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The fuck are they doing to my boy Tim Drake in this new series. It reads like a teenage yaoi fangirl was hired to write it, and the art is repulsive. You have these awesome covers and then you look inside and it's actually, objectively terrible.
 
BTW I don't know what is more insulting this week:

Amazing Spider-Man/Sins of Sinister Spoilers

Amazing Spider-Man goes full on with making Ben the villain of Dark Web, complete with Janine turning on Maddie and getting her Scythe and handing it (and control over Limbo) to Ben. Granted, Maddie's a bit a dick in that she doesn't get the X-Men to help Ben with his problems, but given the shit given to her over the decades, I can forgive her and Wells for not dog piling on her. But still, Ben goes super saiyan and becomes "King Chasm" and everyone gathers to beat up Ben, even Rek-Rap, who again seems to be Wells chasing after that movie royalty dollar money with his own silly Spider-Man stand-in.

Meanwhile Sins of Sinister has Gillen shit all over all of the good will he's built up by taking the idea of an out existing for undoing the Nazification of the X-Men in the Krakoa era and crapping all over it to close off the loophole from being used as part of a reset down the line.

Sinister reveals that since day one of Krakoa, he tainted his DNA library of every known mutant with a bit of his own essences, so that when someone dies, they'll come back "Sinister-ized" with a red diamond on their foreheads as an evil version of themselves

Interesting out for SOME character derailment being undone? Well Gillen shuts the door on it by revealing that Hope fucked all those plans up since every time someone got resurrected, Hope as part of her role in the resurrection "circuit" unknowingly purged Sinister's taint from every mutant that came back.

So the events of #9-10 was part of a long con to kill Hope, plus Emma and Xavier and Exodus (IE the big time psychics) in one fell swoop to ensure that Hope came back via alternate means (IE Synch not being able to debug shit like Hope did for reasons) with the Sinister taint intact. And from her, all of the other resurrections too.

(Oh and Sinister has a new grand scheme: turn Earth/mutantkind into a Dominion type hivemind so they don't get consumed by the Phalanx Dominion hivemind first)

As such, you now have evil Xavier and Emma and Hope and Exodus doing all sorts of evil shit over several years, slowly growing their ranks until they lobotomize Krakoa itself (and killing Cypher) and blaming ORCHIS, with the Avengers being the missing ingredient to shut down the Forge and Nimrod once and for all. And them infecting humans with tainted X-Genes to turn them into Sinister-lites too. But that by the time they free Sinister from the pit (and drive Storm, the last X-Man untainted by Sinister into hiding after blowing up Mars) the now tainted Quiet Council, having conquered the Earth, decide to conquer the galaxy over Sinister's objections. And Sinister finding his save scumming machine having gone missing so he can't revert back knowing that his plan failed due to his tainted X-Men being beyond his control.
 
BTW I don't know what is more insulting this week:

Amazing Spider-Man/Sins of Sinister Spoilers

Amazing Spider-Man goes full on with making Ben the villain of Dark Web, complete with Janine turning on Maddie and getting her Scythe and handing it (and control over Limbo) to Ben. Granted, Maddie's a bit a dick in that she doesn't get the X-Men to help Ben with his problems, but given the shit given to her over the decades, I can forgive her and Wells for not dog piling on her. But still, Ben goes super saiyan and becomes "King Chasm" and everyone gathers to beat up Ben, even Rek-Rap, who again seems to be Wells chasing after that movie royalty dollar money with his own silly Spider-Man stand-in.

Meanwhile Sins of Sinister has Gillen shit all over all of the good will he's built up by taking the idea of an out existing for undoing the Nazification of the X-Men in the Krakoa era and crapping all over it to close off the loophole from being used as part of a reset down the line.

Sinister reveals that since day one of Krakoa, he tainted his DNA library of every known mutant with a bit of his own essences, so that when someone dies, they'll come back "Sinister-ized" with a red diamond on their foreheads as an evil version of themselves

Interesting out for SOME character derailment being undone? Well Gillen shuts the door on it by revealing that Hope fucked all those plans up since every time someone got resurrected, Hope as part of her role in the resurrection "circuit" unknowingly purged Sinister's taint from every mutant that came back.

So the events of #9-10 was part of a long con to kill Hope, plus Emma and Xavier and Exodus (IE the big time psychics) in one fell swoop to ensure that Hope came back via alternate means (IE Synch not being able to debug shit like Hope did for reasons) with the Sinister taint intact. And from her, all of the other resurrections too.

(Oh and Sinister has a new grand scheme: turn Earth/mutantkind into a Dominion type hivemind so they don't get consumed by the Phalanx Dominion hivemind first)

As such, you now have evil Xavier and Emma and Hope and Exodus doing all sorts of evil shit over several years, slowly growing their ranks until they lobotomize Krakoa itself (and killing Cypher) and blaming ORCHIS, with the Avengers being the missing ingredient to shut down the Forge and Nimrod once and for all. And them infecting humans with tainted X-Genes to turn them into Sinister-lites too. But that by the time they free Sinister from the pit (and drive Storm, the last X-Man untainted by Sinister into hiding after blowing up Mars) the now tainted Quiet Council, having conquered the Earth, decide to conquer the galaxy over Sinister's objections. And Sinister finding his save scumming machine having gone missing so he can't revert back knowing that his plan failed due to his tainted X-Men being beyond his control.
The fuck are you complaining about re: SoS? It's off to a great start and the setup that led to it was great too.

The Dark Web stuff is pretty bad tho, yeah
 
Maybe I’m reaching while saying this, but I really do think that Gary Larson’s “The Far Side” is one of the most apolitical comics that I’ve ever read. I was never searching for politics to come out of it, but it really exemplifies the slice-of-life label to a tee.
 
To return to something I posted earlier upthread about the 80s and 90s, it's funny how many internet "cool guys" have this dismissive attitude towards late 80s/90s American comics, especially the "edgy" ones but there's a reason that stuff was huge back when US comics were actually relevant. Instead of realizing "cool shit" is what normal people want from super heroes the industry listened to the types who go "this stuff is just pubertal bravado". So enjoy not making money then, a-holes!

Not making money? Didn't the comic book market crash and Marvel went bankrupt in the 90s?

The 90s weren't all bad, but let's not go sucking Rob Liefelds cock again just because 'lol 90s comics' clickbait is easy to make.
 
The fuck are they doing to my boy Tim Drake in this new series. It reads like a teenage yaoi fangirl was hired to write it, and the art is repulsive. You have these awesome covers and then you look inside and it's actually, objectively terrible.
That comic only exists to try and milk some cash from fans nostalgic for the old Robin series. Talented writers and artists aren't likely to be interested in making a pale imitation of comics from 30 years ago.
 
Of men who I am surprised don't have a thread on here, Dan slott is the biggest one. Seriously it makes me wonder how a man who hates spider man so much has been one of the longest running writers for the web-headView attachment 4311140
Dan Slott isn't funny he's just sad if you ask me. He can write good Comics. The man wrote Superior Spiderman for Christ sake. Only to post the stupidest BS on twitter.
 
The fuck are you complaining about re: SoS? It's off to a great start and the setup that led to it was great too.

The Dark Web stuff is pretty bad tho, yeah
I think it's more that the Krokoa stuff has just gone on for too long and Gay Sinister is more of a gag character than a villain. He's grating and people would probably be cool with shit like Sinister Clones of people if that basically wasn't Krokoa already.

Yeah, and it's shit

It's got like one good moment, the purse joke.

Everything else in Superior Spider-Man is TRASH
Superior Spider-Man was just fucking boring and creepy for a while. Otto from the 70's and 80's was not Slott's Otto, who basically was his self-insert. Otto originally was what Peter Parker wanted to be, but with the confidence he lacked. The brain damage just made him evil. He's basically just a Phineas Gage type deal. Slott made him into some fat faggot with a tragic background who's dad bullied him. Then you have to rape by deception and fucking a midget.
 
Superior could've been an okay-ish arc but stretching it into an on-going that went on for, what, 30 or so issues, was absolutely moronic. Everyone had to act like a total retard for it to work (MJ could easily pick her her husband out of the clones during the Clone Saga but consistently fell for Otto acting like a maniac in Peter's body; don't give me that 'soulmates' crap, either, because that was a retarded copout for shitty writing), a constant string of coincidences acting in Otto's favor had to happen ("You're acting strange. Let's use our mind scanner to see what's up- oh, never mind, the tech guy who works it isn't in today, I guess we'll just trust you"), and Otto's characterization didn't even jive with Slott's own writing of the character in previous arcs.

Slott is a hack that makes Howard Mackie seem like a good writer in comparison. He's pretty much a modern day Terry Kavanagh, expect the industry eventually realized Kavanagh sucked whereas Slott has apparently sucked the right dicks to allow him to constantly fail upwards.
 
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Of men who I am surprised don't have a thread on here, Dan slott is the biggest one. Seriously it makes me wonder how a man who hates spider man so much has been one of the longest running writers for the web-headView attachment 4311140
...I had managed to forget he exist, i did not need to remember he exist
 
I have two questions: 1) If someone was to read the Pre-Crisis Earth-1 comics where would be the best point to start chronologically?
2) Besides 52 has there been anything good post Identity Crisis made by DC Comics?
 
If someone was to read the Pre-Crisis Earth-1 comics where would be the best point to start chronologically?
Depends on how far back you wanna start. If you want to start from the very beginning then I wouldn't really know, but recently I've been reading some Pre-Crisis stuff and decided to start with Justice League #100 and have been enjoying it. The 1970s seems to be when DC finally realized Marvel's popularity wasn't some anomaly and that they were here to stay, so DC began to crib their style slightly and started to put a bit more emphasis on story arcs, drama, continuity, and the like.
 
How hard can it be to write a comicbook? Seriously, it's basically just official fanfiction. You can't possibly fuck up so hard but somehow the entire industry is killing itself in that department.
 
I have two questions: 1) If someone was to read the Pre-Crisis Earth-1 comics where would be the best point to start chronologically?
2) Besides 52 has there been anything good post Identity Crisis made by DC Comics?
2) The overall Geoff Johns era of Green Lantern was good. Morrison's Batman was good. Also Morrison's, Seven Soldiers of Victory is one of my favorite things. The Blue Beetle (Jaime) original run was great. I liked the Detective Comics era when it was about Batwoman, I don't remember the writer but it was drawn by J. H. Williams III (but then I like anything drawn by him).
After the new52, the Superman Rebirth thing, when they introduced Jon and they were a family living in a small town, that was great too. The New52 runs of Animal Man and Swamp Thing were good, even if the Rotworld crossover wasn't all that it could have been.

How hard can it be to write a comicbook? Seriously, it's basically just official fanfiction. You can't possibly fuck up so hard but somehow the entire industry is killing itself in that department.
It's ego, basically.
-People who think they're above it so they write subversively and hate the audience
-People who want to leave their mark on the books and characters, so they do drastic shit no one wants; sometimes it works, some things do need a twist of the screw sometimes, but mostly they don't
-People who think of themselves as morally superior, so they insert their pet issues (and ofthen themselves!) into the stories

There's other factors but
Yeah I'm going with ego
 
How hard can it be to write a comicbook? Seriously, it's basically just official fanfiction. You can't possibly fuck up so hard but somehow the entire industry is killing itself in that department.
A big problem is people in comics now didn't grow up with them and when they say they're fans, they just mean they watched some movies, or they heard about the character and thought they were interesting. For example, on tumblr ten years ago, there was a woman who wanted to write a She-Hulk series but admitted to never having read the books or knowing anything about the law, she just liked the idea of a tall lady superhero lawyer. It probably would have been just like the She-Hulk show that came out recently.
 
Was watching Strange Brain Parts livestream and he said he has a 2 year old Authority video he can't bring himself to do because of all of Warren Ellis' victims. Am I missing something? He didn't rape anybody or do anything illegal, right? I thought his wrongdoing amounted to telling idiots(who would screw for a position) he could get them jobs. Whether he's slime or not doesn't really pertain to some movie Gunn might make in 5 years time.
 
Was watching Strange Brain Parts livestream and he said he has a 2 year old Authority video he can't bring himself to do because of all of Warren Ellis' victims. Am I missing something? He didn't rape anybody or do anything illegal, right? I thought his wrongdoing amounted to telling idiots(who would screw for a position) he could get them jobs. Whether he's slime or not doesn't really pertain to some movie Gunn might make in 5 years time.
I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't putting it out because Ellis still has friends who will ruin you for badmouthing him. His cancelation was more or less the newer crop of writers needing an excuse to oust him.
 
I might be wrong, but I think Ellis' bit of Stormwatch and his Authority run has been felt in a lot of comics since. His Ironman had some dumb stuff, but the idea of 'just a man in just a suit not being enough to keep up with posthumans, so he jumps the gap' narrative felt interesting even if Mallen was generic as fuck. Newuniversal was delightful imo.
 
Was watching Strange Brain Parts livestream and he said he has a 2 year old Authority video he can't bring himself to do because of all of Warren Ellis' victims. Am I missing something? He didn't rape anybody or do anything illegal, right? I thought his wrongdoing amounted to telling idiots(who would screw for a position) he could get them jobs. Whether he's slime or not doesn't really pertain to some movie Gunn might make in 5 years time.
I don't think he's been accused of raping anyone. He's been accused of "sexual coercion" and gaslighting. He seems like a creep but some of the accusations are so vague I'm baffled as to what happened. Ellis and the women involved are working on a "guided transformative justice process", whatever that means.

He doesn't have the kind of power he had, but I believe he's doing some comics work in 2023. I'm skeptical that The Authority is actually going to get made, as they probably don't want bad publicity that comes along with Ellis, but who knows. They're still moving forward with the Ezra Miller Flash movie after all.
 
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