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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
Chive Turkey said:
There's one part of TPM that was unironically great, and it was something that happened for a split second during the final battle. After minutes of overchoreographed, boring ''''action'''' which is enjoyable only if you like looking at the CGI backdrops, the combatants are suddenly seperated from eachother in a hallway by these see-through screens. The combat abruptly stops, and we see the characters wait for the doors to open. The epic score dies down to a slow rythmic drumming, punctuated by the low electronic hum from the screens. We see our characters deal with the situation: Darth Maul paces around like a caged tiger while glaring intently at Qui-gon, who has taken the time to drop to his knees and serenely meditate with his eyes closed. Meanwhile Obi-wan anxiously looks on, eager to jump in and aid his master.

It's the only fucking scene in the whole movie that takes its time to build suspense and atmosphere, and to show the audience something through showing, rather than telling. Moreover, it's the only scene which actually tells us something of the personalities of our two leads and main villain, who have all been utter 2d emotionless cardboard cutouts for the entire movie. Then the doors open we're back to the meaningless action.

That little moment was more engaging than the hour of plot that preceded it, and it honestly wouldn't surpise me if Lucas had nothing to do with it.
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I honestly suspect that this must have been the only part of the film that you watched, because it's simply not accurate at all to say that no prior scenes in the films showed anything about Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon's respective (and very different) personalities. 🤔

GentlemanFaggot said:
The only scene I really liked in the first ST movie was when he awkwardly was trying his best to fight Kylo Ren with a lightsaber. He didn't know what the hell he was doing...
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So much so that he uses the wrong button to activate the lightsaber... 😂

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Truthboi said:
...the Chinese hate blacks.
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I rather suspect that J.J. Abrams does, too. Otherwise, why take someone like John Boyega (who appears, in interviews, to be a rather self-aware, clever and thoughtful young man) and then take every effort to make him look like a live-action version of the "Bix Nood" guy in the first shot of the first trailer for the first Disney SW movie? 🤔
 
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Cyril Sneer said:
I honestly suspect that this must have been the only part of the film that you watched, because it's simply not accurate at all to say that no prior scenes in the films showed anything about Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon's respective (and very different) personalities. 🤔
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Spare us. Both are non-characters with wooden dialogue and zero personality. The only thing that sets them apart is Qui-gon read the script and knows Anakin has to come with them for the plot, while Obi refers to his "good friend" as a pathetic lifeform who can bring nothing but trouble.

This shit is exactly the kind of Blank Canvas autism @Flexo so perfectly described.
 
Replicant Sasquatch said:
Spare us. Both are non-characters with wooden dialogue and zero personality. The only thing that sets them apart is Qui-gon read the script and knows Anakin has to come with them for the plot, while Obi refers to his "good friend" as a pathetic lifeform who can bring nothing but trouble.

This shit is exactly the kind of Blank Canvas autism @Flexo so perfectly described.
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This feels like an example of Scott Adams' "One Screen, Two Movies" idea. Like, I'm sitting here noting how Qui-Gon is propelled from scene to scene with this aura of invincible serenity because he lives in the moment and trusts in the Will of the Force, while Obi-Wan is always wanting to default to the rulebook, lacks faith and is generally uncomfortable with thinking for himself or outside the box, while at the same time showing a dry humor that helps humanize him but also serves to further drive home his character flaws.

And there you are, robotically repeating "LOL Prequels dumb."
 
Cyril Sneer said:
I honestly suspect that this must have been the only part of the film that you watched, because it's simply not accurate at all to say that no prior scenes in the films showed anything about Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon's respective (and very different) personalities. 🤔
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There is barely a discernable difference in their characters beyond their master-apprentice relationship and their opinion on Anakin. Their basic role in the plot and a disagreement does not a personality make, m8.

The problem is that there's very little to work with to begin with, considering they're meant to be stoic monks, and the shitty and inconsistent writing didn't help either.
Cyril Sneer said:
Qui-Gon is propelled from scene to scene with this aura of invincible serenity because he lives in the moment and trusts in the Will of the Force,
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He trusts in it so much that he tries to help it along by mindtricking aliens out of their goods and cheating in a literal roll of the dice.
 
Chive Turkey said:
He trusts in it so much that he tries to help it along by mindtricking aliens out of their goods and cheating in a literal roll of the dice.
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There are hints of a rebellious, free-thinking Jedi in Qui-Gon, but hints are pretty much all they are, along with blatant exposition like "You'd be on the Council!" if he just did things by the book.

During the blissful caesura between TPM and AotC, I dreamed up this amazing movie where Anakin took on Qui-Gon's rebellious streak and broke with the Jedi Council to return to Tattooine to free the slaves in an obvious homage to Spartacus, becoming a hero to the locals but being exiled from the Jedi for his temerity. In Episode III, Obi-Wan convinces him to fight in the Clone Wars, becoming the "damnfool idealistic crusade" Owen bitches about.

Alas.
 
Jeezus put a spoiler on Kino Roberto there, nobody wants to see that shit
 
Absolutego said:
Jeezus put a spoiler on Kino Roberto there, nobody wants to see that shit
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I can't help it, your avatar right now fits so perfect with this post. It must be preserved.

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Chive Turkey said:
There is barely a discernable difference in their characters beyond their master-apprentice relationship and their opinion on Anakin. Their basic role in the plot and a disagreement does not a personality make, m8.
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The fact that their differences of opinion don't play out like the American Chopper meme does not mean that there's no difference in character or personality between them, bud.

Chive Turkey said:
He trusts in it so much that he tries to help it along by mindtricking aliens out of their goods and cheating in a literal roll of the dice.
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As one does.

Mola Ram said:
There are hints of a rebellious, free-thinking Jedi in Qui-Gon, but hints are pretty much all they are, along with blatant exposition like "You'd be on the Council!" if he just did things by the book.
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Right, defying the Jedi High Council to its face was such a subtle, blink-and-you-miss-it hint. 😉
 
Cyril Sneer said:
This feels like an example of Scott Adams' "One Screen, Two Movies" idea. Like, I'm sitting here noting how Qui-Gon is propelled from scene to scene with this aura of invincible serenity because he lives in the moment and trusts in the Will of the Force, while Obi-Wan is always wanting to default to the rulebook, lacks faith and is generally uncomfortable with thinking for himself or outside the box, while at the same time showing a dry humor that helps humanize him but also serves to further drive home his character flaws.

And there you are, robotically repeating "LOL Prequels dumb."
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I have to ask, how old were you when the prequels came out or when you saw them?

The kind of defense you have for them is something I've only ever seen when it comes to nostalgia and people defending said nostalgia.

I just have a feeling.
 
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TaimuRadiu said:
I was like 14 when the prequels came out and I thought they sucked at the time. Just throwing this out there.
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I was a little younger and I remember going to see the first one with my mom. At the time, even though I loved Star Wars, I remember it made no sense to me. But I thought it was me, not the film. "This movie must be too smart for me."

And to this day, my mother doesn't even remember seeing it. That's how big of an impression on her it left. And we went to go see each Special Edition release leading up to Episode 1. 1 was our one and done.

Many years later I tried to watch 2 and 3 on TV and I had to try multiple times just to get through my one and only time. I legit kept falling asleep at 2.
 
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