Sonic The Hedgehog Games

[Newcomer 42]

SEGA that demanded Sticks be replaced with Blaze

Source? Sounds like drama.

 

[Pixy]

Source? Sounds like drama.

It got as far as the final draft.

 

[Nguyen Van Phuoc]

It got as far as the final draft.
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They should’ve removed Big instead

 

[Newcomer 42]

Wow, that's pretty much the Commie Move. Also, as expected the gender restricted for guys attire looks dumb during winter. The chameleon here at least has a big enough piece.

 

[Cave Fisher]

I can totally see it, too. Whisper's gameplay would be Avatar 2.0, and Tangle's tail abilites look like they could be accomplished by reskinning the Werehog grab abilities from Sonic Unleashed. Not only are they gameplay compatible, but Sonic Team could even be lazy and implement them by copy-pasting stuff from previous Hedgehog Engine games. Ian knew exactly what he was doing here.

Whisper will probably be used as their "out" for if they ever wanna reuse the Wispon mechanics instead of making more Wisp stuff, but don't wanna acknowledge the avatar, which near as I can tell, seems to be exactly what they did in IDW when they initially played her up as this cool secret sniper who saved Silver of all people during the war and based her off a design from Forces.

It got as far as the final draft.
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Ian having both Sonic and Amy respectively go "Man, it sure would be cool if my good friend who's totally canon, Sticks The Jungle Badger was on this adventure with us" being followed by Sega jumping in at basically the last second to replace specifically her with Blaze in artwork out of like 50 different characters when even the IDW ocs are there is still pretty funny, they do NOT want to touch Boom ever again.
(Also the series' consistent rule on the boys not being allowed to wear pants gets pretty weird in situations like this because either those open jackets are useless, or they just don't mind 95% of their body being cold, but their arms and backs are where the draw the line)

 

[NerdShamer]

Also the series' consistent rule on the boys not being allowed to wear pants gets pretty weird in situations like this

At least Sonic and Shadow has an excuse for not wearing them.

 

[Pixy]

(Also the series' consistent rule on the boys not being allowed to wear pants gets pretty weird in situations like this because either those open jackets are useless, or they just don't mind 95% of their body being cold, but their arms and backs are where the draw the line)

Think of it like those Looney Tunes characters, the logic is constantly inconsistent.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Whisper will probably be used as their "out" for if they ever wanna reuse the Wispon mechanics instead of making more Wisp stuff, but don't wanna acknowledge the avatar, which near as I can tell, seems to be exactly what they did in IDW when they initially played her up as this cool secret sniper who saved Silver of all people during the war and based her off a design from Forces.

Man, poor avatar, not only was forgotten about, but gender-swapped... IF he'll be used ever again. As for Whisper, yeah, she could be that. The duck dumb-face bad guy could be a boss type with switching mechanics, and angry cunt and wet fox shota are literal clones of Sonic and Tails respectively.

an having both Sonic and Amy respectively go "Man, it sure would be cool if my good friend who's totally canon, Sticks The Jungle Badger was on this adventure with us" being followed by Sega jumping in at basically the last second to replace specifically her with Blaze in artwork out of like 50 different characters when even the IDW ocs are there is still pretty funny, they do NOT want to touch Boom ever again.

Funny how that cartoon is still leagues better in writing than anything of Sonic for the last decade.
And yeah, Boom seems to have been memory-holed.

(Also the series' consistent rule on the boys not being allowed to wear pants gets pretty weird in situations like this because either those open jackets are useless, or they just don't mind 95% of their body being cold, but their arms and backs are where the draw the line)

That was my point. Sometimes full body outfits are excused, but it's inconsistent. I'm not sure why this rule was made. The not-enby thing from the latest IDW issue has pants, but I guess that one counts as a full-body outfit.
Why standarize Mobians to this point, when they don't even have an unique name for their species?

At least Sonic and Shadow has an excuse for not wearing them.

Which one? There was Ray the flying squirrel who could fly with a jacket on because of comicbook physics.

 

[StoneKnightMan]

so guys. earlier this month on november 15th was the 20th anniversary of sonic rush.
i honestly like those games. sonic rush, sonic rush adventure, and sonic colors' DS version were great and were sonic at his finest on the Nintendo DS, so fans call these three games the sonic DS Trilogy or sonic rush trilogy due to the same gameplay and on the ds. and the games still hold up today. sonic rush was the game that first introduced sonic's boost ability, which became a staple in his abilities in the series like sonic unleashed.

so in celebration of sonic rush's 20th anniversary. they revealed early concept art of blaze the cat on twitter and other social media platforms.

https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1989740176189374579

also. lets talk about the voice actresses that voiced blaze the cat!

starting in sonic rush, and sonic 06. blaze was voiced by Erica Schroeder. an anime and 4kids voice actor just like jason griffith, dan green, lisa ortiz and mike pollock.
and believe it or not, She also voiced Shahra in sonic and the secret rings and wave the swallow in sonic riders and its sequel zero gravity!

she's famous for voicing:
various characters in the pokemon anime, most of all nurse joy. she also voiced pokemon like wobbufett. and also uxie, azelf, and mesprit in the sinnoh saga.
in yugioh, she voiced Mana/Dark Magician Girl and started voicing Mai Valentine in season 4. she also voiced Fonda Fontaine in season 1 of GX, and Akiza Izinski in 5Ds
in one piece, she voiced monkey d luffy in the 4kids dub, and stussy in the funimation dub
and Lyserg Diethel in shaman king,



starting in 2010 for sonic colors. blaze was now being voiced by Laura Bailey. who is married to travis willingham, the voice actor for knuckles at that time. one of my favorite voice actors!
and laura bailey also started voicing omachao as well.

She's famous for voicing:
Lust in fullmetal alchemist
Maka Albarn in Soul Eater.
kid trunks in dragon ball
Rayne. the main protagonist of Bloodrayne. one of her popular roles and her first video game role.
Serana in The Elder Scroll V: Skyrim's Dawnguard DLC. the best follower in the whole game.
Rise Kujikawa in Persona 4. and also voiced the female protagonist in persona 3 portable.
in the fire emblem series, she voiced lucina in awakening and Palla in Echoes shadows of valentia
Raspberyl in Disgaea 3 absence of justice
Chun-li in street fighter 4, 5, and marvel vs capcom 3.
Christie in dead or alive 5.
Gemini Sunrise in Sakura wars: so long my love
catwoman in batman the telltale series
supergirl in injustice 2
Helena Harper in resident evil 6.
mary jane watson in playstation's Marvel's Spider Man games.
Abby in last of us part 2.
and black widow in various marvel stuff like marvel rivals

and starting in 2019 with team sonic racing and today. she is currently voiced by Erica Lindbeck. who also voices omachao. and another one of my favorite voice actors.

she's famous for voicing:
Loona in Helluva boss. one of her popular roles.
Elora in Arcane
Ritsuko Akagi in the Netflix version of neon genesis evangelion.
the princess in smiling friends.
Daki in Demon Slayer
Farnese in Berserk's terrible 2016 anime.
Sayaka Igarashi in Kakegurui
Celica in fire emblem echoes shadows of valentia. she also voices myrrh in heroes.
Futaba Sakura in persona 5. one of her most popular roles.
Cheveruse in genshin impact.
Peppermint in Hi-Fi Rush. great game!
Jessie in Final Fantasy VII Remake
Sophitia Alexandra in Soulcalibur VI
Cassie Cage in Mortal Kombat 11
Coco in Code Vein
Black Cat in Marvel's Spider Man 2.
Roll in Mega Man 11
Tera in Smite
Misty Olszewski, Meredith Stout, and Spider Murphy in Cyberpunk 2077
Sahori Itsukishima and Amabie in shin megami tensei V Vengeance.
Alexa, Ruele, and Destina in Epic Seven
Menat in street fighter V
and her recent role is Nora Anderson in Call of Duty black ops 7

blaze the cat is still favored by sonic fans today and sonic rush is still a great game to this day. i mean water palace came back in sonic generations on 3ds, and also came back as a track in sonic racing crossworlds.

 

[Newcomer 42]

It's a shame they barely do anything with Blaze anymore... Probably because she fills the same niche as Sonic, can fly and has a super mode. We can't have anyone making Sonic look bad, can't we?

 

[Celebrate Nite]

It's a shame they barely do anything with Blaze anymore... Probably because she fills the same niche as Sonic, can fly and has a super mode. We can't have anyone making Sonic look bad, can't we?

They would either have to give Sonic and co. reasons to go back into the Sol dimension, or give Blaze her own adventure.

Either that, or use her and Eggman Nega as some sort of pallet swap bonus content for the regular games with maybe extra content exclusive to them... like make her mode THE "Hard Mode"" or something, since that spot used to belong to Knuckles but not anymore.

 

[NerdShamer]

Either that, or use her and Eggman Nega as some sort of pallet swap bonus content for the regular games with maybe extra content exclusive to them... like make her mode THE "Hard Mode"" or something, since that spot used to belong to Knuckles but not anymore.

The fanbase wouldn't stop REEEING if the devs just gave Blaze an standalone adventure, but nobody else

 

[Friendly Primarina]

They would either have to give Sonic and co. reasons to go back into the Sol dimension, or give Blaze her own adventure.

That didn't stop them in '06. Nor did it stop them from bringing Silver in with zero explanation.

 

[Coolio55]

The fanbase wouldn't stop REEEING if the devs just gave Blaze an standalone adventure, but nobody else

Apart from Cream, she's pretty much the only "2nd-tier" character who hasn't already got one.
...unless Sonic 06 counts. I was counting it for Silver so I guess it applies to her too.

 

[Cave Fisher]

...unless Sonic 06 counts.

I mean, does it REALLY count if there's a theory that she's just a figment of Silver's imagination that's semi-believable purely because of how little she does?

 

[Buzz Killington]

The best part about IDW Sonic is anticipating when the plug will be pulled. I'd be surprised if they make it to 100 issues given IDW's financial dire straits. The only question then is what Sega decides to do next with the franchise, if they try to continue the series with another publisher or if they hit the reset button for a third time.

 

[Mr. Idiot]

I didn't like the movies that much, but they had the right idea redesigning it to be a more handheld gadget you could conceivably see him storing in his tails over this gigantic tablet he whips out of nowhere even though it's longer than his torso.
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I personally don't get bothered by them storing away/taking out objects larger than their torso's since they always do that with the Chaos Emeralds and Amy's hammer for examples, but I do agree that the movies' design on it is more appealing than the clunky tablet. (I kind of forgot it appeared in Unleashed first when for the longest time I thought it was a shoehorned in-gag item in Colors' cutscenes)

6- OBNOXIOUS references
i do not need to explain to you that ian flynn is notorious with his game references. but when the lore is so bad and you see a Sonic Forces reference where tails kneels down crying for sonic's help, it gets unbearably bad. you'll see it in every issue guaranteed, but i'll post only one that i find the worst.

This is why I genuinely think Flynn is a hack writer who will likely suffer a stroke if he can't insert a reference in his dialogue every now and then.
Sure there's been references here and there in games and other media prior to him taking the helm, but with Flynn you see it all the time.



Like there isn't any other media that spells it out to you that Tails used to get picked on.

In general the IDW comic does feel like a waste of space because it's being spearheaded by emotionally stunted retards who can only use personal politics as their writing source and it shows bigtime in the not-Tumblr softboi issue and their OC's in general.

I faintly recall a issue with the Sonic X-based comics where Eggman tries to ruin a date between Sonic and Amy at a theme park, only to get himself screwed over in the end. Why can't they replicate that kind of silly stuff since it wouldn't be out of character for Eggman to go through odd lengths to get under Sonic's skin or just be a humorous troll in general.

Point is, you can still write a good comic even with these mandates in place, but I should be thankful that they're on a tight leash because of it otherwise I'd shrug to think how they could further use the comic as their political mouthpiece.

 

[Pixy]

I faintly recall a issue with the Sonic X-based comics where Eggman tries to ruin a date between Sonic and Amy at a theme park, only to get himself screwed over in the end. Why can't they replicate that kind of silly stuff since it wouldn't be out of character for Eggman to go through odd lengths to get under Sonic's skin or just be a humorous troll in general.

Point is, you can still write a good comic even with these mandates in place, but I should be thankful that they're on a tight leash because of it otherwise I'd shrug to think how they could further use the comic as their political mouthpiece.

Flynn just doesn't have it in him anymore, given he wrote those comics. Haven't checked out Drogune yet to see what he does on his own though, maybe he's saving his best for his personal projects.

 

[Newcomer 42]

They would either have to give Sonic and co. reasons to go back into the Sol dimension, or give Blaze her own adventure.

Either that, or use her and Eggman Nega as some sort of pallet swap bonus content for the regular games with maybe extra content exclusive to them... like make her mode THE "Hard Mode"" or something, since that spot used to belong to Knuckles but not anymore.

I think Team Sonic doesn't know what to do with anyone who's not Sonic, as they already struggle what to do with the blue hog.

The fanbase wouldn't stop REEEING if the devs just gave Blaze an standalone adventure, but nobody else

But this might be the reason too.

Apart from Cream, she's pretty much the only "2nd-tier" character who hasn't already got one.
...unless Sonic 06 counts. I was counting it for Silver so I guess it applies to her too.

Poor Silver will never get his own game, ever and ever. Nor Amy Rose, but modern Amy Rose is pretty much a non character.
Knuckles got a half-game at least.

The best part about IDW Sonic is anticipating when the plug will be pulled. I'd be surprised if they make it to 100 issues given IDW's financial dire straits. The only question then is what Sega decides to do next with the franchise, if they try to continue the series with another publisher or if they hit the reset button for a third time.

I read somewhere that the deal is that there's a special event for issue n. 100 since next year is the 35th anniversary of Sanic, but I don't see IDW lasting that long. IMO I would have made a cheap anime with the franchise and improvise from there as Sonic X did, but no dice.

I personally don't get bothered by them storing away/taking out objects larger than their torso's since they always do that with the Chaos Emeralds and Amy's hammer for examples, but I do agree that the movies' design on it is more appealing than the clunky tablet. (I kind of forgot it appeared in Unleashed first when for the longest time I thought it was a shoehorned in-gag item in Colors' cutscenes)

It's a common cartoon gag, the Hammerspace. The Sonic species are honorary cartoon animals anyway.

This is why I genuinely think Flynn is a hack writer who will likely suffer a stroke if he can't insert a reference in his dialogue every now and then.
Sure there's been references here and there in games and other media prior to him taking the helm, but with Flynn you see it all the time.

He used to be better, but he tends to focus too much on drama, making characters act OOC to do so, or having literally whos show up and do the former. Sonic Frontier tried waay too hard to navel-gaze... But, since everyone is two-dimensional at best, it felt awkward. IDW Sonic has literally nothing going with it due to the mandates and the mainline games taking so long to get out, as they can't do shit that's not in a game, past or future one.

In general the IDW comic does feel like a waste of space because it's being spearheaded by emotionally stunted retards who can only use personal politics as their writing source and it shows bigtime in the not-Tumblr softboi issue and their OC's in general.

To be fair Flynn didn't write this one, and the issue touches standard themes of confronting your parents because of wanting to have your own way. Unfortunately, the subtext is clearly trannyism bullshit that is tolerated less and less every year, and that no sane kid can relate to. Fortunately SEGA stopped them in time from going with Them/they/Themself/xir with the literal snowflake character. IDW has an inconsistent tone, with all ages stuff co-existing with shock value themes that don't fit. At least Archie was for teenagers, and taught stuff that people could understand, like marital abuse, even if it was particularly unsubtle.
Funny and sad when Penders has better writing than you do.

I faintly recall a issue with the Sonic X-based comics where Eggman tries to ruin a date between Sonic and Amy at a theme park, only to get himself screwed over in the end. Why can't they replicate that kind of silly stuff since it wouldn't be out of character for Eggman to go through odd lengths to get under Sonic's skin or just be a humorous troll in general.

Point is, you can still write a good comic even with these mandates in place, but I should be thankful that they're on a tight leash because of it otherwise I'd shrug to think how they could further use the comic as their political mouthpiece.

The mandates weren't here back then, I believe, and Sonic X had better characters other than the annoying brat. No second-rate copies, no OCs, no xirs. Sonic X began as a regular anime with Sonic bolted on top and it shows.

Flynn just doesn't have it in him anymore, given he wrote those comics.

He's been writing for what, 20 years? It's understandable. He might be kicked out if IDW is to close up.

 

[NerdShamer]

Apart from Cream, she's pretty much the only "2nd-tier" character who hasn't already got one.

She had an entire chapter in Sonic Battle. It's exactly what you'd expect and it might be one of the harder parts of the game.