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Why did you like it, and do you use tretinoin too?
It felt pretty nice on my face. I used to have tretinoin but I haven't in years. I should probably get another from the dermatologist.
 
For those of you using Differin, did you have the purging effect? If so, how long did it last?

I re-started Differin a month ago after several months off, and I'm almost certain it broke me out. I'd never had such nasty, deep pimples even as a gross teenager; it was fucking disgusting and I felt shitty about myself. The big cystic ones are almost gone, but I have some persistent little clogged pores around my temples. According to the autists at Reddit, among other sources, retinoids can cause purging breakouts as cell turnover increases. They claim it can last for like 6 months, though.

My routine is as follows. I'm in my mid-30s, with ultra sensitive, dryish skin. When I say "ultra sensitive", I mean fucking everything stings or burns, and sometimes I get hives so badly they blister. My skin really hates being messed with at all, and sometimes it seems like the more shit I try to add to my routine, the worse I look, so obviously I add more shit in case the next thing is the magic bullet.

Morning:
Cleanse: Vanicream Gentle Facial Cleanser
Moisturize: Clinique Dramatically Different Moisturizing Lotion+, with 3-4 drops of an oil blend added if I'm feeling extra flaky (it's a blend of argan, sea buckthorn, rose hip, borage, and prickly pear seed oils)
Sunscreen: La Roche Posay Anthelios Mineral Light Fluid Sunscreen (which I don't love but am using up before returning to my preferred Supergoop Unseen Sunscreen)

Night:
Cleanse: Vanicream Gentle Facial Cleanser or PanOxyl 4% Benzoyl Peroxide Creamy Wash (2x weekly)
Moisturize: Klairs Rich Moist Soothing Cream with 3-4 drops of oil blend
Treatment: Differin, then Paula's Choice 10% Azelaic Acid Boost

Sometimes I throw some Aquaphor over the whole thing if I'm feeling virtuous.

Am I just impatient? Is it possible I'm using too much shit and making my skin angry? On the other hand, is there something obviously missing? I tried to peruse the SkincareAddiction subreddit but I felt like a fucking fossil and all the pseudoscience made me want to die in Minecraft.
 
For those of you using Differin, did you have the purging effect? If so, how long did it last?

I re-started Differin a month ago after several months off, and I'm almost certain it broke me out. I'd never had such nasty, deep pimples even as a gross teenager; it was fucking disgusting and I felt shitty about myself. The big cystic ones are almost gone, but I have some persistent little clogged pores around my temples. According to the autists at Reddit, among other sources, retinoids can cause purging breakouts as cell turnover increases. They claim it can last for like 6 months, though.

My routine is as follows. I'm in my mid-30s, with ultra sensitive, dryish skin. When I say "ultra sensitive", I mean fucking everything stings or burns, and sometimes I get hives so badly they blister. My skin really hates being messed with at all, and sometimes it seems like the more shit I try to add to my routine, the worse I look, so obviously I add more shit in case the next thing is the magic bullet.

Morning:
Cleanse: Vanicream Gentle Facial Cleanser
Moisturize: Clinique Dramatically Different Moisturizing Lotion+, with 3-4 drops of an oil blend added if I'm feeling extra flaky (it's a blend of argan, sea buckthorn, rose hip, borage, and prickly pear seed oils)
Sunscreen: La Roche Posay Anthelios Mineral Light Fluid Sunscreen (which I don't love but am using up before returning to my preferred Supergoop Unseen Sunscreen)

Night:
Cleanse: Vanicream Gentle Facial Cleanser or PanOxyl 4% Benzoyl Peroxide Creamy Wash (2x weekly)
Moisturize: Klairs Rich Moist Soothing Cream with 3-4 drops of oil blend
Treatment: Differin, then Paula's Choice 10% Azelaic Acid Boost

Sometimes I throw some Aquaphor over the whole thing if I'm feeling virtuous.

Am I just impatient? Is it possible I'm using too much shit and making my skin angry? On the other hand, is there something obviously missing? I tried to peruse the SkincareAddiction subreddit but I felt like a fucking fossil and all the pseudoscience made me want to die in Minecraft.
The Differin is likely not for you if it caused such a severe reaction. It may be a good idea to see an allergist (if not a dermatologist) if your skin is this sensitive.

Does your current routine sans Differin cause breakouts? Using several active ingredients (benzoyl perozide and azelaic acid) at the same time could have overly sensitized your skin and thrown off its pH.
 
The Differin is likely not for you if it caused such a severe reaction. It may be a good idea to see an allergist (if not a dermatologist) if your skin is this sensitive.

Does your current routine sans Differin cause breakouts? Using several active ingredients (benzoyl perozide and azelaic acid) at the same time could have overly sensitized your skin and thrown off its pH.
Shit, I was hoping it wasn't that. It did freak out at first, but it's looking better now. Maybe I'll quit the benzoyl peroxide and see if that helps.

I haven't had an allergist for years, but that's probably a good idea, too. I've always had ridiculously sensitive skin, but I never really thought about asking an allergist about it rather than derm.
 
Shit, I was hoping it wasn't that. It did freak out at first, but it's looking better now. Maybe I'll quit the benzoyl peroxide and see if that helps.

I haven't had an allergist for years, but that's probably a good idea, too. I've always had ridiculously sensitive skin, but I never really thought about asking an allergist about it rather than derm.
Sounds good. You might be allergic to fragrance, which is in damn near everything. Any chance you've had contact dermatitis before?
 
According to the autists at Reddit, among other sources, retinoids can cause purging breakouts as cell turnover increases. They claim it can last for like 6 months, though.
This is right, all retinoids do this. How was your experience with it before you stopped, and why did you stop?
But yea, check with an dermatologist, I really don't see how you are going to be sensitive from "nothing". You said you were sensitive before the Differin, the azelaic acid on its own doesn't do much and washing your face with benzoyl peroxide for a few minutes. The recommended use of benzoyl peroxide is short term contact. You should do it every day until the acne has perished though.

And can I ask why you don’t slap Aquaphor over the top each night? It really helps to make you less sensitive. Even though it doesn't help if you're allergic against lanolin, but then you have plain vaseline which doesn't contain allergens.
 
Sounds good. You might be allergic to fragrance, which is in damn near everything. Any chance you've had contact dermatitis before?
Oh, yes. I've found products that work fairly well for me at this point, but back in my younger days, I'd get contact dermatitis if I looked at my skin wrong. I have eczema, too, and use a strong prescription steroid ointment when it flares up. I've heard that there are better treatments now, but I've used the same steroid ointment since like 1993 and have no complaints. I avoid most fragrance because I think it's kind of gross and feel like it's better to be safe than sorry, although not all types seem to bother me. I don't know if you've heard of dermatographia, but I get that, too. Basically, I'm an atopic mess.

This is right, all retinoids do this. How was your experience with it before you stopped, and why did you stop?
But yea, check with an dermatologist, I really don't see how you are going to be sensitive from "nothing". You said you were sensitive before the Differin, the azelaic acid on its own doesn't do much and washing your face with benzoyl peroxide for a few minutes. The recommended use of benzoyl peroxide is short term contact. You should do it every day until the acne has perished though.

And can I ask why you don’t slap Aquaphor over the top each night? It really helps to make you less sensitive. Even though it doesn't help if you're allergic against lanolin, but then you have plain vaseline which doesn't contain allergens.
The answer to all your questions is laziness, really. I quit Differin because I moved and misplaced the tube. It was also winter here then, which means -40 degrees F/C and brutal winds, so I figured it would probably be better to quit using it anyway, because I wasn't convinced I was seeing results. However, after I quit, I started to notice more stubborn clogged pores and irregular texture, so I decided to start using it again because it's cheap, readily available, and I'm keen on the potential anti-aging benefits of a retinoid.

I'm trying to be more faithful about the Aquaphor application. I am a loser and have cats, and I hate the way their fur sticks to my lips and face after I slather it on, but I do see a difference when I use it. I'm off work today and am actually sitting around with a layer of it on my face. Since you're knowledgeable about this topic, do you happen to know offhand the difference between regular Aquaphor and the Aquaphor Baby stuff?I'm actually using the Baby version right now because my skin hates everything so much but if there's a meaningful difference, I'll pick up a tub of the regular stuff.

This concludes more shit than anyone wants to know about my largest organ. Thanks for your help, everyone.
 
I wasn't convinced I was seeing results.
Even tretinoin take about 6 months to a year for drastic differences, I don't know how long you used it for before quitting.
I'm keen on the potential anti-aging benefits of a retinoid.
The research isn't as good as on tretinoin, but Adapalene (the retinoid, Differin is just a brand name) do show potential and are able to fade sunspots.
I'm trying to be more faithful about the Aquaphor application. I am a loser and have cats, and I hate the way their fur sticks to my lips and face after I slather it on,
Don't say that, cats are way better companionship than humans. But yes, It's one of the reasons why I don't have cats. As the temptation to smush my face in their fur all the time is too big. And I get creeped out by hairless cats like Sphynx.
but I do see a difference when I use it. I'm off work today and am actually sitting around with a layer of it on my face.

do you happen to know offhand the difference between regular Aquaphor and the Aquaphor Baby stuff?
There is no difference as far as I know.
 
I just wanna know how any of yall can stick to a routine. Ive tried mutiple times but nothing ever sticks. Maybe its just the autism but damn it's hard.(:_(

I have dermatographia and dermitillomania, aka "skin-writing disease" (as tiktok calls it) and skin picking disease, and if anyone has experience dealing with either of those, please feel free to tell me how youve dealt with them.

While ive picked at my skin for my whole life, the dermatographia is a recent thing due to thyroid problems. While the disease(?) is pretty common, I happen to be on the very worst end of the spectrum. Most people who have it will just experience redness when the skin is scratched or picked. I am not that lucky however. I deal with constant itchiness, due to many things, from clothing being too tight to a speck of dirt on my bed. If I scratch, I get absolutely horrendous huge red welts that spread like wildfire, and itch more. I can deal with this normally. The main problem is my face. I havent gone out in public since this started a few months ago. One tiny itch on my nose can lead to my entire face being covered in these welts that can last for hours.
I was able to get doctor confirmation of both the thyroid issue and the skin issues, but the only thing they can really do is give me insane doses of antihistamines, which apparently have some shitty side effects.

If anyone knows a reliable way to help the redness/swelling, please tell me.
Anyway sorry if this is too serious or "clinical" for this thread lmao. Lemme try to add something that actually fits here.
A while back I got this cheap ass korean (I think the brand is CosRX) BHA "Blackhead Power Liquid" on amazon, and WOW I love it. Its the only product I used in my routine that visibly worked. The morning after I use it, the pores on my face look 10x smaller, its insane.
 
I got my 3rd C02 fraxel laser treatment today and my 1st ever botox injections on forehead lines. I bled like a stuck pig this time and the botox was more painful than I assumed it would be. My cosmetic doctor told me to consume plenty of zinc for the botox to be more effective and longer lasting.

I bought the Aveeno Oatmeal serum and cleanser and I highly recommend them for use on a rest day or to calm your skin. I also got the CeraVe moisturizer as recommended by multiple users here and it's light enough to not be greasy, even with the night version.

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I got my 3rd C02 fraxel laser treatment today and my 1st ever botox injections on forehead lines. I bled like a stuck pig this time and the botox was more painful than I assumed it would be.
Only gotten botox in the 11-line 2 times, but stopped doing it. As it only lasted for 1.5 month. The Ordinary Argireline solution works for much cheaper. Slapping on some pure lanolin seem to work when the vaseline doesn't.

I almost didn't feel anything when getting vascular lasers and the one CO2 laser. But the one time I got volite for my crhonic dry lips. That hurt like a motherfucker, didn't bleed though.
My cosmetic doctor told me to consume plenty of zinc for the botox to be more effective and longer lasting.
I wasn't told this, so good to know.
 
I have really bad rosacea (pustules and broken blood vessels in the cheeks) I use a cerave moisturizer and cleanser. I've also been keeping my diet clean and good. What has really helped me has been azelaic acid (10% over the counter). Just 3 days of usage and the redness along with pustules has gone down alot. I do also make sure to supplement probiotics, fish oil, zinc (and copper yes). I'm honestly astounded at how much this has impacted my face and the speed by which it's done so. My AM and PM routine is almost the same, cleanser, then azelaic acid, and moisturizer, (sunscreen in the AM if I know i'm gonna be out). If anyone else here has experience with rosacea I'd love to hear what's worked and what hasn't.
 
I learned something today.

Turns Out Those “Black Girl Freckles” Are Actually Dermatosis Papulosa Nigra

L'Oréal Blackett
Last Updated July 29, 2022, 2:57 AM

1659327890472.png Today, I counted 52 freckles on my face. Four more than last time. As someone who has taken more than a few selfies in my lifetime, I have spent more time closely inspecting my face than is perhaps considered healthy. But, this time I have a good reason. Similarly to freckles caused by exposure to sunlight and genetics, the small, splattering of small dark brown marks across my cheeks and temples came in gradually, in my early 20s, and grew more prominent after I went on holiday and I wasn’t as liberal with sunscreen as I should be. And, if you look more closely, these raised lesions across my face are not “freckles” at all.
I’ve heard a few names for them over the years: “beauty marks,” moles, sun spots and — via strangers who’ve commented on my pictures online — “Black girl freckles.”I didn’t know that they had an actual medical term until a random Google search for ‘those moles Black people get’ came up with the term dermatosis papulosa nigra (DPN). These skin lesions are most prominent in Black, Asian and Indigenous skin types, and most notably are the distinguishable features of actor Morgan Freeman.
In an even deeper dive into DPN online, I found content creator Lesley Buckle, otherwise known as Fresh Lengths on social media, who got her DPN removed using Electro Surgery in 2016. For a long time, she was my only reference (other than Morgan Freeman) who has talked about the skin condition, period. “I first noticed I had them as a teenager,” she tells Unbothered. “They can start developing around puberty. At first, they were small lumps but by the time I was 16 they were big clusters on my face, particularly around my cheeks and jaw. I had a lot on my neck and a few on my body too but it was the ones on my face that seemed to bother me. I think I started looking into removal as I was a little embarrassed when I was younger.”
“I didn’t know anyone around my age that had them, the only examples I knew were people that were older. My mum has DPN and her whole face was covered in them when I was younger and then there were older famous figures like Morgan Freeman,” Buckle shares. “My mum didn’t know much about them either and my dad had told me how they’d grown since he knew her (possibly after pregnancy). I thought that eventually my face would be covered in DPN too so that’s when I started looking into how to get them removed.”
Like Buckle, I’m becoming increasingly aware that DPN freckles can grow more prominent over time and appear at different points on the face. I don’t mind the ones on my face right now, but I really don’t want any more. So, should I get my ”Black girl freckles” removed? I asked dermatologists and aestheticians to weigh in.

What exactly is Dermatosis Papulosa Nigra (DPN) and are they something to worry about?


“Dermatosis papulose nigra (DPN) refers to small lesions that are similar to freckles but aren’t flat on the skin,” explains Bianca Estelle, a Harley Street-trained Skin Specialist, Clinical Trainer & Director and bea skincare founder. “The lesions are more raised and are seen as a variant of seborrheic keratosis (a non-cancerous skin growth) and can be the same colour as the skin but are often darker,” the specialist explains. The London-based medical aesthetician has DPN herself and explains that the harmless skin conditions tend to run in families. “The cause is unknown, but the condition runs in families, so I’d say that it’s largely genetic,” explains Estelle.

Dr Raj Arora, GP and aesthetic skin doctor for FOREO, also explains that the skin condition is mostly seen in women and on the face and neck. “The exact cause of DPN is unknown but there is thought to be a hereditary component,” Dr Arora tells Unbothered. “Around 50% of patients seeking treatment have a family history of the skin condition. Lesions typically begin to appear around adolescence and can increase in size and number as one gets older.”

Should I be concerned about DPN?


Aside from the fact that my DPN moles will likely increase in size as I get older (sigh…), I did wonder if, like melanoma or moles that change shape, they are something to worry about. “Since the lesions are benign there generally are no medical indications to treat/remove them,” assures Dr Arora. “However, some individuals do not like the appearance of them and may want to consider having them treated/removed,” they add.

What treatments are available to remove DPN and are there any risks?


1659327914455.png There are a number of treatments available to remove DPN, including laser treatment, cryotherapy (using liquid nitrogen to freeze off the lesions), electrocautery (using an electric current) to cauterize the lesion, and curettage (scraping) to remove the lesions.
Bianca Estelle warns that the treatments do come with risks of scarring, hyperpigmentation and burns and it’s likely that you’ll need to have repeated treatments as more DPN appear.“It's worth noting that both the latter can cause hyperpigmentation (dark patches) or hypopigmentation (lighter patches), which can take up to six months to resolve,” she explains. “Like DPN, hyperpigmentation is also more common in those with darker skin tones so the best to consult an experienced skin specialist before going about a route of treatment.”
“It can take a while depending on how many you have but usually numbing cream is applied beforehand so it doesn’t hurt too much,” she shares. “The clinic purposely let the skin scab over to aid better healing too so it kind of looks like you still have DPN but after about a week or two most of the scabs have healed. I had a lot of DPN by this point so I didn’t have them all removed but a lot of the larger ones were treated and I’ve been back to get more removed quite a few times since.”
“The results were incredible and worth it for me,” says Buckle. “I had downtime of maybe a week with blotchy scabby skin but once they were healed my skin was so much clearer. I’d never seen my skin like that when I was younger because I had issues with acne too so I think I knew I’d always get it done again if I needed to.”


So, should I get my DPN removed?


I’m undecided. While I’m no stranger to a facial, my face and skin have largely been untouched by aestheticians — mainly out of fear. The risks of hyperpigmentation and scarring are holding me back.
I sent a close-up of my DPN to Bianca Estelle for her expert advice. “Cryo is an option but, unless the lesions really bother you, it wouldn’t be worth it because they are so small,” she says honestly, adding, “and using cryo means you’ll get either hyper or hypopigmentation and that will take six months to address.” Instead, Bianca Estelle recommends I use a higher grade glycolic acid and ensure I wear SPF 50 every day, keeping out of the sun where possible.
Right now, I like the way my DPN looks, especially when my partner traces them across my face and calls them cute. My father has them and so did my Grandmother, and these strangely have become an unexpected connection to my heritage, like tiny little heirlooms. As I look in the mirror I can see that I have the eyes of my mum, the nose of my dad and, sprawled across my face, proud and centre, the freckles of my late grandmother.
 
A little protip? NEVER skip over checking out what Ross has in stock. I just bought a BEEKMAN 1802 Little Black Mask and the Boscia Tsubaki Swirl moisturizer for $12 TOTAL. The Boscia goes $38 retail. Play it safe, don't buy anything that's been opened and ALWAYS check the batch codes before bringing them up to checkout.
 
After my 3rd laser treatment and 1st botox last month (plus changes to my routine), the results are amazing and my skin is like glass now. I recently made a few purchases and here are my findings after about two weeks.

Baja Basics Bakuchiol Serum: Bakuchiol is basically a retinol "alternative." A little goes a long way and I like that it has kojic acid, olive oil, pea extract and vitamin B & C in it too.

COSRX Snail Mucin Cream: I am absolutely in love with it. It's so light and I'm enjoying how hydrating it is. No weird smell or anything, makes a good layer of moisturizer.

LaClaire's 8% Retinol serum: It's a bit of a gimmicky name, but it has retinol, retinyl palmitate, and lactic acid. It works very well.

Neutrogena Regenerative Repair Cream + Retinol Pro Serum: I love the smell of Neutrogena products usually and the Pro Serum is hands down my favorite smell. They both are sold together and it works for me, I wish the Repair Cream was bigger.

Neutrogena Rapid Firming Peptide Contour Lift Cream: I like how firm my jaw and neck are becoming with this. I'm going to explore this product line, as there is an eye cream and collagen serum along with this. It has a good smell, there's plenty of it too.

PHARM TO TABLE Hemp Oil + Retinol Body lotion: I figured it was time to invest in my body with a cream and this has done phenomenal so far. There are a lot of beneficial components in the ingredient list. It's done wonders for my heat spots I get on my legs at the gym. I'm bulking and it's helped with the stretch marks I've gotten on my thighs and underarms.

Neutrogena Acne Proofing Scrub: I started using this stuff when I was just starting to stop having severe cystic breakouts in 2018. It's one of the best acne washes of the Neutrogena lines and it has a "clear defense shield", which basically leaves a protective film on your skin. It smells very citrusy. If I have a minor breakout, it stops it so you have to use it semi-regularly to see preventative results. I had to get it on Amazon because I cannot find it anywhere near me.

Morning:
I simply rinse my face with water, put on vitamin C, and apply Neutrogena's retinol infused moisturizer with SPF. Then pure SPF cream to my face, ears, neck, and hands then dab on some eye cream.

At night:
1. Wash my face and body with tea tree oil and hyaluronic acid soap.

2. Shave with cream.

3. Physically exfoliate.

4. Wash with salicylic acid for 5 minutes.

5. Apply glycolic acid toner.

6. Put on adapalene, retinol 8%, retinol pro serum, regenerative retinol cream, & bakuchiol serum (I use a copious amount of different retinol because I can tolerate it).

7. Apply Asterwood Matrixyl 3000 with arginine and vitamin C.

8. Dab Neutrogena Contour Peptide cream on my jaw, neck, eyes, and face.

9. Slather snail mucin cream all over my face

10. Moisturize with CeraVe PM

11. Apply sleep mask cream

12. Use Murad's Radience+ eye cream and super greens eye cream.

*On Sundays I will ONLY use pure SPF and Aveeno Oat cleanser & Serum to give myself a break mentally and physically from so many products.

Here are things I also do for my skin:

1. Blackhead remover once a week.
2. At home microdermabrasion once to twice a week instead of rag exfoliation.
3. LED therapy three times a week, specifically red light.
4. Drink Bone Broth at least 3 times a week
5. Supplements nearly everyday.
6. Get IV infusions of vitamins, amino acids, and electrolytes once every 2 months
7. I'm new to botox but will get it every 4-6 months after my first treatment
8. CO2 Fraxel laser once a year, after 3 rounds of it this year it works so good
9. Brow wax and tint every two months
10. Massage with a gua sha

I'm always willing to try new things and I'm excited to refine and add to my routine, discover new things through my fellow Kiwis. I'm pretty proud of my collection so far!
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Even tretinoin take about 6 months to a year for drastic differences, I don't know how long you used it for before quitting.

The research isn't as good as on tretinoin, but Adapalene (the retinoid, Differin is just a brand name) do show potential and are able to fade sunspots.

Don't say that, cats are way better companionship than humans. But yes, It's one of the reasons why I don't have cats. As the temptation to smush my face in their fur all the time is too big. And I get creeped out by hairless cats like Sphynx.



There is no difference as far as I know.
Thanks for all your advice; it gave me some things to think about. I quit the Paula's Choice azelaic acid for now and I think my skin is happier without it, which is fine with me since it's almost $40 per ounce. I also called my doctor to refill my old Retin-A prescription. I know a lot of people find tretinoin more harsh and irritating than adapalene, but my skin seemed to do better with it, possibly because it's a cream rather than a gel.

I'm really liking the sea buckthorn and prickly pear oils added to my moisturizer, and I've also been faithful about slathering on the Aquaphor at night.

I'm still having a little bit of purging at my temples and on my forehead, but it's definitely reduced in severity and I can see improvement in the texture of the skin in those areas. My main complaint right now is that I picked a closed comedone on my cheek and now I have a spot of hyperpigmentation.

Anyway, your help has already been invaluable and I'll be back for more.
 
Thanks for all your advice; it gave me some things to think about. I quit the Paula's Choice azelaic acid for now and I think my skin is happier without it, which is fine with me since it's almost $40 per ounce. I also called my doctor to refill my old Retin-A prescription. I know a lot of people find tretinoin more harsh and irritating than adapalene, but my skin seemed to do better with it, possibly because it's a cream rather than a gel.

I'm really liking the sea buckthorn and prickly pear oils added to my moisturizer, and I've also been faithful about slathering on the Aquaphor at night.

I'm still having a little bit of purging at my temples and on my forehead, but it's definitely reduced in severity and I can see improvement in the texture of the skin in those areas. My main complaint right now is that I picked a closed comedone on my cheek and now I have a spot of hyperpigmentation.

Anyway, your help has already been invaluable and I'll be back for more.
Had a similar reaction to azelaic acid. I don't know who it's a "holy grail" ingredient for, but it certainly wasn't me or anybody else I've known that's tried it...
 
It feels like betrayal what the FDA has "accomplished." The US has shit tier UV filters compared to the rest of the world. Avobenzone and zinc oxide are the only UVA filters worth a damn we have at our disposal in products, and even then they're not as stable or long lasting. If you want the best sunscreen in the US, you have to import it internationally. Half of the approved UV filters in the US aren't usable, healthy, or wanted by consumers. Oxybenzone, octyl methoxycinnamate and octocrylene, which are known to cause issues in our bodies and reefs, are okay and approved? Dioxybenzone turns skin blue, but it is ok on paper? Most manufacturers don't use those four ingredients anymore, but the pool of filters is quite limiting.

If international companies want to sell directly in the US, they have to use old style formulas. America's only choice of the best UVA protection is to order the international brands indirectly.
 
My current routine is:

AM
Cerave Hydrating Cleanser
The Ordinary Vit C Suspension
IT Cosmetics Confidence in a Cream
Biore Aquarich Sunscreen
IT Cosmetics CC cream

PM
Skinjuice Coconut Cream Cleanser
Differin
CosRX Snail 92
CosRX Snail eye cream
IT Cosmetics Confidence in a Cream

I get Dysport for my 11s, around my eyes, down the sides and under my nose (to lift the tip) about every 8 months and 1ml of filler in my lips once a year.
 
I feel bad, I only use 2-4 items for my face for my daily routine... I tend to switch up the products too.
Right now I am currently using:
Kiehl's Super Multi-Corrective Cream
Kiehl's Retinol Skin-Renewing Daily Micro-Dose Serum
... A kbeauty product for cleaning my face that I forgot the name of but I got it off of Soko Glam
PINK Cucumber Water + Hydraulic Lotion before bed, and after showering.
....and chapstick.
 
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