RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

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Silver Chariot said:
aight, real talk, why do you guys even like this show?

like I know someone who catches every episode but only ironically
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To me, RWBY is a fun kind of bad. I can go on Discord or here and talk all about the shit the show does as well as laugh at the takes its most ardent defenders present. Also the fanart and fanfics (especially the rewrites) are really cool.
 
XtrmGamr719 said:
Her VA has to have done something that pissed off CRWBY if Glynda barely exists outside of the show. Vic was accused of being a sexual assaulter and he got replaced by someone, what makes them think they couldn't do the same for Glynda?
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A TL;DR of what happened with Kathleen Zuelch: She accused RT of nepotism and called out Burnie Burns girlfriend (I think she was at the time then they got married) for only having a job because of who she was with. But the real kicker that I think played a role in her getting kicked out and Glynda getting wiped was that she supported Shane Newville's letter. He called out RT for a lot of horrid behind the scenes behavior and how they completely pissed over everything Monty had intended with the show after he died and spilled the beans on how they treated people and went over his terrible experiences with them leading to him getting the boot. The letter was disregarded by RT/RWBY fans when it came out years ago because they thought that RT couldn't possibly be that bad and thought Shane was crazy to say things were a mess behind the scenes. A couple people backed Shane up on it including Kathleen Zuelch, which was followed by Glynda getting completely wiped from the show and I don't even know if she's even been mentioned since Volume 4. I'm convinced it was Miles and co. being petty brats and getting rid of Glynda out of spite when they could have recasted her.
 
Roland Daggett said:
I'm convinced it was Miles and co. being petty brats and getting rid of Glynda out of spite when they could have recasted her.
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What? RT employees being petty cunts? Unheard of. Next you'll tell me they fired a big name VA without telling them why, and accidentally CC'd said VA with "Nobody answer him" when asked why. That would be not only petty, but unprofessional, and we all know RT is nothing if not professional.
 
Apparently some people in the fandom are claiming that Ironwood's slowly turning into Adam? I'm not really watching the show anymore, so could someone share if that's accurate or not?

Knowing the FNDM he's probably just yelled Blake and Yang for doing something exceptional, which means he's an evil abuser male who hates lesbians because the Bees can do no wrong.
 
madethistocomment said:
Apparently some people in the fandom are claiming that Ironwood's slowly turning into Adam? I'm not really watching the show anymore, so could someone share if that's accurate or not?

Knowing the FNDM he's probably just yelled Blake and Yang for doing something exceptional, which means he's an evil abuser male who hates lesbians because the Bees can do no wrong.
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I’d say it’s people saying Ironwood is a chad for putting Team RWBY in their place....and people are responding to that.
 
Silver Chariot said:
aight, real talk, why do you guys even like this show?

like I know someone who catches every episode but only ironically
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Really just watching for cute girls wielding cool weapons in cool fight scenes at this point. We got some cool fight scenes this week but not so many cute girls wielding cool weapons, so it's only a half-improvement for me.
 
madethistocomment said:
Apparently some people in the fandom are claiming that Ironwood's slowly turning into Adam? I'm not really watching the show anymore, so could someone share if that's accurate or not?

Knowing the FNDM he's probably just yelled Blake and Yang for doing something exceptional, which means he's an evil abuser male who hates lesbians because the Bees can do no wrong.
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>Ironwood turning into Adam

Well, unless Miles has retconned Jimmy into being in an underage relationship with a member of Team RWBY and be an abuser of sorts than we've officially lost what little strand of hope in this show.

James was in the right to chew the team out, with special mentions to Little Miss Idealism, along with Bumblefuck 1 and 2 who literally shit things up with their own idiocy~ Seriously, if Hill had been a Salem Agent or anything that wasn't for "The people of Mantle" this would be a very risky gamble in which everything would get more fucked than what the end result had been in this show.

And for Ruby, she absolutely deserved it because she showed that she couldn't prevent herself from acting like Ozpin while making herself, alongside her team, and JNR bigger hypocrites than old Ozzy (Well, in the case of Jaune and Yang, even bigger thanks to their secrets) before it blows up in her face worse than a scheme done by Wile E. Coyote.
 
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madethistocomment said:
Apparently some people in the fandom are claiming that Ironwood's slowly turning into Adam? I'm not really watching the show anymore, so could someone share if that's accurate or not?

Knowing the FNDM he's probably just yelled Blake and Yang for doing something exceptional, which means he's an evil abuser male who hates lesbians because the Bees can do no wrong.
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Slowly turn into...

What?

Alright, so, I'm one of the people who don't buy that Adam was always abusive, but let's point out the fact that the only reason that Ironwood is acting in a totalitarian fashion is for 1) him trying to make the best out of a situation, 2) Team RWBY outright lying to him about the situation (which has it's own problems) and 3) Bumbledee and Bumbledumber some how getting it in their heads that telling Robyn Hill about the tower is even a good idea.

Which while Ritcher said above:

Rondo Richter Belmont said:
Seriously, if Hill had been a Salem Agent or anything that wasn't for "The people of Mantle" this would be a very risky gamble in which everything would get more fucked than what the end result had been in this show.
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Is true, there's another issue - And that's due to the fact that Robyn isn't even that trustworthy to begin with - if she was, she would've used her Semblance on Penny or the dog guy (I forget his name) at the rally to prove whether or not they were telling the truth about the attack. To me, it seems like she was looking for an excuse to break the law, not that she needed one, since she was already doing that.

Let's assume, and this is an assumption, that Adam always was a creepy ex-boyfriend stalker - the comparison to Ironwood wouldn't work, because the only reason why he's acting this way is because RWBY decided it'd be a good idea to lie and break his trust... Well, to be fair, Weiss didn't do anything there to violate his trust, in fact, in all honesty, the fact that she did discover Watts and exposed her father should, for all intents and purposes, show that she has been loyal to Ironwood.

But back to the mistrust issue... I don't really see why this is really much of an issue at this point - Since, well, Oscar already blabbed about what the group did to him, and yes, he was shaken, but he was already resolved to fight.

Look, the latest episode might've been good, and hey, I actually like Ironwood as a character, but we can't look at this episode in a vacuum. And with all the BS for this episode, it does taint it... Especially when Team RWBY acts like they have a say in what should be done at this point after the bullshit they pulled.
 
LordBaron said:
Yeah, M&K, right?

Funny how all it needed to get to some good, dramatic stuff was to allow two other writers to create a filler arc...
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Yuh, same as the rest of the season. And the volumes before that.

It's like someone told them to write something good for once in their lives, and while this isn't good, per say. It's definitely "good" by their pre-established standards for the show.
 
Salem is still a bad villain. Doesn't matter if she killed Summer. Summer is more of a background prop than a character.

Ironwoon's fall to villainy is still forced and comes off as rooted in how no one is allowed to oppose RWBY in what they do without being "Evil" or shamed somehow.
 
Rondo Richter Belmont said:
James was in the right to chew the team out, with special mentions to Little Miss Idealism, along with Bumblefuck 1 and 2 who literally shit things up with their own idiocy~ Seriously, if Hill had been a Salem Agent or anything that wasn't for "The people of Mantle" this would be a very risky gamble in which everything would get more fucked than what the end result had been in this show.

And for Ruby, she absolutely deserved it because she showed that she couldn't prevent herself from acting like Ozpin while making herself, alongside her team, and JNR bigger hypocrites than old Ozzy (Well, in the case of Jaune and Yang, even bigger thanks to their secrets) before it blows up in her face worse than a scheme done by Wile E. Coyote.
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OddEyes said:
But back to the mistrust issue... I don't really see why this is really much of an issue at this point - Since, well, Oscar already blabbed about what the group did to him, and yes, he was shaken, but he was already resolved to fight.

Look, the latest episode might've been good, and hey, I actually like Ironwood as a character, but we can't look at this episode in a vacuum. And with all the BS for this episode, it does taint it... Especially when Team RWBY acts like they have a say in what should be done at this point after the bullshit they pulled.
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Sayon said:
Ironwoon's fall to villainy is still forced and comes off as rooted in how no one is allowed to oppose RWBY in what they do without being "Evil" or shamed somehow.
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The thing is that Ironwood managed to knock Team RWBY down a peg, and the more critical and cynical fans are hoping that Team RWBY stays down and ends rotting in an Atlesian prison. As a result, I'm thinking that V8 will have RWBY and JNR on the run as fugitives, branded as rogue with their Huntsmen licenses revoked and/or disavowed by Ironwood (who issued said licenses).

As for Salem, I think I figured the method of writing her, thanks to this shit and volume 5 and Ozpin: ave the heroes do a bunch of shady shit, and then Salem shows up and does crazier shit just so CRWBY can hit you and your theorizing over the head to tell you that it's Salem who's the real villain.

Sayon said:
Salem is still a bad villain. Doesn't matter if she killed Summer. Summer is more of a background prop than a character.
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Blame the show for not addressing her for years. And letting fans hype up Team STRQ as super badasses with theorizing of skills and powers and awesomeness that no writing can match. Also, you could argue that the important part s that she's dead and since this show hasn't seen a fan theory that they didn't want to use, have her blood be on Ozpin's hands.
 
madethistocomment said:
Apparently some people in the fandom are claiming that Ironwood's slowly turning into Adam? I'm not really watching the show anymore, so could someone share if that's accurate or not?

Knowing the FNDM he's probably just yelled Blake and Yang for doing something exceptional, which means he's an evil abuser male who hates lesbians because the Bees can do no wrong.
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It's more like how Game of Thrones made one of its main characters a villain near the end of its show. They foreshadow James being crazy, yeah, but it still feels like it came out of nowhere.
 
LordBaron said:
It's more like how Game of Thrones made one of its main characters a villain near the end of its show. They foreshadow James being crazy, yeah, but it still feels like it came out of nowhere.
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I'd say it's more paranoid than crazy. But honestly, if the descent was more even and Team RWBY didn't have the morality chip on their shoulder, he probably wouldn't be seen as a dictator.
 
Silver Chariot said:
aight, real talk, why do you guys even like this show?

like I know someone who catches every episode but only ironically
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I'm here for the trainwreck - I watched for a few years unironically but saw the quality dropping very hard to a point where Season 7 is just a blender of garbage to me, to a point where it's very funny. RWBY realistically (and as RT falls apart more and more) can't go on forever and it feels like it's acknowledged in the most recent episode by "Remember me? Salem? -THE REAL VILLIAN-" being thrown in at the end of the episode. It's another full arc where the villains trick the heroes again - another full ~12 episodes wasted where the characters do nothing, learn nothing, and nothing important happens.

I would imagine that RWBY will end with Season 10 - considering the trouble the company is having, how lackluster the show is, and how they seem to have trouble retaining talent. Hopefully, they'll get to actually end it instead of it dying abruptly like a cancellation, but even if they do - it's going to be fucking bad. They don't really have the writing talent or the time to making something good out of what they have - it's going to be rushed and sloppy. I would liken it to Game of Thrones - the first few seasons were good and had a nice, deep, slow pace only for the show to have to jump to rocket speed in the last two seasons.
 
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What the fuck even is this list?
  • The fantasy element ends up front loading a bunch of magic shit out of nowhere and completely upends the balanced system by having it be that the magic users always have a leg up to science.
  • That only last until the end of Volume 3, then they all become bitter, sociopathic jerks.
  • Like how it's okay to ditch your crippled friend to hang out with your family even when your psycho ex tells you straight up that his personal mission is to kill said friend.
  • And with every improvement, there's two steps they take backwards.
  • If you forget that they also had a backlash against critics who are more concerned with the direction the show's going.
  • Too bad we don't see any of the setting and instead are fixed to reused sets every Volume.
  • They handle most topics with the subtlety of Reefer Madness.
  • Instead, the show will sell itself out to shippers.
  • Eh, okay, I'll give this one a pass. I'd make the joke about the Blake Faunus twist, but that still bends to the "foreshadowing" thing.
  • When they're not wasting time just standing and talking.
  • Too bad no one uses the gun part of their weapon, even when it's more pragmatic that way.
  • Tokenism.
 
Random Internet Person said:
The thing is that Ironwood managed to knock Team RWBY down a peg, and the more critical and cynical fans are hoping that Team RWBY stays down and ends rotting in an Atlesian prison. As a result, I'm thinking that V8 will have RWBY and JNR on the run as fugitives, branded as rogue with their Huntsmen licenses revoked and/or disavowed by Ironwood (who issued said licenses).
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I get the feeling they'll go both ways with the premise (arrest them then they break out) and make it so half-baked they drop it all mid-vol. 8 because of reasons.

Optimistically, I hope the villains actually do get a proper victory, that way the huntsteams can learn the hard way their actions have severe consequences.Even if it means killing off a good chunk of the cast and setting to do so (I'm willing to bet that Qrow's still going to bite it considering he's basically just gelled into the background unless needed, but if James, Robyn, the Schnees, Ace-Ops and almost everyone else in Atlas and Mantle also bite it, that'd actually be interesting to see how it pans out). But I have my doubts they'll even send them to jail, let alone make them fugitives because of just how dumb M&K are when handling such ideas in the first place.

Silver Chariot said:
aight, real talk, why do you guys even like this show?

like I know someone who catches every episode but only ironically
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Mostly because it's this much of a trainwreck that it's hard to ignore even if you want to. Between the real life happenings at RT and the slipshod nature of the show's production as it unfolds onscreen, it's the perfect blend of dumb, but watchable for all the wrong reasons.

That and once I commit to a seasonal show, I end up watching it to completion as I'm a sadist, it's why I'll end up watching modern day Simpsons despite how shit it is these days. And I'd argue its (lack of) quality is even less excusable that RWBY's as its a multi-million dollar franchise owned by one of the biggest corporations in the world that's just getting by on the fumes of its former relevancy. While the latter's an indie show made by incompetents who can barely figure out what their main character is supposed to do, much less everything else.
 
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