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💼 Careercow Roy "Dr. P" Philipose - Delusional "Super Genius" Who Gets Assblasted by Trolling Daily; Tried to ask Elon Musk for a CEO Job.
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Roy never wants money to pay down his debts. He intends to die with that debt unpaid. He wants money for things for himself, and for validation. I doubt he would even get his kid a present.
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Speaking of, I made the mistake of checking his twitter, he's been sharing 20+ year old rap songs, he's so hip.
But, this tweet stuck out :
So Roy feels the little guy never gets a fair shake or start. Only rich people help rich people etc, then he advises, don't help start ups. What is it Roy?
Now this tweet is even funnier, because well his advice sucks BUT he fucking tags stocks and stock market, where he suggests not owning stocks. Now, what about the word equity? For an investor two things stand out, he's talking about different strats and investment vehicles, in this case you'd not say equities but stocks. Also you'd be plural. So it's not just a typo, it's a mis use of a term.
For what he said (with out him knowing) is 30% of your investments should be things you own, part of. So yes super diamond Roy is saying, your mortgage, and car loan are part of your investments... One could argue the first but that's splitting hairs and unrelated to Roy being flat out incorrect, and comical.
I am not that smart but, if you ask me my net worth, I wouldn't say I owe the bank another 100k on my house, so I'm rich!
Lastly, why the FUCK would you put 20% into cash right now, super economist Roy doesn't understand inflation hurts cash holders, I do suggest personally and professionally, having cash on hand in any wealth growth account, for a number of reasons but unless I was stated by order of a client holding 1/5 in something were seeing a 7+% loss right now is absurd.
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I think Roy should check his own history, and possibly delete it
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No, his history should be immortal and he should never be rid of it.
Fortunately, he is guaranteeing that with his constant complaining. He's the one keeping the memory of his idiocy alive.
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I meant if he ever wanted a chance at employment, he should delete his history. It will remain here forever though
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You're right about that. He dooms himself by continuing to bring it up. And that's fine by me.
More wypipo sperging:
Roy, white people all over the place will tell you all about these things. It is not white people who are trying to hide history. It's you. And it's your personal history, not just the history of people you physically resemble. You lie, dissemble, and distract like mad in order to rewrite the events of your dumbest day (so far, that we know of). You have no business lecturing anyone on historical revision.
As for GTFOH? Good luck with that. If anyone is leaving, it's you, and only if you nut up and act on your violent bigotry. Until then, keep on fulminating publicly. Don't let anyone forget Elon/11, no matter what.
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He thinks that him being a Pajeet has anything to do with why we laugh at him. If he was white, Elon would have hired him on the spot, apparently.
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Why are we all white ? Also I do want to ask Roy something, apparently only white people did bad things, who's from a country that STILL HAS A FUCKING CASTE SYSTEM.
I'm sorry, one thing about America, is sure the richest and connected get away with more, on paper they are equal, a place like "evil" white Europe used to have lords ladies who could spit on you fuck your wife or just take your shit all because they were "better" than the avg joe. In fact most of the world has had a ruling class like that or worse over time, lets not start talking about how insane some of the shit old Japanese lords did, or how Roy is ethnically from a country where there are a people, human beings like you and I who are "untouchable"(for those unaware the lowest Indian caste is literally called this)
Roy choose like many other professional victims (the only job he's able to manage and he half asses this) is take something you have no control over and make that the issue. Look at his crying about the Tesla meeting HE brought up for the 50964854094 time, Roy's given us around a half decade of milk and rage he's the one who keeps talking about Tesla melt down. He can't even keep the story straight, he admits he was told not to talk about it but refused to listen, then it's a mental break down, now it's racism. Why not point out Elon fucks a lot of women man, he does.... he's a sexist and if Roy was a Royette, (s)he'd be hired right there. It has nothing to do with his lack of a Resume, skills, talent or at the time even a degree. Also fuck man do you know how much digging now a days a mere fucking 17/h bank teller deals with? Someone who's barely as useful (no disrespect to tellers but I mean in what they can offer in services) than a fucking ATM something from the 80s. So to think you're able to skip things like back round checks ,HR or interviews and just get ANY job shows how insanely off he is. Heck I know a guy who's very talented and used to run his own butcher shop Covid yada yada, he needed part time work... just to fucking cut chicken heads off he needed call backs and what not that's in this current economy where everyone is hiring!
It's also telling Roy's anger at "whites" only seems to go to Americans, Roy... I don't know how to tell you this, Elon is African. So you better keep sucking up to him lol.
Lastly, since not enough people are aware and it truly makes me sick, slavery is alive and well in this world today. In fact thanks to the booming populations, more slaves are around now, than over history. Sick isn't it? Want to guess the skin colors of the only real players in slavery now? It's not white or black! Yea it's very sad and again I don't care what race is doing it it's gross but since I personally want to see Slavery end for the sake of information and educating people this shit still happens, it's Asians and Arabs who are tied to it the most, really scary stuff and sad. Slavery sucks but people who aren't educated on it, like Roy pretend white people just showed up stole a bunch of black people and that's the history of slaves. A fun counter point, in Greece, many wise people educated and respected were slaves, slavery was more a class thing (something Roy's home land still does) Diogenes one of the biggest trolls in human history, and he was so wise he used to slap Plato around in debates for the lulz was a slave for a part of his life.
Roy wanting to use government forces to get his wish of being super diamond CEO is in no way not ok with slavery as long as he's the Southern Gentleman sipping sweet tea while the rest of us niggers pick his cotton.
I'm sorry, one thing about America, is sure the richest and connected get away with more, on paper they are equal, a place like "evil" white Europe used to have lords ladies who could spit on you fuck your wife or just take your shit all because they were "better" than the avg joe. In fact most of the world has had a ruling class like that or worse over time, lets not start talking about how insane some of the shit old Japanese lords did, or how Roy is ethnically from a country where there are a people, human beings like you and I who are "untouchable"(for those unaware the lowest Indian caste is literally called this)
Roy choose like many other professional victims (the only job he's able to manage and he half asses this) is take something you have no control over and make that the issue. Look at his crying about the Tesla meeting HE brought up for the 50964854094 time, Roy's given us around a half decade of milk and rage he's the one who keeps talking about Tesla melt down. He can't even keep the story straight, he admits he was told not to talk about it but refused to listen, then it's a mental break down, now it's racism. Why not point out Elon fucks a lot of women man, he does.... he's a sexist and if Roy was a Royette, (s)he'd be hired right there. It has nothing to do with his lack of a Resume, skills, talent or at the time even a degree. Also fuck man do you know how much digging now a days a mere fucking 17/h bank teller deals with? Someone who's barely as useful (no disrespect to tellers but I mean in what they can offer in services) than a fucking ATM something from the 80s. So to think you're able to skip things like back round checks ,HR or interviews and just get ANY job shows how insanely off he is. Heck I know a guy who's very talented and used to run his own butcher shop Covid yada yada, he needed part time work... just to fucking cut chicken heads off he needed call backs and what not that's in this current economy where everyone is hiring!
It's also telling Roy's anger at "whites" only seems to go to Americans, Roy... I don't know how to tell you this, Elon is African. So you better keep sucking up to him lol.
Lastly, since not enough people are aware and it truly makes me sick, slavery is alive and well in this world today. In fact thanks to the booming populations, more slaves are around now, than over history. Sick isn't it? Want to guess the skin colors of the only real players in slavery now? It's not white or black! Yea it's very sad and again I don't care what race is doing it it's gross but since I personally want to see Slavery end for the sake of information and educating people this shit still happens, it's Asians and Arabs who are tied to it the most, really scary stuff and sad. Slavery sucks but people who aren't educated on it, like Roy pretend white people just showed up stole a bunch of black people and that's the history of slaves. A fun counter point, in Greece, many wise people educated and respected were slaves, slavery was more a class thing (something Roy's home land still does) Diogenes one of the biggest trolls in human history, and he was so wise he used to slap Plato around in debates for the lulz was a slave for a part of his life.
Roy wanting to use government forces to get his wish of being super diamond CEO is in no way not ok with slavery as long as he's the Southern Gentleman sipping sweet tea while the rest of us niggers pick his cotton.
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It occurs to me that Roy believes in magic. Specifically, he believes that if he just says the right words, people will give him everything he wants.
However, he specifically believes in black magic. He's not casting spells to make people happy, or make them like him. He's trying to appeal to unearned guilt and shame, to weaken them into giving him things. Not only does he want to win, he wants you to lose.
It's no different from the trans scammers who natter incessantly about "life-saving surgery". They know they lack the constitution for suicide. They just want to make you do what they want, by weakening your resolve to maintain a realistic world view in the face of their crybullying.
And that's why I can't stand this piece of shit. I don't mind that he wants more than he has, or even more than he deserves. I wouldn't mind getting that myself. It's that he wants to take it from me at my expense, and make me feel bad in the process.
Well, fuck you, Roy. I know you read this thread. I'm putting my will into hoping that you get nothing that you demand in this way. Until you can learn to give of yourself, you are not worthy to receive. So mote it be, bitch.
However, he specifically believes in black magic. He's not casting spells to make people happy, or make them like him. He's trying to appeal to unearned guilt and shame, to weaken them into giving him things. Not only does he want to win, he wants you to lose.
It's no different from the trans scammers who natter incessantly about "life-saving surgery". They know they lack the constitution for suicide. They just want to make you do what they want, by weakening your resolve to maintain a realistic world view in the face of their crybullying.
And that's why I can't stand this piece of shit. I don't mind that he wants more than he has, or even more than he deserves. I wouldn't mind getting that myself. It's that he wants to take it from me at my expense, and make me feel bad in the process.
Well, fuck you, Roy. I know you read this thread. I'm putting my will into hoping that you get nothing that you demand in this way. Until you can learn to give of yourself, you are not worthy to receive. So mote it be, bitch.
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That's funny Roy, anyone with google can look up corps and their owners. I can't find anything registered to you, so you don't own a company. You are lying. Flat out, a liar.
Why do I deserve harm? Prove you own a company, because lets say you do, you're using someone else's name, or umbrellaed under family, or is the SoC a big fibber?
You don't have a job, you don't invest (and your play time stock picks you went bust on) so how do you expect to be part of the cool kids 7+ figure club? Oh I know, you keep spamming Elon Musk to give you money. Your entire game plan is just have rich people make you rich.
Speaking of being rich, how's your totally criminal attempt at a hedge fund going? Would you like to post some of the stuff, you do know all that is public info right? So anything you sent to the gov to open it anyone is allowed to see. We investors like that stuff because it stops scams, and if we did our shit right brings investors to us. I know you like to play pretend and will say I'm trying to steal your social or some dumb shit but a lot of fiscal info is all open book because the investors have a right to know who/what they are dealing with, and the corps want to show the assets growth etc.
Also love that he randomly spews hate at rich people to fucking Golf Digest totally not unhinged behavior. Very stable thoughts for sure.
I won't disagree with his tweet, Philly is over taxed and a dump of a city. Frankly I don't really like trying to get into my office when a junkie is sleeping on the bench or the pot holes that make me so scared I don't take my car in (replacing rims ain't cheap) leaving me doomed to public transit. But Roy is part of the drain, he's able bodied could work and pay tax to the city yet chooses not to. There's a sidewalk with a crack and it's Roy's fault.
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To trifling point, but the tweet only says that he can run a company, not that he does. Mind you, that's a demonstrable lie as well, but it's not quite the lie I think you read.
No, Roy, people do not deserve harm because they don't believe you can run a company. You deserve harm for wishing harm on people who are expressing reasonable opinions. Fortunately, you are bringing that harm to bear upon yourself, so it all works out.
No, Roy, people do not deserve harm because they don't believe you can run a company. You deserve harm for wishing harm on people who are expressing reasonable opinions. Fortunately, you are bringing that harm to bear upon yourself, so it all works out.
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Perhaps I did get a little too off track on Roys babble, but as he loves to lie about we are an equal country in regards to law. If Roy is so damn smart and good, why not open a DBA or LLC? The costs are VERY low for the sheer reason, we want people to go out and make their way in the world. Earning ones way and independence are foundings of this nation.
Roys the #1 tips rank pro, a DBA costs less than a dinner at Butcher and Singer, Capital grill or any of the other spots the better off choose to eat at in Philly. Hell, with inflation.... a DBA isn't much more than a Big Mac combo now a days.
Really to get an EIN is free, the DBA under 100 USD. Our gov WANTS people to go get it and hustle. Why? Taxes, you know shit Roy doesn't pay since he doesn't have a job or anything.
People all over say he can't run a company, and he's proven it by not doing so. There's nothing stopping him, but he cries the victim and doesn't work. Felons can run an LLC, I don't mean to call Roy a felon but I mean people who legally have lost the right to vote, own a fire arm etc, can still go work if they choose. In fact with out side tracking too much if you are mentally handicapped to needing warding/guardian ship you can hold an LLC (long story short someone who's a nice guy but room temp IQ got a house from a parent whom passed and LLC could keep it to protect his asset and benefits oh, and he works part time, so a literal retard is more productive than Roy).
It's not just he can't run something, he wont because just like his fake little stock game, he runs away and hides when he fails. Roy's the kinda guy who trips in loafers and blames his shoe laces, then is shocked when people laugh at him.
Roys the #1 tips rank pro, a DBA costs less than a dinner at Butcher and Singer, Capital grill or any of the other spots the better off choose to eat at in Philly. Hell, with inflation.... a DBA isn't much more than a Big Mac combo now a days.
Really to get an EIN is free, the DBA under 100 USD. Our gov WANTS people to go get it and hustle. Why? Taxes, you know shit Roy doesn't pay since he doesn't have a job or anything.
People all over say he can't run a company, and he's proven it by not doing so. There's nothing stopping him, but he cries the victim and doesn't work. Felons can run an LLC, I don't mean to call Roy a felon but I mean people who legally have lost the right to vote, own a fire arm etc, can still go work if they choose. In fact with out side tracking too much if you are mentally handicapped to needing warding/guardian ship you can hold an LLC (long story short someone who's a nice guy but room temp IQ got a house from a parent whom passed and LLC could keep it to protect his asset and benefits oh, and he works part time, so a literal retard is more productive than Roy).
It's not just he can't run something, he wont because just like his fake little stock game, he runs away and hides when he fails. Roy's the kinda guy who trips in loafers and blames his shoe laces, then is shocked when people laugh at him.
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Well, when Roy says he can run a company, what he really means is that someone should hand him a company to run. I gather he realizes how entitled that would sound, so he phrases it in another way, but that's really what he means.
He claims to have run a company before, "Royalus" or something, but the company did nothing real and he may not even have registered it. Still, by his own standards, he was allowed to run a company. It's only his fault that it came to nothing.
It's not the system holding Roy back. It's his own incompetence and sense of entitlement. Until he demonstrates some sort of positive capability, there's no reason to give him any job at all, much less a company to run into the ground.
He claims to have run a company before, "Royalus" or something, but the company did nothing real and he may not even have registered it. Still, by his own standards, he was allowed to run a company. It's only his fault that it came to nothing.
It's not the system holding Roy back. It's his own incompetence and sense of entitlement. Until he demonstrates some sort of positive capability, there's no reason to give him any job at all, much less a company to run into the ground.
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It's still in business from what I believe. The website he keeps for it is still being maintained: https://sites.google.com/view/royalusgroup
There's also a Royalus LLC associated with his address (which is how he got doxed on page 7) (from Pennsylvania business registry):
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A few relatively unexciting Roy updates.
Roy claps at Elon Musk for calling himself a genius (O the irony) and makes demands:
But nobody pick on Cathy [sic] Wood:
Well, unless it's Roy:
Roy complains that an actual success had "privilege", but seems to have no facts to support that:
Then he gripes that at least Will Smith got to apologize after he messed up in public. (When did you ever apologize, Roy?)
Roy claps at Elon Musk for calling himself a genius (O the irony) and makes demands:
But nobody pick on Cathy [sic] Wood:
Well, unless it's Roy:
Roy complains that an actual success had "privilege", but seems to have no facts to support that:
Then he gripes that at least Will Smith got to apologize after he messed up in public. (When did you ever apologize, Roy?)
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Uh oh, the mad lad is starting a fund in 2023. From axgrowth.com:
Now, it's Roy, so the odds he'll actually implement this threat are not that high...but if he does, this should get really interesting.
Now, it's Roy, so the odds he'll actually implement this threat are not that high...but if he does, this should get really interesting.
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Well this is illegal as all get out. Roy should feel lucky this is so poorly done, I don't even feel the need to ponder my love of laughing at this man vs a duty to report.
I'm glad he has his disclaimer, that investments may lose value, let's not forget Roy nuked his tips rank when he got reemed out on some big L swings.
It's interesting he picks his tenses and swaps them. This scam isn't up and running yet and I have no idea what he's trying to sell even. I'm not sure what services are being offered, being Roy legally can not touch anything Security related, at best he's going to be able to tell you what to do and expects you to pay him for that? Part of the reason we use brokers isn't just their understanding of the market but they also do the nitty gritty buy and sell. Now in our current era it's 3 clicks to buy a stock print it's info etc. But unlike Roy most of us have jobs, and peace of mind has value. We the agents between client and investments are there for that. If you want to know if Apple is a good buy, you pay me for this talk, now it's either based on a consulting fee, or charged as part of your management costs. End of the day, they still have to follow your requests, and do the leg work. Basically what I'm saying is if you want to know what is good for 300 dollars to work with, it's part of the job to explain it. Also , if you want to buy bit coin, apple stock, magic beans your broker is to do that for you.
Roy can't touch your stuff so you get to call him, listen to him repeat what he heard on Jim Cramer last week and then he expects a cut after that talk you then have to log into your own trading account like Ameritrade Toro etc and then do what he says. I'd personally just skip the middle man then right ? Why would you pay same for someone who isn't going to be making the moves for you? This is investing Roy, not a fucking Korean Hot Pot where you cook your own damned dinner.
In regards to the tense shifting, he talks about this portfolio as if it's real and been around. We have no evidence, Roy has any stocks. He's poor because he doesn't work. If Roy had investments we'd hear about them he loves to brag. That's also why he shows his tips rank around, you know the FAKE portfolio. If he's killing it so hard, why isn't he scrapping a few bucks up buying 1 real stock, then making enough to flip to two.. doubling that and so on. With how long Roys played pretend investor you'd think a paltry few bucks would be mega millions by now? But he hasn't even done that.
What's funny is the 3rd person writing you know he wrote this himself, and tries to sound professional but comes off worse than before. It looks unhinged, I love his 25 years of experience, and BLANK resume. He's claiming an SIE and from FINRAs site it self : The SIE Exam is a FINRA-administered exam that's required for any person who's interested in starting a career in the securities industry. Passing the SIE alone doesn't qualify a person for registration with a FINRA member firm or qualify them to engage in securities business.
So even if some how he's managed to get an SIE, and frankly stuff like spelling his name is probably a struggle for our buddy he's not able to touch anything, unless FINRA itself is just lying on it's website for a good prank.
I know Roy reads here so I think I'll be lucky being kinda lazy and hands off with cows but I really would love to send a ignorant but excited email to him and watch how fast he hangs himself with out right lies, confusing statements or pivots away from things like who's touching securities.
Roy is lazy and this won't happen I'm sure, but yeah he's doubling down on his stupid idea and it's becoming closer to a serious criminal behavior. Roy is not above theft (as he likes to do things like not pay his debts and not work so he doesn't have to pay his student loans) so I'm mostly wondering is Roy just day dreaming or is he really hoping to reel in a few suckers and drain their bank accounts via malice and or poor choices?
I'm glad he has his disclaimer, that investments may lose value, let's not forget Roy nuked his tips rank when he got reemed out on some big L swings.
It's interesting he picks his tenses and swaps them. This scam isn't up and running yet and I have no idea what he's trying to sell even. I'm not sure what services are being offered, being Roy legally can not touch anything Security related, at best he's going to be able to tell you what to do and expects you to pay him for that? Part of the reason we use brokers isn't just their understanding of the market but they also do the nitty gritty buy and sell. Now in our current era it's 3 clicks to buy a stock print it's info etc. But unlike Roy most of us have jobs, and peace of mind has value. We the agents between client and investments are there for that. If you want to know if Apple is a good buy, you pay me for this talk, now it's either based on a consulting fee, or charged as part of your management costs. End of the day, they still have to follow your requests, and do the leg work. Basically what I'm saying is if you want to know what is good for 300 dollars to work with, it's part of the job to explain it. Also , if you want to buy bit coin, apple stock, magic beans your broker is to do that for you.
Roy can't touch your stuff so you get to call him, listen to him repeat what he heard on Jim Cramer last week and then he expects a cut after that talk you then have to log into your own trading account like Ameritrade Toro etc and then do what he says. I'd personally just skip the middle man then right ? Why would you pay same for someone who isn't going to be making the moves for you? This is investing Roy, not a fucking Korean Hot Pot where you cook your own damned dinner.
In regards to the tense shifting, he talks about this portfolio as if it's real and been around. We have no evidence, Roy has any stocks. He's poor because he doesn't work. If Roy had investments we'd hear about them he loves to brag. That's also why he shows his tips rank around, you know the FAKE portfolio. If he's killing it so hard, why isn't he scrapping a few bucks up buying 1 real stock, then making enough to flip to two.. doubling that and so on. With how long Roys played pretend investor you'd think a paltry few bucks would be mega millions by now? But he hasn't even done that.
What's funny is the 3rd person writing you know he wrote this himself, and tries to sound professional but comes off worse than before. It looks unhinged, I love his 25 years of experience, and BLANK resume. He's claiming an SIE and from FINRAs site it self : The SIE Exam is a FINRA-administered exam that's required for any person who's interested in starting a career in the securities industry. Passing the SIE alone doesn't qualify a person for registration with a FINRA member firm or qualify them to engage in securities business.
So even if some how he's managed to get an SIE, and frankly stuff like spelling his name is probably a struggle for our buddy he's not able to touch anything, unless FINRA itself is just lying on it's website for a good prank.
I know Roy reads here so I think I'll be lucky being kinda lazy and hands off with cows but I really would love to send a ignorant but excited email to him and watch how fast he hangs himself with out right lies, confusing statements or pivots away from things like who's touching securities.
Roy is lazy and this won't happen I'm sure, but yeah he's doubling down on his stupid idea and it's becoming closer to a serious criminal behavior. Roy is not above theft (as he likes to do things like not pay his debts and not work so he doesn't have to pay his student loans) so I'm mostly wondering is Roy just day dreaming or is he really hoping to reel in a few suckers and drain their bank accounts via malice and or poor choices?
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When one is trying to figure out what Roy is thinking, it's best not to overcomplicate matters. Don't assume rational or informed ideas. Think like a toddler.
In this case, don't think about what he could do within the law. Think childish wish fulfillment. Think:
"I wanna have a fund! Gimme your money, at least a, a, a thousand dollars! I'll charge...one...percent? And it will be my fund! No promises of profit, no refunds! But I'll make a profit. But no promises!"
Will this be legal? Almost certainly not. But at the rate he's been complaining that others are allowed to innovate and create because they have "privilege" and he does not, I think he's building up an excuse to start a fund. He's only seeking opportunity, after all. How can that be illegal?
Of course, this puts his avarice and envy in conflict with his laziness and lack of focus, but I have high hopes that he'll try to take people's money sometime in the next three years. And the minute he really tries, that's not going to go well for him.
In this case, don't think about what he could do within the law. Think childish wish fulfillment. Think:
"I wanna have a fund! Gimme your money, at least a, a, a thousand dollars! I'll charge...one...percent? And it will be my fund! No promises of profit, no refunds! But I'll make a profit. But no promises!"
Will this be legal? Almost certainly not. But at the rate he's been complaining that others are allowed to innovate and create because they have "privilege" and he does not, I think he's building up an excuse to start a fund. He's only seeking opportunity, after all. How can that be illegal?
Of course, this puts his avarice and envy in conflict with his laziness and lack of focus, but I have high hopes that he'll try to take people's money sometime in the next three years. And the minute he really tries, that's not going to go well for him.