchen via a one year time skip and Urich giving us an issue's worth of exposition on what happened during that year. The bulk of the arc is about the yakuza trying to take over Hell's Kitchen, coming after Murdock due him being the new Kingpin. It's... all a huge waste of potential. I don't know if editorial interference fucked up the story or if Bendis just simply didn't know where to go with it but, yeah, it feels like a waste of an interesting idea.

After that arc is a Black Widow focused one. Natasha runs into some spy & political trouble, so she decides to hideout with Matt for a while. It's a decent arc, although it feels like such a weirdly lowkey follow-up arc to Matt becoming Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen.

Next was the most last arc I've read, Golden Age, which goes from #66 - 70. It's probably one of my favorite Bendis arcs so far. Alexander Bont, the kingpin before Fisk, is released from prison. It weaves together three different time periods: Bont's rise to Kingpin, Daredevil (back when he was in his hideous yellow costume) taking down Bont, and the current day of Bont getting his revenge. The premise is probably stronger than the execution of it but Golden Age was a really engaging and entertaining read. With the end of Golden Age there's only 11 issues left of Bendis' run, after which Ed Brubaker takes over for roughly 40 issues.
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Originally Vision Quest was supposed to be a mini-series, but then Bendis and Maleev asked Marvel if they could take a small break to do something different and recharge their batteries after 25 issues, so Marvel decided to just slap Vision Quest as a break. I think it probably would have worked better as a stand alone because it was jarring, especially coming after such a big event.

That time skip also bugged me because the "hero takes over the underworld" idea is something I've seen set up in comics but then never followed through on. Hell, the last episode of Luke Cage implied he was going to do something like that, and possibly go over the edge, but of course it got cancelled and you know the MCU won't follow up on it.. There was plenty that could be done with Matt being the new kingpin, but Bendis chickened out at the end and nothing came of it.

It's part of what's always bugged me about how Jason Todd was handled. He understands that crime will never be eliminated in Gotham, and so tries to limit the violence and drugs by being a kingpin. Yes, he goes about it in a way that breaks Bruce's code, but what if they did a story, or a comic run, in which he's given the chance to do it? It's probably been done before and I just haven't read it, or I have and I can't remember, but the hero doing his best to wrestle a violent profession to be less dangerous for everyone involved, and having a huge target on his back, is a premise that could work if done well.
 
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man, why keep using kryptonians as villains, just stop it
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I got myself a limited black and white edition of Incal no 5 because i was a good boy and saved all my milk money this month.

i already have other books of this edition and its suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper sweet and only 60€
 
Anyone read the Warworld finale?
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It’s a good time.
 
Regarding OMD: Joe Quesada actually offered to fire JMS, around a year into his run on Amazing Spider-Man, and give the book to Kevin Smith, so long as Smith made his first act on the book the complete destruction of the Spider-Man marriage. Smith, in a rare moment of sanity, said the only way he could conceivably do an end of marriage break-up story would be if Peter explicitly cheated on MJ and filed for divorce after he got caught, so that he could be with his new girlfriend and even Quesada balked at that pitch.

As for Furman's run; it's better than the Budiansky run but it is very much jarring in how Furman fridged Ratchet/shitted all over the guy who was one of the main leads of the title under Budiansky and immediately slotted Hot Rod and Kup as Optimus's BFFs, even though in the comic prior, they were background characters and part of Fortress Maximus's running crew instead.

Also, super disappointed that Shockwave, Starscream, and Galvatron had nothing to do in the final battle with Unicron. Galvatron got swatted away like a fly and Shockwae/Starscream spent the entire battle hiding in the arc and Shockwave metaphorically shitting his pants in terror the entire time. Which was a shame, as a lot of fans reading the comic were very interested in what role Starscream, Shockwave, and the recently revived Megatron were going to play in the fight against Unicron.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
Continued with my read-through of Daredevil during KF's downtime. Before taking a break from it I left off on #50, wherein DD beats the shit out of Wilson Fisk and declares himself the new Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen. For whatever reason the series decides to take a break from that and so #51 - 55 are written & drawn by David Mack and they follow Echo going on a vision quest. The story is... okay and the art is great but about 75% of the arc's script is exposition. Worse, that exposition is often presented as a weird word vomit on the page, like so:
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Which just becomes annoying to read. Mack would probably be a lot better off with a co-writer to reign him in and help better the pacing and structure of his stories.

Anyway, after Echo's arc wraps up it's back to Bendis with #56. This issue is the start of the The King of Hell's Kitchen arc... which is probably Bendis' worst arc. I have no idea what the fuck happened here. He seriously yadda-yadda-yaddas over Murdock being the new Kingpin and cleaning up Hell's Kitchen via a one year time skip and Urich giving us an issue's worth of exposition on what happened during that year. The bulk of the arc is about the yakuza trying to take over Hell's Kitchen, coming after Murdock due him being the new Kingpin. It's... all a huge waste of potential. I don't know if editorial interference fucked up the story or if Bendis just simply didn't know where to go with it but, yeah, it feels like a waste of an interesting idea.

After that arc is a Black Widow focused one. Natasha runs into some spy & political trouble, so she decides to hideout with Matt for a while. It's a decent arc, although it feels like such a weirdly lowkey follow-up arc to Matt becoming Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen.

Next was the most last arc I've read, Golden Age, which goes from #66 - 70. It's probably one of my favorite Bendis arcs so far. Alexander Bont, the kingpin before Fisk, is released from prison. It weaves together three different time periods: Bont's rise to Kingpin, Daredevil (back when he was in his hideous yellow costume) taking down Bont, and the current day of Bont getting his revenge. The premise is probably stronger than the execution of it but Golden Age was a really engaging and entertaining read. With the end of Golden Age there's only 11 issues left of Bendis' run, after which Ed Brubaker takes over for roughly 40 issues.
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I can't imagine reading Bendis shit unironically. It's made all the more galling because for twenty years he was gifted with some of the best artists in comics.

Registration said:
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Mark Millar did this in superman Adventures decades ago. Apparently they are race swapping everyone in this along with some really boring design work.

Newman's Lovechild said:
It looks like they mistook Kal-El for Kakarot.

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I get Invincible vibes from it, which is fitting because Invincible is a rip off of Dragon Ball. It's what happens every time Superman loses its identity.
 
I don't remember who wrote the six issues of Soul Saga, but I wish that story had kept going. The art was great, the writing was good, and the story was just kicking into high gear when it was dropped. Sad day.
 
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jspit2.0 said:
I get Invincible vibes from it, which is fitting because Invincible is a rip off of Dragon Ball. It's what happens every time Superman loses its identity.
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And Dragon Ball is a rip off of Superman with some Journey To West sprinkled in
  • Alien baby gets rocketed to Earth by his dad, who predicted his planet would be toast but no one believes him
  • Doesn't realize his alien heritage until early adulthood/late teens
  • Flies, has god-like strength, can channel almost limitless amounts of energy, has come back from the dead at least once.
  • Marries sassy Earth brunette
  • Hangs out with green shapeshifting alien who is one of the last of his race
  • Also hangs out with a wimpy human who manages to nail chicks above his pay grade
  • Superman is powered by the Sun. Goku turns into giant ape by the Moon
 
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