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I haven't been following comics for most of this year or last year, is there anything Marvel or DC put out that is worth reading? (for someone who enjoys things from before or during the New 52 era)
The Terrifics is pretty good but some of it might be confusing if you haven't read Dark Knights Metal. The only other two recommended reads I have for you are The Savage Avengers and Joker War.
 
Last I heard, Tom Taylor's having his comic journalist cronies try and salvage his rape of the Superman franchise by claiming "Gay Jon is outselling Straight Clark!" even though sales for both books are at record lows.

If Dark Crisis doesn't fucking erase everything from the Bendis run and the Taylor run, then all hope is lost because of the way that the only fucking point of doing Dark Crisis would be to purge the vineyard of all of the shit that DiDio wouldn't let Snyder reset because of 5G.

No one can possibly believe that, my local comic book store (kinda, where I'm from is more like a magazine store but with focus on comics) isn't even getting Superman anymore, in fact besides Batman, there is only a scattershot of DC floppies around, shit is REALLY bad for DC now, I've always had some eye rolling for the chicken little talk about the death of "american comics", but shit looks rough right now, and honestly, there isn't a single run besides Chip Zdarsky's Daredevil that I have even the slight interest to check.

Which is a shame, because DC was going strong on the rebirth brand back in 2016, people shit on Tom King now, but his Batman had a great start, and cards on the table, not the biggest Superman fan, but the Tomasi run was my favorite capshit comic in years, heck I would say it was the only floopies I was buying since I dunno, blackest night?

No one buys that gay Jon is a hit, either Tom Taylor is fine misleading shit, or he is as delusional as the rest of the comics folks that as whistling past the graveyard.

Other thing is, why Tom Taylor is even around? I know he is kinda of a big deal in Australias (or so I've been told), and if you had a big hit run in the past, in american capeshit stuff you can coast by if you have enough clout, we all know american superhero comics is a club now.

But, what is the Taylor's big hit under his belt that allows him to be around? Were those injustice comics that big of a hit?

Worst thing that has ever happenend to comics was this notion that they had to be "ip farms". And I know this isn't new or because of Hollywood, back in the 80's, i can't recall who, but thee was this joke that the real money behind Marvel was selling Spider-man underwear.

But come the fuck on, really, this is what American comics will be reduced to, a club of manchildren circle jerking around the same failures, because quality doesn't matter, all that matters is that you can stamp a logo on product and maybe get the luck to sell a character for a streaming series, that will be nothing like the original material (As in "The boys" has nothing to do with the comics).
 
Taylor wrote the Injustice tie-in comics which shit all over Superman and did a LOT of work in Injustice to enshrine the idea of Harley Quinn as a mass murdering "didn't do nothing" faux heroine who can do all sorts of vile, evil shit but be treated as a heroine by all because fuck Superman and fuck Lois Lane, their unborn child, and pretty much everyone Harley and Joker killed in Metropolis.

He also personally destroyed Earth 2 for Dan DiDio, who wanted to keep the Justice Society dead in the New 52 but reluctantly brought them back to get James Robinson back on the payroll and not working for Marvel. And created a marketable version of Flashpoint Batman in Earth 2 and along with a non-Morrison Black Superman that could be used easier than Morrison's Obama stand-in version and further raped Superman and his lore/characters in Earth 2.

TL;DR he's DiDio's go-to guy to rape and shit on Superman, doing it even more completely and utterly than even fucking Bendis and Chuck Austen, due to Taylor DESPISING the character and his supporting cast (as horrible as Bendis and Austen's runs were, they at least had an admitted liking of the character even if it absolutely didn't show up in their writings) and will explicitly go out of his way to salt the earth every and any chance he can if allowed near the characters.
 
TL;DR he's DiDio's go-to guy to rape and shit on Superman, doing it even more completely and utterly than even fucking Bendis and Chuck Austen, due to Taylor DESPISING the character and his supporting cast (as horrible as Bendis and Austen's runs were, they at least had an admitted liking of the character even if it absolutely didn't show up in their writings) and will explicitly go out of his way to salt the earth every and any chance he can if allowed near the characters.

Yeah, I hear this a lot about whenever a comic run gets "controvertial", it is because the writer or the editor, or both, hated such and such character, and wanted to turn it into their own ideas of how the character should be and blah blah blah.

And I'm not opposed to see new perspectives in said character, and heavens knows after 50+ years of comics, we can use a fresh take here or there.

But if said authors hate a character, why even bother to write them? Tom Taylor ain't hurting for cash you know, I took a look at the guy and he has very popular comics outside the big 2 and even a show on netflix not too long ago, so why is he wasting his time on a character he obviously don't like, and changing stuff people liked about said characters and stories out of, what it seems to be, simple selfish whim?

I'm not saying that every comic needs to a love letter, but it is such a turn off when you can see the hatred of a author towards certain character. We we just talking Morrison's X-men, which I liked, but man there was no chill when it came to the haterboner Morrison had against Cyclops, and I can't say I'm a fan of good old Slim, and it isn't like he doesn't have some shody stories (the whole deal with leaving Madelyne and his son), but no matter what, it is a bucket of ice water when you are reading any story that comes out of contempt, more so when it is supposed to be a action/adventure superhero deal.

Not to mention, people like these characters as they are are, and people like heroes being heroes, and what is wrong giving the readers what they want?
 
Taylor wrote the Injustice tie-in comics which shit all over Superman and did a LOT of work in Injustice to enshrine the idea of Harley Quinn as a mass murdering "didn't do nothing" faux heroine who can do all sorts of vile, evil shit but be treated as a heroine by all because fuck Superman and fuck Lois Lane, their unborn child, and pretty much everyone Harley and Joker killed in Metropolis.

He also personally destroyed Earth 2 for Dan DiDio, who wanted to keep the Justice Society dead in the New 52 but reluctantly brought them back to get James Robinson back on the payroll and not working for Marvel. And created a marketable version of Flashpoint Batman in Earth 2 and along with a non-Morrison Black Superman that could be used easier than Morrison's Obama stand-in version and further raped Superman and his lore/characters in Earth 2.

TL;DR he's DiDio's go-to guy to rape and shit on Superman, doing it even more completely and utterly than even fucking Bendis and Chuck Austen, due to Taylor DESPISING the character and his supporting cast (as horrible as Bendis and Austen's runs were, they at least had an admitted liking of the character even if it absolutely didn't show up in their writings) and will explicitly go out of his way to salt the earth every and any chance he can if allowed near the characters.
I don’t agree with you often but this time, you hit the nail on the head. Fuck Taylor.

He’s doing a series called Dark Knights of Steel (gay) and it just shits on Superman while masturbating Batman, set in “ye old Europe” but the Californian version with niggerknights.
 
Like with the First goosebumps books we don't have an exact publication date for the first appearance of Spider-Man. Just that it was sometime in august of 1962. So since we're halfway through the month let me be the first to wish ole' Peter Parker a happy big 6 0 years and counting. For better;
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zef1ENShWzAand worse:
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(from sins past..the comic that once said Gwen Stacy slept with norman Osborn)
I've been following modern Spidey for a while now and can say with all honesty that Sins Past does not deserve to be considered one of the worst Spidey stories of all time when hacks such as Slott, Lowe, mid-to-late Spencer and now Wells are doing so much worse. Their stuff is more spread out over years or months so pople are more forgiving, but when you really start scrutinizing all the details and characterizations, you're not going to find anything appealing.

I mean, in Sins Past Peter is married and in a loving relationship, saves the day even after learning a horrible truth and comes out of it a bigger man. Gwen getting dicked by Tommy Lee Osborn is such a minor thing in the grand sceheme of things and did one thing good of putting an end to the eternal MJ vs Gwen fighting (for ~17ish years, F). Peter since OMD has been a manchild who is kept from a marriage with a woman everyone wants him to be together with just so he can fuck around with the writer's latest self-insert (totally not gay). He's often jobless, can't seem to finish college, goes through periods where fucking everyone hates him, has to share space with other Spider-jobbers, of which there are far FAR too many of (and they're making more! How many Spider-people do we need? They can't even decide what Spider-Gwen's personality besides being a coomerbait is) and is subject to the will of people who don't seem to understand Peter is a fucking fighter who keeps going until he physically can't - he doesn't job to the latest donutsteel OC and doesn't need to be shown losing to massive shitters.

It's so frustrating reading modern Spidey. Every new writer wants to shake up the status quo, but they do it the shittiest way possbile and waste so much potential, all while keeping OMD as eternally canon. Sorry, I had to bitch about it, because I do love Spider-man, but not what it's become.
 
I've never really liked capeshit comics and greatly prefer other genres of comics. I like a lot of Judge Dredd, Punisher, and stuff like the Valiant run on Turok. It actually kind annoys me that nobody has bothered to make a good Turok movie.
 
I'm starting to read "Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen: Who Killed Jimmy Olsen?"

In the first 2 chapters Jimmy hooks up via a one-night-stand with a Pan-dimensional hopping villainess (who locks a feral stray cat in their hotel bathroom - and tore his 5th best tweed jacket and vomited all over the room.)

Dimensional Hopper steals Jimmy's wallet, so He texts Lois Lane for $10K and hilariously blocks his number.

Not sure if I like it yet.
 
Which is a shame, because DC was going strong on the rebirth brand back in 2016, people shit on Tom King now, but his Batman had a great start, and cards on the table, not the biggest Superman fan, but the Tomasi run was my favorite capshit comic in years, heck I would say it was the only floopies I was buying since I dunno, blackest night?
Rebirth was doing OK for maybe about four months before it started crashing again. And how the fuck can you remotely justify Tom King's Batman as being good at any given point is beyond me. Didn't he start off with that nonsense about Not-Superman and Not-Supergirl or something?

Basically my point is that DC has been on an inevitable downward spiral and nothing they have done for the past 2 decades has managed to stop it or even massively slow it down.
TL;DR he's DiDio's go-to guy to rape and shit on Superman, doing it even more completely and utterly than even fucking Bendis and Chuck Austen, due to Taylor DESPISING the character and his supporting cast (as horrible as Bendis and Austen's runs were, they at least had an admitted liking of the character even if it absolutely didn't show up in their writings) and will explicitly go out of his way to salt the earth every and any chance he can if allowed near the characters.
Austen's biggest flaw was his massive hate-boner for Lois Lane and even then you could sorta understand it when you consider how much of a bitch she was being written as at the time. Other than that, he wasn't even that horrible now that I think about it.
 
Rebirth was doing OK for maybe about four months before it started crashing again. And how the fuck can you remotely justify Tom King's Batman as being good at any given point is beyond me. Didn't he start off with that nonsense about Not-Superman and Not-Supergirl or something?

Yes, his first storyline was about Gotham boy and Gotham girl, which I though it was a good story for real. It dealt with the issue that Batman being only human maybe wasn't enough for Gotham as he resigned to his death trying to save a crashing plane, only to be saved by two new meta-human super-heroes who genuinely just wanted to help the best way they could, and surprisingly Batman accepted their help and they even worked with them in hopes that maybe these two new super-powered heroes in Gotham might prevent the ever increasing threats that Batman himsef admitted he wasn't being able to handle it.

It was nice to see Batman in a mentor role outside the whole Bat-family deal (not to mention that I hate the very concept of a Bat-family, but thats for another day).

Yeah, this storyline doesn't stick the landing (hey, its Tom King), and the use of Psycho Pirate to cheap out a quick Heel turn on Gotham boy, it served more of a hasten way to set up Gotham Girl's character arc and further storyline.... that isn't all that great...

Hum... Look, I liked King's first year on Batman, the Gotham kids story was something different for Batman to deal with, and the attack on Bane's Island was like a big blockbuster action flick, it was fun... and then the Bat-cat deal started and shit went south...

Weird guy this Tom King, I never read his Vision work that everybody praises, but I do think his start at Batman was strong, and at the time time there was a lot of hype around the guy, seriously, people were talking about his Mr. Miracle series as being the next "The New Frontier" sort of a big deal, and then poof! he was hot and now he is not.

So, what was his deal? Social media brain rot the Marvel folks got?
 
Yes, his first storyline was about Gotham boy and Gotham girl, which I though it was a good story for real. It dealt with the issue that Batman being only human maybe wasn't enough for Gotham as he resigned to his death trying to save a crashing plane, only to be saved by two new meta-human super-heroes who genuinely just wanted to help the best way they could, and surprisingly Batman accepted their help and they even worked with them in hopes that maybe these two new super-powered heroes in Gotham might prevent the ever increasing threats that Batman himsef admitted he wasn't being able to handle it.
The problem being that this story had already been done before and in a much better way. The way Tom King did it was pants-on-head retarded and that's not even getting into the regular kind of retarded that his writing was.

As for Vision, it was over-hyped trash. It has the same kind of bizarre take on relationships that King did with Batman and Catwoman except people gave it a pass because it wasn't as jarring as with Batman's character. King's writing was never good.
 
The problem being that this story had already been done before and in a much better way. The way Tom King did it was pants-on-head retarded and that's not even getting into the regular kind of retarded that his writing was.

As for Vision, it was over-hyped trash. It has the same kind of bizarre take on relationships that King did with Batman and Catwoman except people gave it a pass because it wasn't as jarring as with Batman's character. King's writing was never good.
King's work on The Vision, Mister Miracle, and Adam Strange (in Strange Adventures) all give off this "Boy, being married and living in the subsurbs sucks and makes me want to kill myself" vibe that I call "Depressive porn". I'm surprised Tom' s wife hasn't read between the lines and divorced him yet.
 
King's work on The Vision, Mister Miracle, and Adam Strange (in Strange Adventures) all give off this "Boy, being married and living in the subsurbs sucks and makes me want to kill myself" vibe that I call "Depressive porn". I'm surprised Tom' s wife hasn't read between the lines and divorced him yet.
Judging by this, I'm pretty sure King would rather be married to a pornstar.
 
The problem being that this story had already been done before and in a much better way. The way Tom King did it was pants-on-head retarded and that's not even getting into the regular kind of retarded that his writing was.

Can you share which story is that? No snark, I just want to know, I'm a casual Batman reader.
 
Last I heard, Tom Taylor's having his comic journalist cronies try and salvage his rape of the Superman franchise by claiming "Gay Jon is outselling Straight Clark!" even though sales for both books are at record lows.
Well, I believe that Superman has traditionally outsold Action, but as you point out, both books are at record lows so the point is moot anyway, The tragedy of it is that Philip Kennedy Johnson's "Warworld Saga" is vastly superior to whatever Taylor is shitting out. It has some pacing issues, but I don't get the feeling that my time is being wasted because PKJ is fretting out Warworld through some well-crafted world building. It certainly helps that art is also pretty solid too. On top of that, there are actual stakes here because A) the Star Forges emit red star radiation so Clark has no powers, and B) the Authority got their asses handed to them, with some even defecting or brainwashed into joining Mongul's side. Yet at the core of it is how Clark inspires people.

You get none of that with Tom Taylor's Super-brat. Son of Kal-El has even more glacial pacing were Jon basically does nothing but flirt with his pink-haired twink of a BF. Supposedly there is something, something Harry Bendix taking over Gamorra and weaponizing metahumans for his army, but I stopped caring because Taylor made it clear in his interviews that he was writing for the publicity. I honestly don't know why anyone would care that he and Nichole Maines brought Dreamer from CW's Supergirl into mainstream continuity. Thirteen issues in and it is now that Jon and his actually to do something about Bendix, but why should anyone give a fuck? There are no actual stakes to the story because Taylor isn't going to write anything that actually challenges Jon.
 
I've been following modern Spidey for a while now and can say with all honesty that Sins Past does not deserve to be considered one of the worst Spidey stories of all time when hacks such as Slott, Lowe, mid-to-late Spencer and now Wells are doing so much worse. Their stuff is more spread out over years or months so pople are more forgiving, but when you really start scrutinizing all the details and characterizations, you're not going to find anything appealing.

I mean, in Sins Past Peter is married and in a loving relationship, saves the day even after learning a horrible truth and comes out of it a bigger man. Gwen getting dicked by Tommy Lee Osborn is such a minor thing in the grand sceheme of things and did one thing good of putting an end to the eternal MJ vs Gwen fighting (for ~17ish years, F). Peter since OMD has been a manchild who is kept from a marriage with a woman everyone wants him to be together with just so he can fuck around with the writer's latest self-insert (totally not gay). He's often jobless, can't seem to finish college, goes through periods where fucking everyone hates him, has to share space with other Spider-jobbers, of which there are far FAR too many of (and they're making more! How many Spider-people do we need? They can't even decide what Spider-Gwen's personality besides being a coomerbait is) and is subject to the will of people who don't seem to understand Peter is a fucking fighter who keeps going until he physically can't - he doesn't job to the latest donutsteel OC and doesn't need to be shown losing to massive shitters.

It's so frustrating reading modern Spidey. Every new writer wants to shake up the status quo, but they do it the shittiest way possbile and waste so much potential, all while keeping OMD as eternally canon. Sorry, I had to bitch about it, because I do love Spider-man, but not what it's become.

Sins Past was a horrible franchise mythos ruining storyline, to the point that it should never of been greenlit even if the form that JMS originally pitched (the twins were supposed to be PETER'S KIDS WITH GWEN!).

The only redeeming thing about it, and this is a bit of a stretch given the nature of the dumpster fire that the story was, is that Norman/Gwen was a consensual one night stand and even then, the only ONLY reason it wasn't retconned as rape was due to Joe Quesada point blank stating he got off on the idea of Gwen cucking Peter with Norman and that "Norman had raw sex appeal because of his wealth and power".

And it says something about how, when OMD came out, JMS EXPLICITLY wanted it made canon in the story's finale that Sins Past had been purged from canon due to the removal of the Spider-Man marriage (as MJ was supposed to keep Harry Osborn from getting into drugs in the new timeline by becoming his lover, triggering a butterfly effect shift that causes Gwen to not have her one night stand). But Quesada and Brevoort not only stopped this from happening, but ALSO made a huge point of saying when everyone and their mother was confused about what Spidey stories from 1987 to 2008 were still canon, that Sins Past WAS STILL CANON. Purely to spite fans. Even those who might have hedged their hate of OMD by saying "it's a horrible story.... but it did erase Sins Past so it's not 100% without redeeming value".

Also, I'll defend Spencer's run since he was having the unenviable task of unfucking the franchise after Slot spent ten years raping it beyond recognition and Spencer himself having to go full fan service to salvage his career after the Nazi Cap debacle. The only two arcs that were bad was the Kraven one (which was utterly pointless and put us back into the same god-damn position we were pre-Grim Hunt resurrection of Kraven where we have clones and identical sons running around as Kraven because no one had the balls to just bring him back if they wanted to use him so badly) and the 2099 story, which COULD have worked had Spencer followed up on the apparent fridging of Americop as far as revealing him to be alive and in hiding and run the storyline of a bunch of 2099 bad guys wanting to kill Bart Gallows so that they can ensure Punisher 2099 (his grandson) is never born and erasing/changing the timeline.

Rebirth was doing OK for maybe about four months before it started crashing again. And how the fuck can you remotely justify Tom King's Batman as being good at any given point is beyond me. Didn't he start off with that nonsense about Not-Superman and Not-Supergirl or something?

Basically my point is that DC has been on an inevitable downward spiral and nothing they have done for the past 2 decades has managed to stop it or even massively slow it down.

Austen's biggest flaw was his massive hate-boner for Lois Lane and even then you could sorta understand it when you consider how much of a bitch she was being written as at the time. Other than that, he wasn't even that horrible now that I think about it.
King got to write Batman because there was a bidding war for him between Marvel and DC and King signed with DC exclusively because they promised him the main Batbook to write.

Also, Lois wasn't written as a bitch in the Superman books during this era (she didn't become a bitch until New 52). Austen was a Lana shipper and divorced her and Pete so she could chase Clark and try and fuck him/break up his marriage. And he made a huge fucking mistake telegraphing his hate for Lois in lead-up interviews complete with pushing the idea of "first love/only love" due to his own fucked up relationship shit with his wife and his parents marriage collapsing.
 
Well, I believe that Superman has traditionally outsold Action, but as you point out, both books are at record lows so the point is moot anyway, The tragedy of it is that Philip Kennedy Johnson's "Warworld Saga" is vastly superior to whatever Taylor is shitting out. It has some pacing issues, but I don't get the feeling that my time is being wasted because PKJ is fretting out Warworld through some well-crafted world building. It certainly helps that art is also pretty solid too. On top of that, there are actual stakes here because A) the Star Forges emit red star radiation so Clark has no powers, and B) the Authority got their asses handed to them, with some even defecting or brainwashed into joining Mongul's side. Yet at the core of it is how Clark inspires people.

You get none of that with Tom Taylor's Super-brat. Son of Kal-El has even more glacial pacing were Jon basically does nothing but flirt with his pink-haired twink of a BF. Supposedly there is something, something Harry Bendix taking over Gamorra and weaponizing metahumans for his army, but I stopped caring because Taylor made it clear in his interviews that he was writing for the publicity. I honestly don't know why anyone would care that he and Nichole Maines brought Dreamer from CW's Supergirl into mainstream continuity. Thirteen issues in and it is now that Jon and his actually to do something about Bendix, but why should anyone give a fuck? There are no actual stakes to the story because Taylor isn't going to write anything that actually challenges Jon.
This, I’m loving Warworld, Punished Clark’s story has been great.
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Clark is fighting and dying for the amusement of the people he came to save, never backing down and never compromising who he is, despite all the reason in (War)world to do so.

Jon is sucking cock and shilling Democrat political causes while his dad is literally living a Souls-like game.
 
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