Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

[TheWatchfulFurfag]

Unfortunately this probably means no fun deposition transcripts or videos. Probably because Waid realizes, correctly, that these would be humiliating and would reveal him to be the complete asshole he is. Also since he's unlikely to be able not to spill his spaghetti completely, it could have a hilarious chimpout in it.

Blame competent lawyers being involved.

No sign of that loser Mark Zaid although his name is still on it.

That's a shame, But hey, Waid will probably spill at a later date.

 

[Kosher Dill]

NEW DOC DROP:

Agreed MOTION for Protective Order by Mark Waid. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Protective Order)(Pierce, Ryan) (Entered: 01/25/2019)

In case anyone's wondering, this seems to be an entirely boilerplate document with nothing specific to the Waid case - you can find several other copies of it used in other cases if you search for the opening sentence online.

 

[Water-T]

That's a shame, But hey, Waid will probably spill at a later date.

Oh, you know it. When Waid gets his ass handed to him in court, he is going to sperg out in a 'tard rage meltdown over Twitter, screaming about Trump, Nazis, Meyer, rape culture, blah blah blah.

I can't wait.

 

[RockVolnutt]

Is Zaid still around? He fell off the radar.

 

[AnOminous]

Is Zaid still around? He fell off the radar.

He's still on the papers. Maybe someone told him to STFU.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Unfortunately this probably means no fun deposition transcripts or videos. Probably because Waid realizes, correctly, that these would be humiliating and would reveal him to be the complete asshole he is. Also since he's unlikely to be able not to spill his spaghetti completely, it could have a hilarious chimpout in it.

Blame competent lawyers being involved.

No sign of that loser Mark Zaid although his name is still on it.

Could this stuff come out after the trial?

 

[RodgerDodger]

Could this stuff come out after the trial?

I doubt there will be a trial. It’s pretty clear Waid’s motions regarding Jurisdiction flamed out. He will be encouraged to quietly settle by his competent local lawyers. I rather suspect if both sides are agreeing to keep the depositions sealed that this is inching towards a quiet settlement that nobody is allowed to discuss.

 

[JohnDoe]

I doubt there will be a trial. It’s pretty clear Waid’s motions regarding Jurisdiction flamed out. He will be encouraged to quietly settle by his competent local lawyers. I rather suspect if both sides are agreeing to keep the depositions sealed that this is inching towards a quiet settlement that nobody is allowed to discuss.

I hope not. I want Waid pulled out into the public court and crucified by the law to send a message to all the other grandstanding SJWs that feel like they can ruin lives with impunity.

 

[damian]

Here’s to hoping he will break silence after getting assmad about (whatever) and reveal some juicy stuff.

@AnOminous & @RodgerDodger are there any concequesnces for breaking silence on what’s found or does this just affect paperwork getting released?

 

[AnOminous]

Here’s to hoping he will break silence after getting assmad about (whatever) and reveal some juicy stuff.

@AnOminous & @RodgerDodger are there any concequesnces for breaking silence on what’s found or does this just affect paperwork getting released?

If the judge accepts it, it's a court order. So whatever the penalty for violating a court order could be.

 

[Judge Dredd]

If the judge accepts it, it's a court order. So whatever the penalty for violating a court order could be.

That got me thinking. SJWs have connections everywhere. Games companies, TV companies, politics, what are the chances of using said connections to make charges disappear?

 

[DragoonSierra]

I doubt there will be a trial. It’s pretty clear Waid’s motions regarding Jurisdiction flamed out. He will be encouraged to quietly settle by his competent local lawyers. I rather suspect if both sides are agreeing to keep the depositions sealed that this is inching towards a quiet settlement that nobody is allowed to discuss.

If thats the case the Meyer is getting everything he wants. Including an apology.

That got me thinking. SJWs have connections everywhere. Games companies, TV companies, politics, what are the chances of using said connections to make charges disappear?

From what I understand none of those connections go into actual government beyond politicians.

Also most people in government have a low tolerance for internet bullshit.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I hope not. I want Waid pulled out into the public court and crucified by the law to send a message to all the other grandstanding SJWs that feel like they can ruin lives with impunity.

Question for our local lawyers: could Meyer even do something like that? If Waid agrees to settle and pay whatever figure Meyer comes up with for the damages he suffered, could Meyer still demand a trial in open court? Or would the judge effectively say "You're being made whole, which is the entire purpose of this trial, and any attempt to drag this out and grandstand is just being frivolous"?

 

[AnOminous]

Question for our local lawyers: could Meyer even do something like that? If Waid agrees to settle and pay whatever figure Meyer comes up with for the damages he suffered, could Meyer still demand a trial in open court? Or would the judge effectively say "You're being made whole, which is the entire purpose of this trial, and any attempt to drag this out and grandstand is just being frivolous"?

No. The judge can't do that.

However, if you refuse a reasonable settlement offer and then go to court and get no more than you could have settled for, it's entirely possible you get charged the attorney's fees for the other side as a sanction for wasting everyone's time.

This generally applies only to pure money damages, though. It can't be imposed because you couldn't agree about injunctive relief or some other non-monetary part of the suit. In that case, it might be wise to settle the monetary part of it and go ahead with the rest (although it might be difficult to get anyone to agree to a settlement that does not definitely end the case).

 

[RodgerDodger]

That got me thinking. SJWs have connections everywhere. Games companies, TV companies, politics, what are the chances of using said connections to make charges disappear?

Zero. Absolutely Zero. These fools have Internet Social Media Connections. These have no bearing within the domain of the Court. You can't just make things disappear from Federal Court.

If thats the case the Meyer is getting everything he wants. Including an apology.


From what I understand none of those connections go into actual government beyond politicians.

Also most people in government have a low tolerance for internet bullshit.

If Meyer is being offered what he wants monetarily, his lawyers will correctly advise him that throwing it all away by having a Public Apology be the sticking point is moronic. You don't feed your family or pay your lawyer via pride or feelings. Let it go and take the money. At best he might get a private verbal apology. Most likely along the lines of "I never intended anything to come to this" non apology apology. If Meyer wants to be nasty he could probably get them to agree to a non disparagement clause. No shit talking from any parties. Yeah it would annoy us. But it would leave Waid a ticking time bomb of unvented rage.

 

[Stoneheart]

If Meyer is being offered what he wants monetarily, his lawyers will correctly advise him that throwing it all away by having a Public Apology be the sticking point is moronic. You don't feed your family or pay your lawyer via pride or feelings. Let it go and take the money. At best he might get a private verbal apology. Most likely along the lines of "I never intended anything to come to this" non apology apology. If Meyer wants to be nasty he could probably get them to agree to a non disparagement clause. No shit talking from any parties. Yeah it would annoy us. But it would leave Waid a ticking time bomb of unvented rage.

He makes more money by crucifying Waid. he made half a million with 2 books, if he cucks he will lose alot of bussines for his next book.

 

[DragoonSierra]

You don't feed your family or pay your lawyer via pride or feelings. Let it go and take the money.

But thats what the GoFundMe is for right? Theyve both got money to drag this out.

 

[RodgerDodger]

He makes more money by crucifying Waid. he made half a million with 2 books, if he cucks he will lose alot of bussines for his next book.

Yeah, that is generally a weak or stupid theory to gamble on. His fight with Waid gave him some publicity, which increased his funding. But that was clearly a single event. Not a business model. What his lawyers will politely and clearly explain is the purpose of a lawsuit is to make one whole from damages suffered. That is the goal. Pride or Petty Vengeance is a bad metric to use for your legal decision making. And as a general strategy you don’t want to roll the dice at a trial court over nothing but ego when the defendant is offering to make you whole. Meyer and his Lawyer have likely decided on what the minimal reasonable threshold they would accept for being made whole in this matter. They will base their settlement discussions and decisions on that and likely that alone. Do note that Meyer and his Attorney have refrained from playing any of this out in public. Other than acknowledging the lawsuit, when Waid announced it, Meyer has said almost nothing about it or Waid. Everything we know about it comes from Waid or public court documents, which we only know to look for because of Waid. Meyer isn’t using this for marketing or media bennies. There is no reason to think that doing so would be his end goal.

But thats what the GoFundMe is for right? Theyve both got money to drag this out.

See above, the GoFundMe insures that Meyer cannot be ground down financially via procedural delays and tactics designed to bankrupt the opposing litigant. But it does not mean Meyer should be spending that funding stupidly or pridefully.

 

[AnOminous]

He makes more money by crucifying Waid. he made half a million with 2 books, if he cucks he will lose alot of bussines for his next book.

Not being a complete asshole and wasting taxpayer money and court time isn't being a cuck by any sane metric.

 

[Stoneheart]

Yeah, that is generally a weak or stupid theory to gamble on. His fight with Waid gave him some publicity, which increased his funding. But that was clearly a single event. Not a business model. What his lawyers will politely and clearly explain is the purpose of a lawsuit is to make one whole from damages suffered. That is the goal. Pride or Petty Vengeance is a bad metric to use for your legal decision making. And as a general strategy you don’t want to roll the dice at a trial court over nothing but ego when the defendant is offering to make you whole. Meyer and his Lawyer have likely decided on what the minimal reasonable threshold they would accept for being made whole in this matter. They will base their settlement discussions and decisions on that and likely that alone. Do note that Meyer and his Attorney have refrained from playing any of this out in public. Other than acknowledging the lawsuit, when Waid announced it, Meyer has said almost nothing about it or Waid. Everything we know about it comes from Waid or public court documents, which we only know to look for because of Waid. Meyer isn’t using this for marketing or media bennies. There is no reason to think that doing so would be his end goal.

He cant take a silent deal if he wanna protect his brand. He needs Waid to make a statement publicly that what he did was wrong and he needs a non disparagement clause.