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[BrunoMattei]

Jay is into weird obscure shit. Its probably one of his own shirts he brought to set that day.

OR

It's the beginning of the OneyPlays/RLM cinematic universe! This is the equivalent to the Alien skull being in the background of Predator 2 or the Ironman post-credit scene.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Is Rich dead?

Only on the inside.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Damn, Mike looks like he could be Jay's dad now.

inb4 "now?"

 

[Guts Gets Some]

I was hoping it would be a 5 film retrospective of all his films, but to think Breen is charging 169 for an insane 5 HOUR long documentary (where one hour is just movie footage too) is insane.
More insane is that he actually made at least one sale, thanks to RLM!

I've seen suffered through all of Breen's films and I can't believe it's an elaborate ruse. He missed the payoff 1, but this is just textbook delusion and lack of awareness to me. Breen has sincerely and drive added on top of it, sure, but it's the same thing we see with every other cow, or even other wannabe directors who write themselves as Mary Sues.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

You do understand that "Wants to do things by the book" and "Is a loose cannon" are only personality traits in the broadest sense right?
Aside from killing Maul, Obi-Wan is a non-entity in TPM and Qui-Gon is hardly any better.
Either cut Qui-Gon and have the Obi-Wan-Anakin relationship take center stage right away or hold Obi-Wan back for AOTC and focus on the Qui-Gon-Anakin relationship in TPM.

The drooling avatar really seems unintentionally appropriate here. It sounds like anything short of David-Lynches'-Dune-style audible internal monologues from the characters counts as "only personality traits in the broadest sense" for you.

The former helps sell the idea of Obi-Wan taking on an apprentice he's not ready for.
The latter does much the same but with the added bonus of Qui-Gon's death contributing to Anakin's attachment, trust, and separation issues.
And don't spew some fan interpretation crap about how "that's what already happens in the films"

Don't tell me what to do.

It seems clear as day to me; I don't know why you can't see it.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

The drooling avatar really seems unintentionally appropriate here. It sounds like anything short of David-Lynches'-Dune-style audible internal monologues from the characters counts as "only personality traits in the broadest sense" for you.

Don't tell me what to do.

It seems clear as day to me; I don't know why you can't see it.

You like to dodge certain questions, I've noticed. Both here and on your profile.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

You like to dodge certain questions, I've noticed. Both here and on your profile.

Really, dude? I spend the better part of my Sunday trying in good faith to respond to your autistic nitpicking in a constructive way, and because I haven't found time yet to address the latest bout of the same I'm "dodg[ing] certain questions"? Give me a fucking break...

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Really, dude? I spend the better part of my Sunday trying in good faith to respond to your autistic nitpicking in a constructive way, and because I haven't found time yet to address the latest bout of the same I'm "dodg[ing] certain questions"? Give me a fucking break...

Dude. I do not have a single horse in this, so trust me when I say: You suck at this. You suck really fucking hard at this. You've shat up the SW thread already with your personal opinions and ideas that you use to fix holes and flaws in a movie in a way that we've mocked in the SW thread for over a thousand pages. You did so in an air of arrogance that sells your own silly ideas and impressions as irrefutable facts and called anyone dumb for not being as deluded as you are when it comes to the prequels.
Also, this is the RLM thread and it has dived into several different topics over the last couple pages, which is only natural given the topics, but it's time to get this thing back on track and relegate the ST/SW sperging back to their respective threads.

 

[Flexo]

Dude. I do not have a single horse in this, so trust me when I say: You suck at this. You suck really fucking hard at this. You've shat up the SW thread already with your personal opinions and ideas that you use to fix holes and flaws in a movie in a way that we've mocked in the SW thread for over a thousand pages. You did so in an air of arrogance that sells your own silly ideas and impressions as irrefutable facts and called anyone dumb for not being as deluded as you are when it comes to the prequels.
Also, this is the RLM thread and it has dived into several different topics over the last couple pages, which is only natural given the topics, but it's time to get this thing back on track and relegate the ST/SW sperging back to their respective threads.

So in conclusion, I believe my thesis on the scourage of Blank Canvas filmmaking has been proven and hope the board will approve my Ph.D.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Dude. I do not have a single horse in this

That's funny. Tell me another one.

You suck at this. You suck really fucking hard at this. You've shat up the SW thread already with your personal opinions and ideas that you use to fix holes and flaws in a movie in a way that we've mocked in the SW thread for over a thousand pages. You did so in an air of arrogance that sells your own silly ideas and impressions as irrefutable facts and called anyone dumb for not being as deluded as you are when it comes to the prequels.

I've offered opinions, suggestions, arguments and theories on the basis of my observations of the films and books. Some people have agreed, some have offered cogent counter-arguments, and some have elected to join the shit-flinging keyboard-monkey brigade and focus on merely calling me a self-evidently wrong dumb poopyhead rather than offering anything of substance in response. I can't really be expected to take the lattermost group seriously, I'm afraid.

Also, this is the RLM thread and it has dived into several different topics over the last couple pages, which is only natural given the topics, but it's time to get this thing back on track and relegate the ST/SW sperging back to their respective threads.

Ah, the infamous Parthian Bitch.

 

[BR55]

The drooling avatar really seems unintentionally appropriate here. It sounds like anything short of David-Lynches'-Dune-style audible internal monologues from the characters counts as "only personality traits in the broadest sense" for you.

Don't tell me what to do.

It seems clear as day to me; I don't know why you can't see it.

Dude did you just imply that the Prequels are too subtle!?
No one in The Phantom Menace is a character.
They are all merely puppets for the script, going and doing wherever and whatever the next scene needs them to be and do.
Asking for them to be more than cardboard cutouts is a far cry from "Dune-style audible internal monologues".
Everyone else has already told you this but it bears repeating.
No one cares how awesome you can make the Prequels, or any flawed film really, in your head with copious amounts of EU material and head cannon.
Films need to stand on their own
Oh and I see we've gotten to the emoji stage of your posts.
All we need now is cringeworthy Mandalorian slang and we'll have Cyril Sneer Bingo.

 

[Preferred Penne]

Take your Star Wars sperg faggotry somewhere else.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Really, dude? I spend the better part of my Sunday trying in good faith to respond to your autistic nitpicking in a constructive way, and because I haven't found time yet to address the latest bout of the same I'm "dodg[ing] certain questions"? Give me a fucking break...

When you opt to defend something against popular opinion, and when all people are simply curious as to why, then you ignore the harder questions that you can't answer, it doesn't do much for your case. Just saying.

 

[Flexo]

I've offered opinions, suggestions, arguments and theories on the basis of my observations of the films and books. Some people have agreed, some have offered cogent counter-arguments, and some have elected to join the shit-flinging keyboard-monkey brigade and focus on merely calling me a self-evidently wrong dumb poopyhead rather than offering anything of substance in response. I can't really be expected to take the lattermost group seriously, I'm afraid.

I'm curious from a philosophical perspective. But how would one go about proving the inverse? Like if I had a large bag of movies and was going to pull one out at random and we discuss it, how would you prove a lack of info?

RLM's character test seems a better method. But there is still the conundrum of proving the negative.

I mean i love Nolan's films and can say that it is largely because there's a lot of scenes about characters in them, you can always find clues in his stuff. (Though i will admit he isn't always the tightest on character arcs and a few tweaks could be made.)

The exception is probably Dunkirk where I think the characters are deliberately left vague for audience insertion or at least to be archetypes of people involved in the war.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Dude did you just imply that the Prequels are too subtle‽

You're giving me the impression that they (or The Phantom Menace, anyway) is too subtle for you, at least. Like I said, I never had any such trouble following the plot of that film, even as a kid.

No one in The Phantom Menace is a character.
They are all merely puppets for the script, going and doing wherever and whatever the next scene needs them to be and do.
Asking for them to be more than cardboard cutouts is a far cry from "Dune-style audible internal monologues".

Everyone keeps saying that, but unless I missed something, no one's referencing any criteria by which it can be established that this is so. It all just seems to be reliant on personal opinion.

No one cares how awesome you can make the Prequels, or any flawed film really, in your head with copious amounts of EU material and head cannon.
Films need to stand on their own

I'm not referencing anything from the EU. I do think the Prequels can stand on their own, if you're actually paying attention, though as I mentioned before I do think that they're still flawed in a variety of ways (for one thing, I would definitely have begun the trilogy with Hayden Christiansen, or whomever, as Anakin; I think Attack of the Clones is narratively the weakest film in the PT due in large part to all the catching-up that Hayden has to do trying to establish a romantic interest in Padme, rather than puppydog infatuation, which contributes to the unfortunate "weird stalker" vibe that he kind of gives off).

Oh and I see we've gotten to the emoji stage of your posts.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em, soldier.

All we need now is cringeworthy Mandalorian slang and we'll have Cyril Sneer Bingo.

Please, if @Flexo is going to call people "meatbags" on a regular basis, I'm gonna call 'em vode and aruetiise (at least in the Star Wars thread).

Take your Star Wars sperg faggotry somewhere else.

I didn't bring it here. I came because it was here already.

When you opt to defend something against popular opinion, and when all people are simply curious as to why, then you ignore the harder questions that you can't answer, it doesn't do much for your case. Just saying.

That's pretty much how you approached me on my profile messages on Sunday morning. I then spent the next ten hours, off and on, answering every question about the PT that you came up with until about 20:30, at which point I got distracted by other things. Now, you would think that anyone giving up a significant proportion of his weekend to answer questions posed by a complete stranger could, upon apparently becoming incommunicado, be given the benefit of the doubt, as in "wow! He spent so much time answering all of these questions, maybe he has other things occupying his mind right now," but no, you don't think that, you don't even bother to ask me, but instead jump straight to this "gotcha" bullshit, which really makes me wonder if you actually approached me in good faith in the first place.

I'm curious from a philosophical perspective. But how would one go about proving the inverse? Like if I had a large bag of movies and was going to pull one out at random and we discuss it, how would you prove a lack of info?

I guess it would depend on which movie you selected. Context matters a great deal, I think.

character test seems a better method. But there is still the conundrum of proving the negative.

I'm not familiar with that.

I mean i love Nolan's films and can say that it is largely because there's a lot of scenes about characters in them, you can always find clues in his stuff. (Though i will admit he isn't always the tightest on character arcs and a few tweaks could be made.)

The exception is probably Dunkirk where I think the characters are deliberately left vague for audience insertion or at least to be archetypes of people involved in the war.

Star Wars is (or was, anyway) so deeply ingrained in the Western pop-culture consciousness that I Lucas could be forgiven for lightly sketching some things in the Prequels, but we can discuss that on a case-by-case basis.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

That's pretty much how you approached me on my profile messages on Sunday morning. I then spent the next ten hours, off and on, answering every question about the PT that you came up with until about 20:30, at which point I got distracted by other things. Now, you would think that anyone giving up a significant proportion of his weekend to answer questions posed by a complete stranger could, upon apparently becoming incommunicado, be given the benefit of the doubt, as in "wow! He spent so much time answering all of these questions, maybe he has other things occupying his mind right now," but no, you don't think that, you don't even bother to ask me, but instead jump straight to this "gotcha" bullshit, which really makes me wonder if you actually approached me in good faith in the first place.

Just because it took you all day to reply back, doesn't mean the same is true for me. I'm very fast; I can reply back to things in-depth faster than anyone else you know. Anyone who's ever chatted with me one-to-one can vouch for that.
It took up 10 minutes of my day, if that. As I wrote on your profile, I was mildly curious about how someone of your mindset could justify the mess of the prequels. The actual SW answers didn't matter. I don't care about Star Wars anymore.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Just because it took you all day to reply back, doesn't mean the same is true for me. I'm very fast; I can reply back to things in-depth faster than anyone else you know. Anyone who's ever chatted with me one-to-one can vouch for that.

I'm afraid that I don't have the luxury of that kind of unlimited online time anymore.

It took up 10 minutes of my day, if that.

There's a famous quote I can't remember about how Biblical apologetics usually involves a thirty-second sperg-out that requires a two-hour lecture to properly answer, or something to that effect.

As I wrote on your profile, I was mildly curious about how someone of your mindset could justify the mess of the prequels. The actual SW answers didn't matter. I don't care about Star Wars anymore.

Uh-huh...

 

[Guts Gets Some]

I'm afraid that I don't have the luxury of that kind of unlimited online time anymore.

There's a famous quote I can't remember about how Biblical apologetics usually involves a thirty-second sperg-out that requires a two-hour lecture to properly answer, or something to that effect.

Uh-huh...

You missed all my points entirely. But it's okay.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

You missed all my points entirely. But it's okay.

No worries. You missed mine.

 

[verissimus]

Is Rich dead?

No one is ever really gone.