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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
What about their mom that have to fork out the cash? You have to factor in the huge amount of teens that buy into this shit but have no money on their own.
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It starts way earlier than that. You have nine year olds who want high end components and vanity parts because they get advertised on streamer channels. Not that they need them, since the most they'll wind up doing is running Gachalife, fortnite, or minecraft.

Some parents will without question shell out the cash for a build like that. It's why stuff like headsets can run up to 300-400 dollars and feature LED lights, cat ears, and other shit that don't help performance. And this is on top on already having a smartphone or ipad.

It's no different than kids wanting brand name clothes or other shit because it's popular or fashionable. It's just there's a large layer of practicality behind these devices other than fashion that they're probably not going to utilize. But this has always kind of been a thing because companies like Alienware have existed for long time that had expensive pre-builts in vanity cases.

There's a whole market of low end imitators that exist for shit like this.
 
Marissa Moira said:
It starts way earlier than that. You have nine year olds who want high end components and vanity parts because they get advertised on streamer channels. Not that they need them, since the most they'll wind up doing is running Gachalife, fortnite, or minecraft.

Some parents will without question shell out the cash for a build like that. It's why stuff like headsets can run up to 300-400 dollars and feature LED lights, cat ears, and other shit that don't help performance. And this is on top on already having a smartphone or ipad.

It's no different than kids wanting brand name clothes or other shit because it's popular or fashionable. It's just there's a large layer of practicality behind these devices other than fashion that they're probably not going to utilize.

There's a whole market of low end imitators that exist for shit like this.
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That doesn't make it okay or reflect on the typical consumer.

Not everybody has disposable money TO splurge on consoles. That's how the PS3 flopped its first years, remember?
 
Marissa Moira said:
It starts way earlier than that. You have nine year olds who want high end components and vanity parts because they get advertised on streamer channels. Not that they need them, since the most they'll wind up doing is running Gachalife, fortnite, or minecraft.
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Yes, I know mothers like that. Their kids want the RGB keyboard, they get the cheap one, they want the RGB 1000 click mouse, they get the cheap one, and they are happy! They want... they're not going to get some outrageously expensive Sony monitor. Guess how the GPU/CPU/RAM inflation affected them? They didn't fork up big bucks for a 3060 at thrice it's price.
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
Yes, I know mothers like that. Their kids want the RGB keyboard, they get the cheap one, they want the RGB 1000 click mouse, they get the cheap one, they want... they're not going to get some outrageously expensive Sony monitor.
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They're priced similarly to other gaming components. Samsung makes gaming monitors that cost a couple grand.

There's budget options for the headsets but I think with Bravia already serving the purpose of budget screens, is why you're only seeing the higher end models under the in zone brand. Them pushing inzone on evo means it could make it appeal to a few demographics, and if it works and gains wide appeal there might be more affordable options offered later on.
 
Marissa Moira said:
They're priced similarly to other gaming components. Samsung makes gaming monitors that cost a couple grand.

There's budget options for the headsets but I think with Bravia already serving the purpose of budget screens, is why you're only seeing the higher end models under the in zone brand. Them pushing inzone on evo means it could make it appeal to a few demographics, and if it works and gains wide appeal there might be more affordable options offered later on.
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Well to counter that, how well is Bravia doing?
Second thing, moms aren't going to spend that money when [child] gets a hard price limit on what they can get.
Third thing, maybe they could market them as high-end prestige monitors. But beef wellington, despite its price and quality, doesn't generate the revenue of onion rings and french fries. I don't think Sony is in the Eizo position ready to sell monitors to gamers or something like that.

Sony is getting into a niche high-end market when they should focus on other things.
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
Well to counter that, how well is Bravia doing?
Second thing, moms aren't going to spend that money when [child] gets a hard price limit on what they can get.
Third thing, maybe they could market them as high-end prestige monitors. But beef wellington, despite its price and quality, doesn't generate the revenue of onion rings and french fries. I don't think Sony is in the Eizo position ready to sell monitors to gamers or something like that.

Sony is getting into a niche high-end market when they should focus on other things.
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Well I went looking for some numbers and their TV business is massive.

It is the world's largest player in the premium TV market for a television of at least 55 inches (140 centimeters) with a price higher than $2,500 as well as second largest TV brand by market share and, as of 2020, the third largest television manufacturer in the world by annual sales figures.[14][15][16][17]
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The Inzone brand isn't taking away resources from anything Playstation related it's just an expansion of their already existing TV business. The factory they're building in japan will seemingly cover parts used from their electronics to game consoles.

Also their Horizon TV series is apparently starting filming and it's supposed to be up there in terms of production values and cost. They're calling the first season Horizon 2074 because it's part flashback and part of the current timeline. The Flashback parts I guess are to stretch the budget because they're supposed to involve the US Military operations that took place before Zero Dawn and are supposed to cover the rise and fall of modern society(so shit that can be filmed in Real Life Canada to keep costs down). Much like the game did with scanning data points. I'm going to imagine that the Machines are going to be used sparingly much like the dinosaurs were in the first Jurassic Park.

Sony is estimated to be worth anywhere from 130 billion to 200 billion USD, and they're seemingly putting every part of the company into revolving around games. Even Crunchyroll is going to act in the service of games in the future.
 
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Sometimes I don't know if this is the Sony hate thread or the Sony trial thread and Marissa Moira has been taking time out for over a year now while on Sony's defense team to argue with people on the internet to defend their clients honor.
 
OJ Simpson said:
Sometimes I don't know if this is the Sony hate thread or the Sony trial thread and Marissa Moira has been taking time out for over a year now while on Sony's defense team to argue with people on the internet to defend their clients honor.
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I wouldn't say Moira is good example of this at all, but at the very least he attempts to be someone who thinks differently from most posters here and discusses topics from another point of view, so this place doesn't delve into too much of an echo chamber (not like it's a big problem here, but it can be with other threads on the forum) and he unintentionally incentivises posters to do proper fact checking when making claims, even though most of the time it's to one-up him or call him out on bullshit statements, at least we're not making random shit up.
 
Flavius Anthemius said:
I wouldn't say Moira is good example of this at all, but at the very least he attempts to be someone who thinks differently from most posters here and discusses topics from another point of view, so this place doesn't delve into too much of an echo chamber (not like it's a big problem here, but it can be with other threads on the forum) and he unintentionally incentivises posters to do proper fact checking when making claims, even though most of the time it's to one-up him or call him out on bullshit statements, at least we're not making random shit up.
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I get what you are saying and I do relate as I think the biggest problems with this sub-forum and other sub-forums is the threads become echo chambers. For example, I don’t bother with the Apex Legends thread because I always get downvoted when I’m not entirely critical of the game. The Reddit mentality exists here in Games.

Concerning this thread, there have been other posters with some support for Sony and they haven’t been dog piled. Like I can concede Sony’s Bravia TV line is known for very good image quality just is prohibitively expensive. There have been posters making up nonsense to fuel the Sony hate and for the most part people contradict them or don’t bother with their posts. When it comes to our resident diehard Sony Sister, they have come in here and essentially argued against the laws of physics like a schizo and have been downright condescending when proven wrong. He has completely taken the thread off the rails and has been bad faith actor the entire time.
 
ellroy said:
There have been posters making up nonsense to fuel the Sony hate and for the most part people contradict them or don’t bother with their posts. When it comes to our resident diehard Sony Sister, they have come in here and essentially argued against the laws of physics like a schizo and have been downright condescending when proven wrong. He has completely taken the thread off the rails and has been bad faith actor the entire time.
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Calling me a bad faith actor is really pushing it

@ellroy you may not realize it, but a ton of stuff I post here is in not in total seriousness and I have played things up with specific members because we're part of the same chat chains. It's not in bad faith, it's people just shooting the shit.
 
Marissa Moira said:
@ellroy you may not realize it, but a ton of stuff I post here is in not in total seriousness and I have played things up with specific members because we're part of the same chat chains. It's not in bad faith, it's people just shooting the shit.
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^same energy
 
What if Marissa Moira is actually a Xbox gamer this entire time and the Playstation Knight Protector gimmick is merely an ruse?

I think we've been trolled boys and girls. Now, to facilitate proper discussion, this chart here explains how Playstation is winning and you're all gay:















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Marissa Moira said:
Calling me a bad faith actor is really pushing it

@ellroy you may not realize it, but a ton of stuff I post here is in not in total seriousness and I have played things up with specific members because we're part of the same chat chains. It's not in bad faith, it's people just shooting the shit.
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Damn, dude, you're right. We got epically trolled. You won, you can leave now.
 
Milwaukee Macho Man said:
It's okay guys, PS5 will finally have a hit on the charts when GTA VI releases.
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It warms my heart to see a rumored God of War Ragnarok delay being given the same autistic screeching chorus that a Zelda delay does.

Series has really moved up in the world, if people gave that much of a shit when Ascension was released they probably would have burned the studio down.
 
I’ll never forgive Sony for not making the original PS3 backwards compatible. As far as I know, there are versions that are backwards compatible, but I’m not sure which.
 
Xolanite said:
I’ll never forgive Sony for not making the original PS3 backwards compatible. As far as I know, there are versions that are backwards compatible, but I’m not sure which.
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The launch edition (what's known as Fat PS3's) were fully backwards compatible at the time with PS1 and PS2. The Slims were not because they had to cost cut heavily due to the bad launch.
 
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