RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[Roland Daggett]

Yeah, pairings will always be apart of a series whether it has romance or not but I cannot fathom why any creator / showrunner / author / whatever would cater to those freaks who only watch / read their product in hopes of their OTP coming true...Voltron Legendary Defender is a cautionary tale of that, and you know what made that even more hilarious? They fled to My Hero Academia, doing the same thing as before where they hope the creator puts Kirishima and Bakugou together lol.

Shipping in an of itself is innocent enough. People want two characters to hook up and that's natural. It's the bottom dwelling scum that obsess over it and attack and threaten people that makes it a problem. They're the ones that stalk and harass people for not liking their ships or saying they're not canon. They're usually some of the worst cretins in fandoms and why I try to stay away from fandoms in general.

Monty's vision was to have cute girls fighting monsters with elaborate fight choreography. His worldbuilding tropes were almost entirely cribbed from 90s Final Fantasy. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just not worth deep-diving considering the man's been dead for five years now.

Monty admittedly wasn't a great writer. He had simple ideas and said himself he needed people to help him with that. Had Monty gotten the help of at least one good writer RWBY could have been amazing start to finish. Even losing Monty had there been one or two good writers the show could have continued strongly. It might not have been exactly what Monty would have done but it would have been enjoyable. But unfortunately we have Sped 1 and Sped 2 writing the show and they couldn't write a halfway decent story if someone literally wrote it out for them.

 

[Sayon]

Same reason the Fellowship didn't chuck the ring into the ocean. Eventually the lands would shift allowing access to it again. Sauron (and Salem) were immortal and could wait.

Bad attempt to defend poor writing. Sauron commanded armies that were actively terrorizing Middle-Earth and destroying the ring was necessary to break his power. Salem's power does not depend on the Relics, she's just been sitting in her castle for who knows how long leaving world conquest to her obviously incapable minions, and unlike Sauron has practically no one who can challenge her directly (while there was enough evidence that Saruman and Gandalf himself could've challenged Sauron if either took the ring).

Also, we're told what it is about Frodo that makes it so that he has to be the one to carry the ring (he's a hobbit). Meanwhile there's nothing about Ruby that makes it so she and/or posse have to be the ones to have the Relic or otherwise go around fighting Salem's band of losers instead of leaving it to Ironwood and Company. Doubly since Oz ran away crying.

 

[Garm]

Bad attempt to defend poor writing. Sauron commanded armies that were actively terrorizing Middle-Earth and destroying the ring was necessary to break his power. Salem's power does not depend on the Relics, she's just been sitting in her castle for who knows how long leaving world conquest to her obviously incapable minions, and unlike Sauron has practically no one who can challenge her directly (while there was enough evidence that Saruman and Gandalf himself could've challenged Sauron if either took the ring).

Also, we're told what it is about Frodo that makes it so that he has to be the one to carry the ring (he's a hobbit). Meanwhile there's nothing about Ruby that makes it so she and/or posse have to be the ones to have the Relic or otherwise go around fighting Salem's band of losers instead of leaving it to Ironwood and Company. Doubly since Oz ran away crying.

Grimm already terrorize Remnant. You don't need to directly command armies if you have a force of nature that will do the work for you.

The only beings that can destroy Salem are the gods and since they are AWOL the relics are the closest thing to a weapon Remnant has to threaten Salem. Especially since the gods promised to destroy humanity if they haven't learned to live in peace so calling the gods is a bad idea.

Salem could take over unchallenged. I concede that point.

Ruby is doing everything out of a sense of duty. That's what being a huntsman means to her.

 

[Sayon]

Grimm already terrorize Remnant. You don't need to directly command armies if you have a force of nature that will do the work for you.

Grimm have long ceased to be a narrative relevant threat.

The only beings that can destroy Salem are the gods and since they are AWOL the relics are the closest thing to a weapon Remnant has to threaten Salem. Especially since the gods promised to destroy humanity if they haven't learned to live in peace so calling the gods is a bad idea.

That doesn't counter what I said at all.

Salem could take over unchallenged. I concede that point.

And that's bad writing. Even damn Thundercats bothered to give Mumm-Ra a notable weakness in that he needs the approval of his dark gods to have his dark power unleashed. Salem has no such weakness and yet it's established she seeks to rule Remnant.

Ruby is doing everything out of a sense of duty. That's what being a huntsman means to her.

None of that would require her not just giving the Relic to Ironwood except for her sudden and forced hatred of adults combined with the plot forcing her as a savior figure (obvious attempt to make up for the complaints of how little relevance Ruby had to her setting even with the Silver Eyes).

 

[Random Internet Person]

None of that would require her not just giving the Relic to Ironwood except for her sudden and forced hatred of adults combined with the plot forcing her as a savior figure (obvious attempt to make up for the complaints of how little relevance Ruby had to her setting even with the Silver Eyes).

I thought the complaint was that Silver Eyes weren't explained and Ruby wasn't asking about them.

 

[Fougaro]

Was waiting until all the parts were released, but someone on YouTube made a series of videos trying to determine what Monty’s vision for RWBY really was.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r5JKAQ_2TUghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=R9XYzqrYbcYhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=slKaemvHUKo

Part 1 at 09:20. I think in reality the phone call went more like this.

MONTY: Red, white, black, yellow.

KERRY: Yes Monty, these are nice colors, but it's 03:00 am.

MONTY: No. That's a team. They're four girls.

KERRY: Monty, have you been licking these funny looking frogs again?

MONTY: Hey, we should make an anime.

KERRY: Look Monty, we love you man but that frog thing of yours is worrying all of us.

I can't speak for others, but at least for me the issue isn't want Monty's vision is and given that he's dead, and thus it's impossible to truly know, it's a moot discussion. The real problem is that from the very beginning they failed to hire a competent writer/director that would have tard wrangled the CRWBY in time. Without the writing being such a clusterfuck, at the very least RWBY's future wouldn't rest on the mercy of autistic shippers.

 

[Sayon]

I thought the complaint was that Silver Eyes weren't explained and Ruby wasn't asking about them.

No no, it was pointed out that Ruby is the one designated protagonist among RWBY since, even with the Silver Eyes, she's not especially relevant to her setting. Weiss, Blake, even Yang have more tying them to the world around them than Ruby. Summer hardly counts.

Point is Ruby has always been the worst of the main cast short of Blake (who's offensive rather than just meh).

 

[Garm]

Grimm have long ceased to be a narrative relevant threat.



That doesn't counter what I said at all.



And that's bad writing. Even damn Thundercats bothered to give Mumm-Ra a notable weakness in that he needs the approval of his dark gods to have his dark power unleashed. Salem has no such weakness and yet it's established she seeks to rule Remnant.



None of that would require her not just giving the Relic to Ironwood except for her sudden and forced hatred of adults combined with the plot forcing her as a savior figure (obvious attempt to make up for the complaints of how little relevance Ruby had to her setting even with the Silver Eyes).

Thinking about it now Salem did rule an empire at one point. We don't know caused that to fall apart. I figure that Salem and Ozpin have been tearing down each other's empires for years at this point.

I will agree that the Ironwood stuff is bad writing. RWBY is heading into broken Aesop territory.

The problem isn't that Ironwood is authoritarian. The problem is he is the wrong kind of authoritarian. He allows racists into his organization. And team RWBY will ignore his arguments that he is preparing for a seige and needs all the grist for the meatgrinder that is coming.

After the seige RWBY will insist that whatever new government enforce equality in Atlas. It won't matter that they are using the same tactics as they decried before because "yay! Equality and Liberalism!"

 

[Tanner Glass]

I can't speak for others, but at least for me the issue isn't want Monty's vision is and given that he's dead, and thus it's impossible to truly know, it's a moot discussion. The real problem is that from the very beginning they failed to hire a competent writer/director that would have tard wrangled the CRWBY in time. Without the writing being such a clusterfuck, at the very least the RWBY's future wouldn't rest on the mercy of autistic shippers.

I think that people really focus on the writing (which is mediocre-to-hilariously bad) but another really large issue is the pacing and format. The format started as a web show (sub 10 minute episodes, sometimes 6 minutes) 10 or 12 times a week, which is only enough time to tell a small story but they insist on trying to tell this gigantic one instead.

The show just wastes so much fucking time, it's like the entire show is filler. Even when they moved to 15+ minutes/episode they're still doing nothing with the time they're given. It took seven years to (maybe) kill off a side villian (Adam) in a remarkably unsatisfying fashion. They run 12 episodes a season, and some episodes are straight filler or really short. Most other animes run 20-25 longer episodes a season, meaning they're able to get much more done. My personal issue with RWBY is just how not advanced the plot is after nearly a decade.

My Hero Acadameia got to thier "unbelivably hype moment" (All Might v One for All - Part 2) that drastically changed the plot and story inside of ~50 episodes, 3 years. Bleach got through the entire setup of the world + an entire full arc in 41 episodes, 2 years. Dragon Ball Z (the slowest show ever) still manages to clear our arcs within ~40 episodes, ~3 years. RWBY is running on ~83 episodes across ~7 years and hasn't resolved much of anything but still somehow made time to include Yang and Blake holding hands, or Yang going double gay over Blake's new haircut.

 

[Random Internet Person]

No no, it was pointed out that Ruby is the one designated protagonist among RWBY since, even with the Silver Eyes, she's not especially relevant to her setting. Weiss, Blake, even Yang have more tying them to the world around them than Ruby. Summer hardly counts.

Point is Ruby has always been the worst of the main cast short of Blake (who's offensive rather than just meh).

That makes more sense. IIRC, they tried to make a big deal of Ruby getting into Beacon early, but aside from that, nothing really. I mean, V5 had people joking Jaune was the real main character. Personally, I'm just waiting for the revelation of Summer being dead and her blood is on Ozpin's hands, which I've seen a lot of fanfics do.

I think that people really focus on the writing (which is mediocre-to-hilariously bad) but another really large issue is the pacing and format. The format started as a web show (sub 10 minute episodes, sometimes 6 minutes) 10 or 12 times a week, which is only enough time to tell a small story but they insist on trying to tell this gigantic one instead.

The show just wastes so much fucking time, it's like the entire show is filler. Even when they moved to 15+ minutes/episode they're still doing nothing with the time they're given. It took seven years to (maybe) kill off a side villian (Adam) in a remarkably unsatisfying fashion. They run 12 episodes a season, and some episodes are straight filler or really short. Most other animes run 20-25 longer episodes a season, meaning they're able to get much more done. My personal issue with RWBY is just how not advanced the plot is after nearly a decade.

My Hero Acadameia got to thier "unbelivably hype moment" (All Might v One for All - Part 2) that drastically changed the plot and story inside of ~50 episodes, 3 years. Bleach got through the entire setup of the world + an entire full arc in 41 episodes, 2 years. Dragon Ball Z (the slowest show ever) still manages to clear our arcs within ~40 episodes, ~3 years. RWBY is running on ~83 episodes across ~7 years and hasn't resolved much of anything but still somehow made time to include Yang and Blake holding hands, or Yang going double gay over Blake's new haircut.

Yeah, I've heard that too. It took to V6 to reach the point of answering fan questions, and even with Gray cutting V5's legs from under it, they still couldn't manage to answer any questions people had or show anything interesting (AKA make something out of nothing). I've heard that for what RWBY wants to do, they need to either add ten minutes to each episode, add ten minutes to each episode, or take some time off to better develop the show between volumes.

Part 1 at 09:20. I think in reality the phone call went more like this.

MONTY: Red, white, black, yellow.

KERRY: Yes Monty, these are nice colors, but it's 03:00 am.

MONTY: No. That's a team. They're four girls.

KERRY: Monty, have you been licking these funny looking frogs again?

MONTY: Hey, we should make an anime.

KERRY: Look Monty, we love you man but that frog thing of yours is worrying all of us.

I can't speak for others, but at least for me the issue isn't want Monty's vision is and given that he's dead, and thus it's impossible to truly know, it's a moot discussion. The real problem is that from the very beginning they failed to hire a competent writer/director that would have tard wrangled the CRWBY in time. Without the writing being such a clusterfuck, at the very least RWBY's future wouldn't rest on the mercy of autistic shippers.

I'd blame that on RT still running things like it's 2007 and they're just a bunch of guys screwing around in Halo.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Yeah, I've heard that too. It took to V6 to reach the point of answering fan questions, and even with Gray cutting V5's legs from under it, they still couldn't manage to answer any questions people had or show anything interesting (AKA make something out of nothing). I've heard that for what RWBY wants to do, they need to either add ten minutes to each episode, add ten minutes to each episode, or take some time off to better develop the show between volumes.

The problem is that they just keep setting new things up without closing any old arcs (+retcons). I get it, from a business sense, they want to keep the show going but at this point they have to wind some shit down. You can close out an arc and start a new one, it doesn't need to be all in one arc.

The show already has so many fucking characters - eight (RWBY+JNR+Qrow) "main" characters, not including side characters (like Ironwood+Winter++Oscar/Ozpin+Old Lady+Robot Girl+like ten other people) and at least ~10 different villians, there's like ~40 characters to keep track of and they're still adding more.

More time per episode could help, but even if they were running full hour episodes they still likely wouldn't be anywhere because of how meandering the writing is. The show doesn't really have a clear focus or an actual "main" character, which is something you really need to establish in the first few episodes.

As much as I like JNR - that shit really needs to be a spinoff because it siphons so much time away from the main plot.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The problem is that they just keep setting new things up without closing any old arcs (+retcons). I get it, from a business sense, they want to keep the show going but at this point they have to wind some shit down. You can close out an arc and start a new one, it doesn't need to be all in one arc.

The show already has so many fucking characters - eight (RWBY+JNR+Qrow) "main" characters, not including side characters (like Ironwood+Winter++Oscar/Ozpin+Old Lady+Robot Girl+like ten other people) and at least ~10 different villians, there's like ~40 characters to keep track of and they're still adding more.

More time per episode could help, but even if they were running full hour episodes they still likely wouldn't be anywhere because of how meandering the writing is. The show doesn't really have a clear focus or an actual "main" character, which is something you really need to establish in the first few episodes.

As much as I like JNR - that shit really needs to be a spinoff because it siphons so much time away from the main plot.

Honestly, if anybody’s going to get a spin-off, it’s Team STRQ. The fans love those guys.

 

[Sayon]

That makes more sense. IIRC, they tried to make a big deal of Ruby getting into Beacon early, but aside from that, nothing really. I mean, V5 had people joking Jaune was the real main character. Personally, I'm just waiting for the revelation of Summer being dead and her blood is on Ozpin's hands, which I've seen a lot of fanfics do.

He wouldn't have her blood on his hands anymore than any other commanding officer does for his subordinates deaths. Even less than that since Summer from all evidence volunteered, she was not drafted.

Niggas just try too hard to make Ozpin look "evil" so that Salem can be justified and that RWBY with Qrow weren't throwing a tantrum against him. The former especially since I'm sure Opzin went in the direction he did in V6 so that they could both build on early hints he was more than what he seemed and throw bones to the mentioned fans saying he was a ''villain" all along.

 

[Random Internet Person]

He wouldn't have her blood on his hands anymore than any other commanding officer does for his subordinates deaths. Even less than that since Summer from all evidence volunteered, she was not drafted.

Niggas just try too hard to make Ozpin look "evil" so that Salem can be justified and that RWBY with Qrow weren't throwing a tantrum against him. The former especially since I'm sure Opzin went in the direction he did in V6 so that they could both build on early hints he was more than what he seemed and throw to the mentioned fans saying he was a ''villain" all along.

Oh yeah. Salem’s backstory was there just to put the foot down on who the real villain is, and address the shady shot Ozpin had done, and it may have hurt Salem (not sure if that was because she was hyped to real high expectations). Honestly, all that’s left for Ozpin is to expose how Ruby and her team are nothing but pawns in a game of cosmic chess.

I brought up Summer because the show says that Ruby didn’t take her dying very well and Yang had to grow up fast. So it’d be a big deal and how Ozpin’s shit was handwaved by some shit about “choice”. Honestly it seems the only way to address pressing issues is to shout loud enough for long enough.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Team RWBY makes guest appearances in everyone's favorite MOBA, Smite:

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

Team RWBY makes guest appearances in everyone's favorite MOBA, Smite:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XbUzOxA7Uwo

Holy shit, that artstyle gives Weiss no help.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Holy shit, that artstyle gives Weiss no help.

That artstyle makes all the females in the game look so damn ugly. It's making me prefer RT's chickenshit CGI renders in comparison just becuase they don't like Dobson-inspired uggos.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

That artstyle makes all the females in the game look so damn ugly. It's making me prefer RT's chickenshit CGI renders in comparison just becuase they don't like Dobson-inspired uggos.

And they are also new designs... meh hard pass for me. Not like I play that game anyway, but this isn't making me change my mind to go an try it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Not sure if posted already.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

Not sure if posted already. https://youtube.com/watch?v=z6ZroB-_pL0

I honestly didn't think watching live action exceptionalism would give me a headache, but god damn it RT, you're full of surprises.