Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

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"The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness."

this is the single most scummy, cowardly thing I have ever read a celebrity do in recent history. talk all kinds of shit, condemn openly and publicly for years, and then doubled down, just to cowardly send a single, puny letter of "i'm sorry" as if it changed anything. I'd be absolutely raging, but all I feel from Rowling's words here is that she is deeply hurt. probably more than anything these grown up children have ever done prior, absolutely wounded. Watson is a transtrender opportunist and a coward on the side, proving that to someone who had seen her and mentored her from child to adult, that she was not above being a hypocrite and sneak to her.
Imo it's down there with what the midget Daniel Radcliffe did,
However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.
This is the kind of thing she means. Daniel Radcliffe thought it would be smart to put out a press release, attacking JK Rowling by name and taking it on himself to apologize to Harry Potter fans for JK Rowling's remarks .
Daniel Radcliffe Responds to J.K. Rowling’s Tweets on Gender Identity
Jun. 8, 2020
BY: Trevor News

To all the people who now feel that their experience of the books has been tarnished or diminished, I am deeply sorry for the pain these comments have caused you. I really hope that you don’t entirely lose what was valuable in these stories to you. If these books taught you that love is the strongest force in the universe, capable of overcoming anything; if they taught you that strength is found in diversity, and that dogmatic ideas of pureness lead to the oppression of vulnerable groups; if you believe that a particular character is trans, nonbinary, or gender fluid, or that they are gay or bisexual; if you found anything in these stories that resonated with you and helped you at any time in your life — then that is between you and the book that you read, and it is sacred. And in my opinion nobody can touch that. It means to you what it means to you and I hope that these comments will not taint that too much.
The balls on this midget. This is an unprecedented level of disrespect by a sort-of working actor for the creator of one of entertainment's most valuable IPs. George Lucas would have you killed and eaten by womp rats for such impertinence. You can disagree with a creative and still be friends, but this little asshole tried to weaponize Harry Potter fandom against JK Rowling herself, she will never forgive him :shit-eating:
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Say what you will, Harry Potter was at the very least well written.
I remember when one of the books got leaked. (I think it was the last one but don't quote me on it.) everyone was saying it *couldnt* be the real one because it was so badly written/full of plotholes/etc and it ended up being the real book.
 
People keep saying the actress that played lovegood sided with rowling originally but this is NOT SO. She put out a tepid 'haha i wish she wouldnt talk about this, love her AND trannies tho!' statement and didn't stick up for her more until later on.

The main three of the cast were hypocritical cunts, and as far as I know no one had the balls to say 'she's right.' Even the people calling those attacking her scumbags didn't actually side with her. Not that they should have, nor am I implying they didn't do enough, but lets not rewrite history.

I can see why she hates emma watson and the rest of them but whew this is a thing of beauty. I love when hypocrites get what they deserve.

One of the things that struck me eight years ago when I refused to go nod my head and clap for “trans women r real women” nonsense was how cowardly people were. How many times I’d disagree with the BS, get no support, but then afterwards little personal texts or emails letting me know they really agree with what I said but couldn’t risk publicly saying so.
The only person I respect at my office told someone to their face that he'd rather jump out of the nearest window headfirst then discuss politics, religion or the news at work.

No it wasn't. Those books made millions of children read, and read a lot. It's a pretty big miracle seeing your nine year old drop all screens and games and read a 500 page book and then anothet. If you know of any other books who can do it, please tell us.
You are both right.

The world building was shallow.
The books were good and children loved them.

These things are both fine, and shallow worldbuilding does not mean the books were BAD. Believe it or not children don't care that much about world building. 'DUDE A MAGIC SCHOOL' is about as in depth as a child needs to be enthralled, they're not going to ask how the magic plumbing system works or where the elf slaves are getting all the food from and any logistics that may imply.
 
Going to go on a bit of a :politisperg: essay here but I've been mulling it over in my brain so I appreciate you all bearing with me.

So I might differ a little from many in this thread in my angle on all this. JK Rowling is, at the end of the day, just an author. She is successful, and influential as far as it goes to be sure, but the current backlash against the trans movement, especially in the UK, is not because of her. It was a long time coming, emerging out of concerted political activism on the part of many players, and has been aided along by a shifting consensus in medicine pushing against the WPATH imposed orthodoxy. I'm more interested in the situation itself, because the degree to which Rowling became the central figure of hate for the trans movement I think is very telling.

Rowling's arguments, behind the understandably ever increasing snark she puts out in response to the constant onslaught of queer leftist vitriol, is actually not extreme, and this is true of the "TERF" movement itself in the UK. Despite the A&H interlopers frothing at the mouth to enact their perfect vision of society and hating on her for only hating trannies, Rowling and the TERFS aren't even advocating for anything other than taking sex seriously as a factor in social relations. For treating observable reality as real. They aren't arguing for criminalizing transitioning, for denying trans people employment in general, for general social exclusion. All they are asking for is limits to how transitioning is allowed to happen (for reasons of potential issues of informed consent and regret) and for single sex spaces to keep maintaining the purpose they are actually supposed to serve. For this they are labelled Nazis. They are dragged out, blacklisted and cancelled, receive death threats, and sometimes face legal consequences.

For me the most obvious parallel to what Rowling and many others experienced is probably the red scare. There's a air of "First as a tragedy, then as a farce" to the fact that an ascendant left's push into McCarthyism was about whether or not having your dick chopped off makes you a woman. And it was something I saw metastasizing in the left for many years before the current moment, something that was present in spots even before the real massive rise of callouts and cancel culture as an actual social force in the mid 2010s. It was this belief that anyone not exactly in lockstep with you was an enemy, and secretly working with all your other enemies. It was very reminiscent of what Richard Hofstader called the Paranoid Style of American Politics, though there he was talking about right leanings movements and organizations more than anything (anti-Catholicism, McCarthyism, etc.). Watching this unfold over years, it occurred to me that it was very much a epistemic framework present across the political spectrum in the US, and we watched the left fall directly into the same trap with the trans issues. And I really do think the specific organized 2-minutes hate style vilification of Rowling doesn't happen without the American Trans movement, that whole ecosystem, boosting it and revving it up. Part of the reason the politics of the UK are the way they are is the internet linking these movements together and collectivizing their hatred across borders.

Rowling was lucky that the enduring love and nostalgia people had for her works was strong enough to override the risk aversion of the companies she worked with. Despite all the hate thrown against her, Harry Potter never stopped being bankable as an IP. My personal cynical take is that probably had a lot more to do with the Myers-Briggs-style Houses and the degree to which people latched onto that construct than to anything transcendent in the novels themselves, but it remains that the real gatekeepers here are and always were the corporate elements in this, the capital holders who can decide arbitrarily to kill something (despite popular support) for ideological reasons. They stood by her, and she survived, whereas for many other people they did not. In my brain I connect it to the troubles KF has had, payment processors and Cloudflare becoming private censors because the right person has the right connections. The left seems to be learning now, too late, that demanding companies blacklist someone doesn't require being on their "right side of history", and that many companies having the right to kill something for what is ultimately political speech isn't a good thing in a society that claims to have free speech. You'd think the entire history of the 20th century would have taught them that, but whatever, the zealots in these movements rarely ever look into history beyond superficial revisionism.
 
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I fully stand with JKR against trannies and against the hypocritical cast members who jumped in the dog pile to ruin her life and exclude her from her own work.

But JKR’s statement is “I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous” is disingenuous. Briefly being hard up as a single mum isn’t the same thing as actual poverty. She’s university educated, and grew up middle class in a nice country home. She chose not to access her support network due to not wanting to be a burden. She never lacked hope, education, social connections, job prospects, etc.

She’s in the group of middle class English celebs who love to downplay their class privilege and completely milk any hardship they’ve ever experienced.
 
I fully stand with JKR against trannies and against the hypocritical cast members who jumped in the dog pile to ruin her life and exclude her from her own work.

But JKR’s statement is “I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous” is disingenuous. Briefly being hard up as a single mum isn’t the same thing as actual poverty. She’s university educated, and grew up middle class in a nice country home. She chose not to access her support network due to not wanting to be a burden. She never lacked hope, education, social connections, job prospects, etc.

She’s in the group of middle class English celebs who love to downplay their class privilege and completely milk any hardship they’ve ever experienced.

She has still faced more relative hardship than Watson has.
 
I support J.K.Rowling and think she's right for standing up for her rights; but I'm just going to say it. Harry Potter is lame. There. I said it.

Harry Potter? More lIke Harry P- Uh..Buh-Bulllllshiit... Hah. Gottem! fuckin' nerds.
 
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She has still faced more relative hardship than Watson has.
Yeah, people forget that Watson was a doctor in The Second Anglo-Afghan War who suffered a shot to the shoulder by an Afghan sniper at the Battle of Maiwand, earning him an honorable discharge that would by fate put him in contact with Sherlocke Holmes.
I think it's a bit foolhardy to say that Watson hasn't had his share of hardships. :smug:
 
Yeah, people forget that Watson was a doctor in The Second Anglo-Afghan War who suffered a shot to the shoulder by an Afghan sniper at the Battle of Maiwand, earning him an honorable discharge that would by fate put him in contact with Sherlocke Holmes.
I think it's a bit foolhardy to say that Watson hasn't had his share of hardships. :smug:

Yeah, but it’s his own fault for willingly hanging out with Gary King, then following a bunch of foolhardy hairy midgets to go burgle a dragon’s lair.
 
She chose not to access her support network due to not wanting to be a burden.
I'm not disagreeing with your point that middle class people have a different definition of "poverty," and that she was probably never in poverty by the standards of the lower class, but I'm not sure how you can assume this in particular. Did she say as much?
 
The "Jo is a holocaust denier" thing came from her expressing incredulity at someone claiming that the Nazis burnt books on "trans healthcare."

I can't upload a screencap right now because Null is doing things to the site, but here's a link to the tweets.

This lead to a bunch of "BUT MAGNUS HIRSCHFELD!" tweets and blog posts from troons.

The nazis did burn books about early trans ideology, a lot of that shit went on during Weimar.

Jo not knowing this doesn't make her a Holocaust denier.

This is a preposterous assertion, but her views and actual opinions have been distorted to extremes very few people nowadays have had endured at a similar scale.

One would think, and indeed some of her newfound supporters appear to believe as well, that she is a gun-toting, cigar-chomping, reborn Unity Mitford. She does, as a matter of fact, admire Jessica Mitford, by the way.

She is still a dyed in the wool new labour second wave feminist, of the sort that is common amongst her demographic (i.e. a white, middle class fucking boomer woman). She does, indeed, support all the other 99% evil stuff, but, for the 1% she is right about she does deserve credit.

In fact, when most of the left held her general worldview things were not necessarily good, but were better. And I'll leave it at that.
 
I honestly just hate Harry Potter fans, the original books aren't bad and while the writing isn't great in certain areas I enjoyed them as a kid. The first 3-4 movies were decent adaptions of children's books but then they basically turned the next 4 movies into generic young adult dystopian novel movie adaption slop. The fanbase really went from people who enjoyed JK Rowling's books to people who didn't have any attachment to the books were just fans of the movies and actors and all the media pertaining to the movies. JK has had some terrible take and opinions like being pro migrant while not wanting to house them in one of her many mansions, flip flopping back and forth on race swapping established characters for virtues points and turning them gay, but she has remained steadfast on hating troons and I respect that.

The Harry Potter fanbase are the equivalent to Disney adults. Basically no children are fans of Harry Potter, the movies/books don't have a cultural impact like they did 10-15 years ago and I think its partially due to the fanbase. Fanfictions, gatekeeping and trannies have contributed to the IP having no staying power for children and teens today in 2020's cultural environment.
 
People keep saying the actress that played lovegood sided with rowling originally but this is NOT SO. She put out a tepid 'haha i wish she wouldnt talk about this, love her AND trannies tho!' statement and didn't stick up for her more until later on.

The main three of the cast were hypocritical cunts, and as far as I know no one had the balls to say 'she's right.' Even the people calling those attacking her scumbags didn't actually side with her. Not that they should have, nor am I implying they didn't do enough, but lets not rewrite history.

You are not wrong, but I think some context is missing. As Rowling herself said in the opening of her reply, the backstabbing was worse than just disagreeing.

Unlike Emma’s grift, I believe Evanna is a true believer, likely due to her background with body issues. She sympathizes even if she is wrong to sympathize with evil people. And she had real body issues unlike the fetishists leaching from her sympathy.

I personally go easy on her because, while we can speak freely in this forum, critiquing any LGBT group, especially trans people, was—and still is to an extent—career suicide for actors. Harder to speak up when your chances for future projects and money is on the line.

The fact that she still dared to sympathize with Rowling, and ask people to do the same. though lukewarm by the standards of ordinary people, is notable. By the standards of actors and celebrities who get canceled for milquetoast conservative opinions, her attempt to encourage sympathy for Rowling shows she wasn’t a backstabber, unlike Emma. More notable considering she might genuinely disagree with her instead of just “disagreeing” for convenience.

In fact, given that JK helped her during a low point in her life, I believe Evanna’s lukewarm support was sincere because she is genuinely grateful.And, at the time, she had nothing to gain by not just outright disavowing her and getting All the Reddit gold and good press that comes with it.

True, she didn’t fully side with JK Rowling, but she didn’t backstab her either, which is still miles better than the others. Like others have said, even a “I disagree with Jo, but I still like her, and I wish the best for her” was better than throwing her under the bus for pure convenience.
 
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