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The VR community is already a niche though, and in that niche only VR chat seems to boast big numbers.
A lot of devs are experimenting with cinematic stories or simulators in VR, but it seems the one thing nerds want is ERPing with ludicrous virtual bodies
Yeah I was going to say something similar, the community is small and the only real big thing is VR Chat, VR needs something that will put it on the map that's an equivalent to any of the other long standing game series. Like you have nothing on VR that would have an effect on the platform like Halo had for Xbox for example, where Halo became the main reason to go online for Xbox and essentially started game services for consoles which lead to an overall industry change in direction. You need a game that will make people purchase VR and then use it's features for other games. Like Xbox wasn't the first, you had the Gamecube, PS2, and Dreamcast who dabbled in it, but none of their games drove people to going all in to the online ecosystem.

VR still feels very much like a frontier still and not an established part of something.
 
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The VR community is already a niche though, and in that niche only VR chat seems to boast big numbers.
A lot of devs are experimenting with cinematic stories or simulators in VR, but it seems the one thing nerds want is ERPing with ludicrous virtual bodies
the community is small
PS5 sales are at around 25 million
Quest 2 has sold around 15 million units

Please continue to tell us all that the VR Market is niche and the people who actually care about it don't know what the fuck they want and another boring 4K daddy simulator is what will finally make VR a mainstay at 600 dollars.

Also the idea that all anyone plays on VR is chat is fucking ridiculous. Imagine completely ignoring stuff like Blade and Sorcery, Pavlov, Boneworks/Bonelab and Beat Saber.
 
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PS5 sales are at around 25 million
Quest 2 has sold around 15 million units

Please continue to tell us all that the VR Market is niche and the people who actually care about it don't know what the fuck they want and another boring 4K daddy simulator is what will finally make VR a mainstay at 600 dollars.

Also the idea that all anyone plays on VR is chat is fucking ridiculous. Imagine completely ignoring stuff like Blade and Sorcery, Pavlov, Boneworks/Bonelab and Beat Saber.
But what are people using Quest 2 for? As far as I can see, 297 people are playing Blade & Sorcery on steam right now, Beat Saber is 640, VRChat is 15 000.
 
But what are people using Quest 2 for? As far as I can see, 297 people are playing Blade & Sorcery on steam right now, Beat Saber is 640, VRChat is 15 000.
"On Steam"

You do realize that the majority of Quest 2 users are not using Steam as their primary game launcher, correct?

I'd also raise you this question. What are people playing on PSVR right now?

I mean, I get you guys desperately want to ruin VR gaming just like you want to ruin single player gaming but I don't think it's going to happen at a 600 dollar price point on top of the 500 dollar PS5.
 
"On Steam"

You do realize that the majority of Quest 2 users are not using Steam as their primary game launcher, correct?

I'd also raise you this question. What are people playing on PSVR right now?

I mean, I get you guys desperately want to ruin VR gaming just like you want to ruin single player gaming but I don't think it's going to happen at a 600 dollar price point on top of the 500 dollar PS5.
Why would the preference of Quest 2 users differ wildly from their proprietary launcher compared to Steam? You've neglected to actually prove that player numbers in any VR game can compete with the social hub thing.
Also I'm not approving, I'm simply pointing out the state of the platform. VR is still just a niche with its main appeal among consumers being social interaction. We're still waiting for the game to surpass the VRChat scene
 
Why would the preference of Quest 2 users differ wildly from their proprietary launcher compared to Steam? You've neglected to actually prove that player numbers in any VR game can compete with the social hub thing.
Also I'm not approving, I'm simply pointing out the state of the platform. VR is still just a niche with its main appeal among consumers being social interaction. We're still waiting for the game to surpass the VRChat scene
And what social gatherings VRChat is used for is stuff like this:
 
Why would the preference of Quest 2 users differ wildly from their proprietary launcher compared to Steam? You've neglected to actually prove that player numbers in any VR game can compete with the social hub thing.
Also I'm not approving, I'm simply pointing out the state of the platform. VR is still just a niche with its main appeal among consumers being social interaction. We're still waiting for the game to surpass the VRChat scene
Using this logic, you could argue that not a single fucking game has surpassed Netflix on Playstation. VR Chat isn't a fucking game it's a free application FFS.

But you're right, there probably won't be a game to surpass the VRChat scene. Why would a lesser Horizon side game or another VR Resident Evil/No Man's Sky suddenly change that?
 
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Using this logic, you could argue that not a single fucking game has surpassed Netflix on Playstation. VR Chat isn't a fucking game it's a free application FFS.

Also, you are aware that VRChat doesn't actually require a VR headset to use...right?
Netflix being the most popular app on playstation is simply indicative of another issue with the current gaming market, just as VRChat being the most popular usage of VR gear is indicative of another issue.
The fact that VRChat doesn't require a VR headset is simply one of the factors that makes it more popular than other VR software.
If your previously mentioned competitor titles were to somehow be more popular among VR owners, then only about 3% of VRChat users would have to be owners of VR gear.
I don't get why you're being so obtuse, if you want to move the VR scene away from being mostly used for social stuff you would first need to acknowledge the issue, you can't just put fingers in your ear and yell.
 
Using this logic, you could argue that not a single fucking game has surpassed Netflix on Playstation. VR Chat isn't a fucking game it's a free application FFS.

But you're right, there probably won't be a game to surpass the VRChat scene. Why would a lesser Horizon side game or another VR Resident Evil/No Man's Sky suddenly change that?
How could you skip mentioning flight simulators? VR has been the biggest thing in that space since TrackIR. Granted the flight sim people are a very small group to begin with, VR is a perfect application for those games.
 
To my complete (non) surprise, it appears any worthwhile discussion about Sony's legitimate shortcomings such as the way it mismanaged its film studios (cancelling Spiderman 4, all but completely cucking out to Marvel, shitcanning Tartakovsky's Popeye etc.), purposefully sunk its handheld operation that could have been so much more, did nothing to aid its hardware shortage that it has now faced for 2 years and its mass killing of dev studios and their franchises left, right, and centre during the 2010s (see: Bizarre Creations, Evolution Studios, United Front Games, many more) has been all but completely hijacked by the same frothing-at-the-mouth fanboys that made it all but impossible to speak critically of certain rival brands on 4/8chan without being accused of coming from 100 different websites for not sharing the same groupthink.

You only need to go back a handful of pages to see walls of whataboutism with little to no sources and just straight up sperging about IPs and sales figures and advertising budgets without dropping any hard evidence to supplement those statements.
 
Sony has implemented a default filter for shovelware. So it'll still allow shovelware but will give you a filter to avoid it?
It's going to depend what type of third party support, Microsoft is usually left out(either by their direction intentionally or not) of a lot of ports that the Switch and playstation get.

For example NIS will make Xbox ports, but they're a rarity. Xbox tends to be more direct what types of games they want on their system and what they don't want. There's been a few articles written on how they support their brand images.
If third parties were smart, they'd allow their game to amass a large audience through ports and certification.
 
I'll repeat what I said earlier, as a PS5 owner I am happy with it but that's largely due to the circumstances of when I bought it. Firstly, I had never owned a PS4 so it was basically a Super PS4 Pro to me as far as what games I would be playing. A number of the PS4 exclusives I wanted to get it for have since gone to or are imminently going to PC. Secondly, at the time it was much cheaper than trying to make any significant upgrades to my PC. Since the crypto crash this is no longer true. A 3060 Ti is now about the same price as a PS5 is. Despite my satisfaction with it if I was still without one I don't think I'd make the purchase now. It really depends on your circumstances. If you already have either a PS4 or a beefy PC with room to grow then probably not. The thing is lacking in true exclusives to its name since we're still in the cross-gen era even two years later. Great hardware for the price, though.

Edit: Also, if you do get one watch out for your DualSense controller. Clicking the sticks consistently in the upward direction is enough to make it start drifting apparently.
If japanese imports don't scare you, you should consider getting Earth Defense Force 6


As much as I love this game franchise, getting a PS5 just for ONE game (and nothing else afterwards) is too expensive for me, whereas the Switch is my go-to device for everything japanese, asian & indie.
 
Tried it once at my sister's house, it's a neat concept, but the songlist is fucking terrible. Only played the crab meme song and nothing else.
Can’t you put any song on it, or is that only for the PC version? I constantly get recommended videos showing whatever the latest meme song is.
 
Shut the fuck up nigger. No one missed you and no one wants you here.
I do.
and if it's only to keep this thread from crawling up it's own ass and devolve into an "LOL SONY LMAO" reddit-tier circlejerk like last month.

remember, you don't have to reply, and if you can't handle that just put him on ignore and be done with it.

But to the question if you are foolish. PS5 will be able to play pretty much any game for the next 5+ years (outside Xbox only console games) and will be cheaper than any PC that can do that right now.
that's only if you never ever buy ps+ and only get your games from CEX for 5 bongbucks.
and once the new hardware generation rolls around you better hope your shit is compatible, most importantly hardware; good luck using your dualsense if sony wants to sell you the shiny new dualsense 2 for $100 a pop.
in the long run PC will always win out, not to mention if you want more than a single application device shackled to a walled garden (unless you use it as a streaming box, because less and less people care about physical).

Tried it once at my sister's house, it's a neat concept, but the songlist is fucking terrible. Only played the crab meme song and nothing else.
tell her to grab synth riderz and noodle manager.
bonus points for never breaking custom content on updates.

Holy shit you're retarded, VR itself is a game changer to how you approach games as a whole. It's not supplementary and you often have to make extensive changes to game design to prevent players from getting sick or breaking the game and shattering the illusion itself. Also, you don't need a valve index to play on PCVR, you can buy a cheap WMR headset for $200 bucks and while it's not as comfy as the Index or has the best controllers, it will get the job done. Plus Meta themselves have steamrolled the PCVR market with the Quest 2, so you definitely don't need a Index unless you want the best.
even if you go fill deep dive (which none of us will see anyway) there is no magical super special genre-mix or killer app that will make VR in it's current form more than an enthusiast application. why the fuck would casual bob want to buy a VR headset? for 3d zoom calls? 3d porn? the same game he already played but now with a wagglan gimmick? what's next, you expect everyone to buy a treadmill, because without fucking deep dive (or renting an empty warehouse) you'll still be more or less stationary and you'll know it?

stop talking out of your ass about shit you have no clue about, "extensive game design changes" means fuck all. what you gonna say when they figure out how to trick the body (not to mention it only applies to a certain percentage of users anyway) and nothing changes, because there IS nothing that can change, even if you minimize the form factor. for the same fucking reason people don't play an RTS with a fight stick.
I get being enthusiastic about VR, but that's just dumb as fuck.
 
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