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Sinner's Sandwich said:
So it turned out that Tetsuya Yamagami - Abe's killer was right all along. Not with what he did but with what he said.

Abe is connected to the South Korean cult of the Unification Church. His grandfather brought the cult to japan and Abe was involved as well. It's not just him but 179 members of his party are supposedly connected and the more crazy thing is that the unification church is extremly anti japanese. Like japanese people who join the church get guilt tripped and japanese women who marry south korean cultists are being told to serve them.

Here is video that explains it all really well not just that but he shows the japanese side.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=veGthNR516w
The cult ruined the entire family of Abe's killer. His mother became completely obsessed with it and neglegted her 3 children to the point of leaving for South Korea and leaving them alone in the house with no food. And this cult basically ruled Japanese politics for decades. It's all comig to light slowly and it's a huge fucking deal in japan. Now I feel very sorry for Mr. Yamagami. He is a murderer but what lead to it all started with a South Korean cult and Shinzo Abe's grandfather.

More videos:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=apLfTj0rgxMhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=y-1ZDXyewkshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=yCfvGOeBJtwhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=U2RGDoA_XuU
Oh also the Unification church has ties to the infamous Aum Shinrikyo cult.
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What in the absolute god damn...? Are the Koreans just the jews of East Asia?
 
Traincake said:
What in the absolute god damn...? Are the Koreans just the jews of East Asia?
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“Jews account for just 0.2 percent of the world’s population, but 23 percent of Nobel Prize winners have been Jewish,” Seoul-based student Choi Jae-young related. “And despite all the time and money we spend on education, only one Korean has ever won a Nobel award. That irks many Koreans. It makes us want to learn Jews’ secrets.”


“In Korea, the people want to learn the way of education in Jewish traditions,” Kyoungsik says. “So they naturally have interest in Jewish traditions, like hevruta,” peer-to-peer study.

“The Koreans respect the Jews because for so many years the Jews didn’t have their own physical country. However, they kept their ethnic identity and there are many successful Jews in the modern world. So the Koreans are very curious how they kept their identity, how they succeeded even in hard times,” he adds.

Kyoungsik says that Jewish history and Korean history share some commonalities. “All of us suffered from tyrant domination. We Koreans also suffered from a lot of battles, a lot of wars, during our history.”

“So I just found there are sympathetic feelings with the Jews, and I want to share those kinds of feelings among us,” he says.
 
So after combing through all of the highlights, there are very few that seem to talk from a Japanese person's perspective on Abe. While assassination makes for a very bad rep, and not wished upon any world leaders, this event means much more to Japan than simply the unsightly loss of a leader.

First, we can understand the criticisms that exist of Abe:
Meiwaku said:
Reasons why people would be disgruntled
  • Unstable job creation lead to harshness for youth similar to the issue in Murica with boomers. Birth rate was blamed instead instead of trying to fix unstable jobs
  • issues with the teacher lisence renewal policies in its creation and execution
  • Bad handling of corona virus
  • bad handling of Olympics
  • Abenomask (baiscally the government sent out these masks to try to help lack of masks, they are shit lol. people found insects, hair, and other gross things in the "sterile" masks. there was also sizing issues and distribution errors) the whole thing was useless and basically a giant meme.
  • expansion of non-regular employment (temp work which hurts workers long term)
  • suspicion of falsification of documents /cronyism related to the department of tax administration
  • some people were mad about the early childhood education
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Compared to any of the positive things Abe did (quality of life legislations, equity for females), the reasons people dislike Abe's office are because of bad management of core and foundational issues to Japan as a proud nation. This isn't to even mention the handling of disasters, nuclear reactors, construction, and other scandals that happened during his long time in office.

My personal opinion is that Abe is already part of the "global elites" and continue to help and sustain Japan's stagnation on multiple fronts, while being America's lapdog for any of their political agendas that might arrive.

See how it is highly interesting that Abe has such a better rep abroad than within the country:
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Checking on twitter and the most tributes are coming from India of all places.View attachment 3470621
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Fanaticism in Taiwan for Abe:
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And not to mention how many people are so sad and feel a personal connection to a politician that doesn't even governs them.

Abe made great appearances in foreign diplomacy, and was able to advertise and associate with world leaders. But a lot of Japan's foreign relations problem remained the same, and when it was time for citizens and world leaders to attend his funeral? It was improperly managed and used in the highest degree politically within Japan. Polls show that at least 60% of citizens think this should not be a national burial.

The funeral is technically unconstitutional, where burial by the country was legislated to not be a thing anymore, but his party pulled all the strings to make it a thing. The funeral costed more than Queen Elizabeth's funeral, and to a much lesser effect. In terms of foreign relations, it was an absolute disaster where none of the G7 leaders came to visit. Imagine all the important people who said were your friends but didn't show up at your funeral, that is what happened just a few days ago.




Last but not least is the political wave and the situation caused by the death of Abe, and the super majority gained by the ruling party. It would be great if there are any Japanese people that can weigh in on my question: Did the death of Abe trigger something in Japanese media, such that they finally were able to really reflect on the errors of the ruling party? Media censorship and the NHK Party? I know there is little chance for change since now it is basically a one party state there, but the assassination did some how kick started the conversation of cult involvement in LDP and the deep corruption that is entrenched there.

Sinner's Sandwich said:
So it turned out that Tetsuya Yamagami - Abe's killer was right all along. Not with what he did but with what he said.

Abe is connected to the South Korean cult of the Unification Church. His grandfather brought the cult to japan and Abe was involved as well. It's not just him but 179 members of his party are supposedly connected and the more crazy thing is that the unification church is extremly anti japanese. Like japanese people who join the church get guilt tripped and japanese women who marry south korean cultists are being told to serve them.

Here is video that explains it all really well not just that but he shows the japanese side.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=veGthNR516w
The cult ruined the entire family of Abe's killer. His mother became completely obsessed with it and neglegted her 3 children to the point of leaving for South Korea and leaving them alone in the house with no food. And this cult basically ruled Japanese politics for decades. It's all comig to light slowly and it's a huge fucking deal in japan. Now I feel very sorry for Mr. Yamagami. He is a murderer but what lead to it all started with a South Korean cult and Shinzo Abe's grandfather.

More videos:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=apLfTj0rgxMhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=y-1ZDXyewkshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=yCfvGOeBJtwhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=U2RGDoA_XuU
Oh also the Unification church has ties to the infamous Aum Shinrikyo cult.
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Sinner's Sandwich said:
So it turned out that Tetsuya Yamagami - Abe's killer was right all along. Not with what he did but with what he said.

Abe is connected to the South Korean cult of the Unification Church. His grandfather brought the cult to japan and Abe was involved as well. It's not just him but 179 members of his party are supposedly connected and the more crazy thing is that the unification church is extremly anti japanese. Like japanese people who join the church get guilt tripped and japanese women who marry south korean cultists are being told to serve them.

Here is a video that explains it all really well not just that but it shows the japanese side.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=veGthNR516w
The cult ruined the entire family of Abe's killer. His mother became completely obsessed with it and neglegted her 3 children to the point of leaving for South Korea and leaving them alone in the house with no food. And this cult basically ruled Japanese politics for decades. It's all comig to light slowly and it's a huge fucking deal in japan. Now I feel very sorry for Mr. Yamagami. He is a murderer but what lead to it all started with a South Korean cult and Shinzo Abe's grandfather.

More videos:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=apLfTj0rgxMhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=y-1ZDXyewkshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=yCfvGOeBJtwhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=U2RGDoA_XuU
Oh also the Unification church has ties to the infamous Aum Shinrikyo cult.
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i had no idea Asians could experience something close to "white guilt".

just finished the video. holy fucking shit, the rabbit hole is deep. i feel so sorry for Tetsuya Yamagami. i doubt Abe death will change anything with the cult or the ties it has with the Japanese government but atleast its out there and people are aware of its existence.
 
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Gravityqueen4life said:
just finished the video. holy fucking shit, the rabbit hole is deep.
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I didn't watch the long video but Moon's son also runs a breakaway cult in rural PA (might be Texas now) that emphases 2nd Amendment and guns as the "Rod of Iron" of the Bible. The cult rabbit hole is insane.

I don't know if we have a thread specifically about the Moonies or the Gun church because maybe they just do their own thing and only make headlines once in a while.


 
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awoo said:
I didn't watch the long video but Moon's son also runs a breakaway cult in rural PA (might be Texas now) that emphases 2nd Amendment and guns as the "Rod of Iron" of the Bible. The cult rabbit hole is insane.
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Here is a video where 2 guys (one of them grew up in the Unification Church cult and the other did a ton of research) talk about the influences in the US and the nature of the cult. The title is a bit weird I guess but the video is worth watching. The rabbit hole is indeed insane. It's a damn shame that there are just a few youtubers talking about this.


Moon's son knows (or pretends to know) the Trump family and is a huge Trump fan. Apparently the gun cult is talking to schools (!). There also was an incident where a Moonie went crazy and was on the way to kill politicans but had a car accident. In his car they found a kill list.

These cults aren't some weird fringe groups. They are dangerous and insane.

More Unification Church insanity. I will never understand how people in the anglospehere can believe that some weird asian dude is the Messiah.
 
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Sinner's Sandwich said:
Here is a video that explains it all really well not just that but it shows the japanese side.

The cult ruined the entire family of Abe's killer. His mother became completely obsessed with it and neglegted her 3 children to the point of leaving for South Korea and leaving them alone in the house with no food. And this cult basically ruled Japanese politics for decades. It's all comig to light slowly and it's a huge fucking deal in japan. Now I feel very sorry for Mr. Yamagami. He is a murderer but what lead to it all started with a South Korean cult and Shinzo Abe's grandfather.
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Watched the video, informative but cringy as fuck. The shooter's family life is soap opera level absurd. Like the kind of thing that if was depicted in real life you'd say that someone would have eventually just stabbed the mother. Don't know though if the cult has real life goal or it's the usual sex trafficking money laundering shit that pretty much every politician will sell his soul to rise up the ranks.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Watched the video, informative but cringy as fuck. The shooter's family life is soap opera level absurd. Like the kind of thing that if was depicted in real life you'd say that someone would have eventually just stabbed the mother. Don't know though if the cult has real life goal or it's the usual sex trafficking money laundering shit that pretty much every politician will sell his soul to rise up the ranks.
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I'm sure the cult is corrupt as all hell, but I'm very wary whenever anything to do with the moonies gets brought up, primarily because of how politically tainted the discussion is. We do know they prey on older people for donations just like a lot of religions do, as tragic as it would be that the shooter's mother left all her wealth to the cult, that shit happens constantly in regards to other religions and charities. But there is one big thing that the Unification church is known for, one big thing that taints all discussion, they are vehemently anti-communist and reactionary.
A lot of criticism against the moonies are made by communist and liberal radicals.
In japan one of the main critics of the Unification church in Japan is Yoshifu Arita, a journalist and politician who was the member of a woke liberalism party where he spent all his time bitching about racism in Japan.
Critics of the Unification church also try all the time to link the cult to another cult, Aum Shinrikyo, although I've never seen such a link ever proven, in fact they seem to be rivals when it comes to appealing to vulnerable individuals in Japanese society. The unification church and Aum Shinrikyo should also be ideological rivals considering the former is strongly anti communist, while the latter tried to reach out to North Korea for financial support. It's a long lasting theory that the nerve gas used by Aum Shinrikyo was supplied by North Korea.
I don't particularly like the Unification Church, it's all religious hogwash, but I heavily dislike how often any discussion around the cult becomes tainted by misinformation and commie bullshit.
I think it's peculiar that a former japanese prime minister gets assassinated, and the response by the political opposition is to try and shift the discussion towards starting investigations into the Unification church. I think it's obvious that the liberals and the socialists in Japan are trying to quell the support towards the murdered former prime minister and the government party by trying to make it about the moonies as much as possible.

I think it's important to keep in mind that in east asia religious cults and political movements often go hand in hand. It is not unusual for Abe to have connections to the cult, especially with their ties to anti communist and reactionary politics in Japan and Korea. It is not a surprise that the opposition hates the unification church. Japan and Korea also have plenty of left wing and socialist cults who constantly squabble with the moonies. South Korea has long been a battleground between reactionary cults, and north Korean sympathizing and feminist cults.
 

Court shortens psychiatric evaluation period for Abe's accused killer​

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The Nara District Court has decided to reduce the length of the psychiatric evaluation of the man suspected of shooting former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, reversing an earlier extension of the process, Kyodo news agency reported on Friday.

Tetsuya Yamagami, an unemployed 42-year-old, has been identified by police as the suspect who approached Abe at a campaign speech on a street corner in the western city of Nara on July 8 and opened fire with a handmade gun.

The local court initially granted prosecutors' request to continue Yamagami's psychiatric evaluation until Feb 6, extending it for an extra three months from the initial end date of Nov 29.

Yamagami's defence appealed against the extension, claiming that an evaluation that "lasts over six months is much too long, and is illegal given that it is neither necessary nor reasonable," according to the Kyodo report.

The court decided on Friday to conclude the evaluation on Jan 10, Kyodo said.

Nara prosecutors were not available for comment outside of office hours. Yamagami's defense could not be reached.
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Gov't prepares bills to help people impacted by religious group sales practices​

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Japan's government on Friday prepared a pair of bills to revise consumer contract laws to help people financially impacted by the dubious sales practices of the Unification Church and other religious organizations.

The government, also planning separate legislation to impose criminal punishment if religious organizations maliciously solicit donations, submitted its summary to ruling and opposition parties, despite the differences between the two over how to regulate illicit fundraising by such groups.

The planned legal revisions come as the Unification Church's notorious practices are increasingly under the spotlight, with some former members saying they were duped into making financially ruinous donations.

The group is also known for its "spiritual sales," in which people are pressured into buying vases and other items for exorbitant prices through threats, such as invoking negative "ancestral karma."

Prime Minister Fumio Kishida, whose approval ratings have been plunging, partly due to his government's handling of the issues surrounding the Unification Church, has said the government intends to submit the bills during the ongoing parliamentary session through Dec 10.

Earlier this month, Kishida said he had privately met with victims of the Unification Church to listen to their plights linked to the group.

The government seeks to revise existing laws -- the consumer contract law and the law on the National Consumer Affairs Center -- to rescue victims of "spiritual sales" that have led to massive payments to religious groups.

By revising the consumer contract law, the government plans to allow consumers 10 years to cancel contracts made for spiritual sales, double the current five-year duration.

It is also considering enabling victims of spiritual sales to cancel contracts signed under duress following threats related to their family members' lives and properties.

The revisions to the consumer affairs center law would allow the government to release the names of organizations engaging in malicious practices, when it is necessary to protect consumers from them.

Scrutiny of the Unification Church, founded by a staunch anti-communist in South Korea in 1954, intensified after former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was fatally shot during an election campaign speech in early July.

His attacker, Tetsuya Yamagami, has said he held a grudge against the organization, now formally called the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification, because his mother made considerable donations to the group, which financially ruined his family.

Troubles facing the so-called second-generation members -- children who have also been enrolled in their parents' religious organization -- have also recently drawn attention.

Regarding the separate bill to support victims who made massive donations, the government aims to enable dependent family members of believers to cancel donations on behalf of the believers themselves.

The bill would also ban religious groups from pressuring followers to borrow money or use their home as collateral to procure funds for donations, and prohibit them from suggesting someone could fall into misfortune without donations.

The government and the ruling coalition led by Kishida's Liberal Democratic Party and Komeito are facing differences between them and opposition parties in some aspects of the legislation.

The leading opposition Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan and the second-largest Japan Innovation Party have called for the new law to enable the cancellation of donations offered by followers under the influence of brainwashing, also known as "mind control" in Japan.

But the government and the ruling camp have said that it is difficult to define such a state of mind in terms of law.

The two opposition forces have also requested the government set a cap on the amount of donations, such as up to a fourth of their annual disposal income.
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Sinner's Sandwich said:
Here is a video where 2 guys (one of them grew up in the Unification Church cult and the other did a ton of research) talk about the influences in the US and the nature of the cult. The title is a bit weird I guess but the video is worth watching. The rabbit hole is indeed insane. It's a damn shame that there are just a few youtubers talking about this.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ooxgUHO1Yqc

Moon's son knows (or pretends to know) the Trump family and is a huge Trump fan. Apparently the gun cult is talking to schools (!). There also was an incident where a Moonie went crazy and was on the way to kill politicans but had a car accident. In his car they found a kill list.

These cults aren't some weird fringe groups. They are dangerous and insane.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q71o0txgHIoMore Unification Church insanity. I will never understand how people in the anglospehere can believe that some weird asian dude is the Messiah.
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The mainline Moonie "Church" split apart when the insane founded died. Now his equally insane wife and sons are fighting over the cult. The Moonies are fucking nuts and tbh, as usual, once the founder of these things dies, start the death clock
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Watched the video, informative but cringy as fuck. The shooter's family life is soap opera level absurd. Like the kind of thing that if was depicted in real life you'd say that someone would have eventually just stabbed the mother. Don't know though if the cult has real life goal or it's the usual sex trafficking money laundering shit that pretty much every politician will sell his soul to rise up the ranks.
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People are still responsible for their own actions and that guys mother shouldn't have been a fucking retard.
Gravityqueen4life said:
a year old double post but as i said, its been a full year since Abe assassination.
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Since Japan is still ruled by ancient old men, not much has changed
 
The trial for the murderer of Shinzo Abe will begin on October 28, and the ruling will be released on January 21. / Archive

TOKYO - A court will hand down the ruling in January on the man indicted over the 2022 fatal shooting of former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

The Nara District Court has released the trial schedule for the case of Tetsuya Yamagami, 45, comprising 19 sessions running from 2 p.m. on Oct 28 to the ruling at 1:30 p.m. on Jan 21.

Abe, Japan's longest-serving prime minister, was shot at close range with a handmade gun while giving a campaign speech in Nara, western Japan, on July 8, 2022, two days before the House of Councillors election.

Yamagami told investigators he bore a grudge against the Unification Church, a South Korea-based religious group known for aggressive donation solicitations, after his mother's large financial contributions caused his family financial ruin.

He targeted Abe, believing the former prime minister had links to the organization, according to investigative sources. The high-profile case also shed light on questionable ties between ruling Liberal Democratic Party lawmakers and the controversial group.
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So I guess Japan takes clear-cut murder cases slowly like this too, compared to how quickly China prosecuted, sentenced to death, and executed the Zhuhai car attack mass murderer:

Thiletonomics

CN Post in thread 'Zhuhai vehicle attack kills 35 and wounds 43 (yes, thirty-five killed)'

This is a late update, but the driver (Fan Weiqiu) was found guilty of the vehicular homicides, and was sentenced to death last December. He was then executed in January this year. / Archive
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The killer has testified in court for the first time: / Archive

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The man standing trial for the 2022 assassination of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe spoke in court for the first time on Thursday, addressing his mother's involvement with the Unification Church and its impact on his perspective.

"My outlook on life and how I think radically changed," Tetsuya Yamagami said during the 10th hearing at the Nara District Court when asked how his life had shifted after his mother became a follower of the religious group. It was one of his first statements in court since the trial began in October.

The 45-year-old defendant also apologized for his actions, saying he was "terribly sorry for the inconvenience caused by this outcome" and that he "did not deserve" to have lived to his current age.

When asked about his mother, Yamagami said, "She isn't a bad person fundamentally. There were just things about the Unification Church that were hard for me to understand."

According to the defense counsel, Yamagami's mother donated a total of 100 million yen to the group after joining it. The sum included her husband's life insurance payout following his suicide, and she later declared bankruptcy.

"I think it wouldn't have been a problem if she hadn't donated such a large sum of money," Yamagami said of his mother's decision to join the church.

They argued that the defendant grew increasingly "vengeful" toward the church because of his situation, including his mother's actions and the suicide of his brother in 2015.

The brother was also resentful of his mother's large donations. Yamagami attempted suicide at age 24, reportedly hoping to leave his life insurance money to his siblings.

According to investigative sources, Yamagami claimed that he targeted Abe because Abe's grandfather, Nobusuke Kishi, who also served as prime minister, helped introduce the Unification Church to Japan.

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Abe's assassin has been sentenced to life in prison. / Archive

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The gunman charged with killing former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was sentenced to life in prison on Wednesday, more than three years after the broad-daylight assassination shocked the world.

The slaying forced a reckoning in a country with little experience of gun violence, and ignited scrutiny of alleged ties between prominent conservative lawmakers and a secretive sect, the Unification Church.

The presiding judge said that using a homemade gun where a large crowd was present was an extremely despicable and malicious crime.

On Wednesday morning, a queue of people waited to get tickets to enter the Nara District Court, highlighting intense public interest in the trial.

Tetsuya Yamagami, 45, was convicted of murder and firearms control law violations for using a handmade gun to kill Japan's longest-serving leader during a campaign speech on July 8, 2022.

As the lay judge trial opened in October, Yamagami admitted to murder. Under Japan's legal system, a trial continues even if a defendant admits guilt.

Manabu Kawashima, a logistics worker who was waiting outside court, said he wanted "to know the truth about Yamagami."

"What happened to former Prime Minister Abe was the incident of the century. And I liked him while he was alive. His death was shocking," the 31-year-old said. "I'm here because I wanted to know about the man who killed someone I cared about."

Prosecutors sought a life sentence for Yamagami, calling the murder "unprecedented in our postwar history" and citing the "extremely serious consequences" it had on society, according to local media.

The Japanese version of life imprisonment leaves open the possibility of parole, although in reality, experts say many die while incarcerated.

At the trial opening, prosecutors argued that the defendant's motive to kill Abe was rooted in his desire to besmirch the Unification Church.

The months-long trial highlighted how his mother's blind donations to the church plunged his family into bankruptcy and how he came to believe "influential politicians" were helping the sect thrive.

Abe had spoken at events organized by some of the church groups.

Yamagami "thought if he killed someone as influential as former prime minister Abe, he could draw public attention to the Church and fuel public criticism of it," a prosecutor told the court in October.

The Unification Church was established in South Korea in 1954, with its members nicknamed "Moonies" after its founder Sun Myung Moon.

In a plea for leniency, Yamagami's defense team stressed his upbringing had been mired in "religious abuse" stemming from his mother's extreme faith in the Unification Church.

In despair after the suicide of her husband, and with her other son gravely ill, Yamagami's mother poured all her assets into the church to "salvage" her family, Yamagami's lawyer said, adding that her donations eventually snowballed to around 100 million yen ($1 million at the time).

Yamagami was forced to give up pursuing higher education. In 2005, he attempted to take his own life before his brother died by suicide.

Investigations after Abe's murder led to cascading revelations about close ties between the church and many conservative lawmakers in the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, prompting four ministers to resign.

In 2020, Yamagami began handcrafting a lethal firearm, a process that involved meticulous test-firing sessions in a remote mountainous area.

This pointed to the highly "premeditated" nature of his attack on Abe, prosecutors said.

The assassination was also a wake-up call for a nation which has some of the world's strictest gun controls.

Gun violence is so rare in Japan that security officials at the scene failed to immediately identify the sound made by the first shot, and came to Abe's rescue too late, a police report after the attack said.
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So I guess killing a politician is less of a crime than burning down an anime studio, or running over crowds of people in China.
 
Thiletonomics said:
So I guess killing a politician is less of a crime
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Perhaps it's because of Abe's connection to the Unification church. He was killed because he was part of the cult.

Abe's grandfather brought the cult to Japan and after the assassination it turned out lots of members of his party where Moonie cultists. His death revealed the cult's influence in the japanese government so this might be the reason why his Killer's life was spared.
 
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