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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%
  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%
  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%
  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%
  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%
  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%
  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%
  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%
  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%
  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%

  • Total voters
    1,073
Yes, the 'love story' part just didn't work, even in ROTS. I cringed

Anakin Skywalker: You are so... beautiful.

Padmé: It's only because I'm so in love.

Anakin Skywalker: No, it's because I'm so in love with you

But, overall were ok. Sand thing didn't even bother me much.
Again, the fact that Lucas even ever had a wife to save A New Hope in the edit is a modern miracle because I'm not actually sure he understands how to relate to us hoomons and our hoomon emotions
I suppose money and success can overcome all barriers in a relationship
 
bro we were roasting these movies in 2005 on Geocities and Livejournal blogs.
I can attest to seeing plenty of early Flash animations of Jar Jar Binks getting killed in all sorts of ways. And when Episode 3 came along, I remember that Darth Vader "NOOOOOOOOOOO" line at the end being a big meme.
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They were vastly criticized online, but marketed to all hell and back. Disney Star Wars being shoved down our throats was nothing new, as promotion of the prequels were just as aggressive.
 
Yes, the 'love story' part just didn't work, even in ROTS. I cringed

Anakin Skywalker: You are so... beautiful.

Padmé: It's only because I'm so in love.

Anakin Skywalker: No, it's because I'm so in love with you

But, overall were ok. Sand thing didn't even bother me much.
Exactly, the Prequels aren't really movies to flip out over. They're just boring in parts and the executions leave much to be desired, but they're not bad movies like Robocop 3 or Godzilla 98. They still manage to convey the story it was trying to tell.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YieefGRusWQOh boy a new re;view to completely skip over
Fuck it, what's one more post.
1. I feel like RLM skip over the DEI shit that reaction channels hype up. I don't know if this is because Mike and Jay's political leanings are slowly creeping into the show or they're just brushing it aside because they don't want to talk about it but it's a lie by omission either way. You can't talk about the Acolyte without talking about this stuff because it was made that way in mind first. Lesley wasn't hired because she was a talented director.
2. All this talk about the Jedi being boring while KOTOR exists and is fondly remembered, to the point where there are comments in the video bringing it up that it was 20 years ago is another missed opportunity.
3. They kinda skip over what this means for Star Wars going forward and the re-classification of Lucas's vision. I'm not the most diehard fan and see these tv shows as a waste of time but trying to replace "the Force" with "the Thread" is obvious revisionism.
4. Their first video has a 1/5 dislike ratio because they poorly stumbled their way onto the culture war battlefield and didn't give a coherent opinion on a current hot button issue.

I think they should stick to old movies and not chase current trends. They don't understand enough that a channel like critical drinker can bring up when summarizing the drama and if they're leaving out details deliberately because it goes against their personal politics, it just pisses off the fanbase.
 
Exactly, the Prequels aren't really movies to flip out over. They're just boring in parts and the executions leave much to be desired, but they're not bad movies like Robocop 3 or Godzilla 98. They still manage to convey the story it was trying to tell.
And on top of that there wasn't much Sci-fi/fantasies alternatives in in late 90's to 2005 that mattered much. Star Trek was mostly dead. You had the Matrix for sure, but that wasn't 'light sci-fi'. It was all Star Wars from 99-2005 for the genre, and that's ok.

And now we have shit Star Wars from 2019-curren from ROS to TV now.
 
And on top of that there wasn't much Sci-fi/fantasies alternatives in in late 90's to 2005 that mattered much. Star Trek was mostly dead. You had the Matrix for sure, but that wasn't 'light sci-fi'. It was all Star Wars from 99-2005 for the genre, and that's ok.

And now we have shit Star Wars from 2019-curren from ROS to TV now.
The Matrix is what got me to suspect audience recommendations. The commercials make it look like this fast-paced action movie. So when I fell asleep watching it (I wanted to test out my new DVD player), I thought it wasn't that good. After being forced to watch it in class, I can see why people liked it, but in an arthouse way. The Wachowskis failed to farm that IP out to independent creators like they did with Animatrix and that's why it isn't the juggernaut that it should have been. That's one thing Lucas did pretty well, which is why there's such a thing as an Expanded Universe. It's not his fault Disney trashed the EU and then plagiarize it at will.
 
The Matrix is what got me to suspect audience recommendations. The commercials make it look like this fast-paced action movie. So when I fell asleep watching it (I wanted to test out my new DVD player), I thought it wasn't that good. After being forced to watch it in class, I can see why people liked it, but in an arthouse way. The Wachowskis failed to farm that IP out to independent creators like they did with Animatrix and that's why it isn't the juggernaut that it should have been. That's one thing Lucas did pretty well, which is why there's such a thing as an Expanded Universe. It's not his fault Disney trashed the EU and then plagiarize it at will.
The troons sequels all sucked too. The first Matrix is the only thing they really did well. The sequels, Speed Racer, Jupiter Rising, all of it, sucked mostly. That last Matrix was so damn bad, was a struggle to finish. The prequels weren't amazing much except some of ROTS and at least TPM is memorable. The Matrix sequels were not. I'm not much of an EU/expanded universe fan on any IP, just prefer the main usually. But even there, the Star Wars games were incredible from X-wing on, until they flat out wrecked those too lately.
 
The troons sequels all sucked too. The first Matrix is the only thing they really did well. The sequels, Speed Racer, Jupiter Rising, all of it, sucked mostly. That last Matrix was so damn bad, was a struggle to finish. The prequels weren't amazing much except some of ROTS and at least TPM is memorable. The Matrix sequels were not. I'm not much of an EU/expanded universe fan on any IP, just prefer the main usually. But even there, the Star Wars games were incredible from X-wing on, until they flat out wrecked those too lately.
I thoroughly enjoyed Speed Racer. It was a true love letter to the show.
 
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The Matrix is what got me to suspect audience recommendations. The Wachowskis failed to farm that IP out to independent creators like they did with Animatrix and that's why it isn't the juggernaut that it should have been.
They had no vision for the series beyond the first movie. The plot was basically lifted from Ghost and the Shell including the visuals. And the sets were lifted from Dark City as was a lot of the plot as well. Once the film became a hit they scrambled to write a sequel but the studio wanted it split into two movies and it became a convoluted mess. They had no story ideas and the studio needed two more stories to make a trilogy so you got two back to back jokes of films.

And the Matrix brand was plastered onto everything and was hugely popular for a while. The Matrix game sold 5 million copies during the Xbox/PS2 era. The overall brand did over $3 billion in total sales from movies and merchandise. It's probably over double the lifetime sales of Terminator franchise tickets and merchandise for reference. But obviously lagging behind stuff like Star Wars or Harry Potter.
 
Not everything is generational warfare.
What's next. Gen X are the Pepsi generation?
Nah man, Gen X ruined a ton of shit and every time someone starts talking shit about them they blame boomers.
bro we were roasting these movies in 2005 on Geocities and Livejournal blogs.
There is some weird fixation here that "I didn't like the film" -> "The film was objectively bad". Maybe decades of RottenTomatoes brainrotted people that mid films can't be divisive. And as far as general audience was concerned, the prequels were perfectly serviceable, with only the first one having some pushback due to Jar Jar and that was dialed down in the sequels.
 
There is some weird fixation here that "I didn't like the film" -> "The film was objectively bad". Maybe decades of RottenTomatoes brainrotted people that mid films can't be divisive. And as far as general audience was concerned, the prequels were perfectly serviceable, with only the first one having some pushback due to Jar Jar and that was dialed down in the sequels.
At least have the intellectual honesty to admit you saw these movies when you were six and the flashing lights and Padme's midriff triggered your lizard brain so you have the movie equivalent of Stockholm's Syndrome for them.
They're bad movies. Through and through.
 
Again, the fact that Lucas even ever had a wife to save A New Hope in the edit is a modern miracle because I'm not actually sure he understands how to relate to us hoomons and our hoomon emotions
I suppose money and success can overcome all barriers in a relationship
The "saved in the edit" argument has already been thoroughly debunked:
 
At least have the intellectual honesty to admit you saw these movies when you were six and the flashing lights and Padme's midriff triggered your lizard brain so you have the movie equivalent of Stockholm's Syndrome for them.
They're bad movies. Through and through.
Unironically yes. Ep 1 was first movie i ever saw in cinema and even now i sometimes like "does it really matter if it's bad?". Jar Jar and Nass were too much though.
 
I know it goes hand in hand with the channel, but can this thread not go three pages without fuckers sperging about star wars? I just want to point and laugh at rich evans as reality humiliates him for the seventieth time this month.
 
They had no vision for the series beyond the first movie. The plot was basically lifted from Ghost and the Shell including the visuals. And the sets were lifted from Dark City as was a lot of the plot as well. Once the film became a hit they scrambled to write a sequel but the studio wanted it split into two movies and it became a convoluted mess. They had no story ideas and the studio needed two more stories to make a trilogy so you got two back to back jokes of films.

And the Matrix brand was plastered onto everything and was hugely popular for a while. The Matrix game sold 5 million copies during the Xbox/PS2 era. The overall brand did over $3 billion in total sales from movies and merchandise. It's probably over double the lifetime sales of Terminator franchise tickets and merchandise for reference. But obviously lagging behind stuff like Star Wars or Harry Potter.
Matrix was popular until the third movie when everyone said, "WTF?" It as a franchise died there because the Wachowskis held too tightly on it. I keep praising Animatrix because those animators took the premise and ran with it and had they let other creators take over while they took producing duties, Matrix will still be popular today.

I know it goes hand in hand with the channel, but can this thread not go three pages without fuckers sperging about star wars? I just want to point and laugh at rich evans as reality humiliates him for the seventieth time this month.
RLM wanted to talk about the Acolyte. Don't get mad when people disagree with you.
 
Remember how hype we were about Maul and his dual lightsaber? And he wound up in like 5 minutes of on-screen footage.
I understand to a degree that he was made a real character in the cartoons but dear God is he emblematic of the prequel's problem overall. Spectacle stapled onto the thinnest premise possible.
Part of the problem is Lucas screwed himself by creating a story in backwards fashion, fitting a plot to the facts of the original films. So much of the prequels feels perfunctory. Lots of telling but very little showing/convincing. Amateur storytelling mistakes.

But even Lucas understood the only way to tell that story is in the form of a tragedy. He just did it very poorly. I'm still sort of in awe by how bad the scripts are.
Fuck it, what's one more post.
1. I feel like RLM skip over the DEI shit that reaction channels hype up. I don't know if this is because Mike and Jay's political leanings are slowly creeping into the show or they're just brushing it aside because they don't want to talk about it but it's a lie by omission either way. You can't talk about the Acolyte without talking about this stuff because it was made that way in mind first. Lesley wasn't hired because she was a talented director.
A lot of RLM's commentary is in their editing. It allows them to be cutting in a way that can't be clipped out of context to make them look bad in the Culture Wars. They've always done this. And there's plenty of editing in the Acolyte videos to indicate they think that shit is annoying.
2. All this talk about the Jedi being boring while KOTOR exists and is fondly remembered, to the point where there are comments in the video bringing it up that it was 20 years ago is another missed opportunity.
KOTOR is a game. It's not a movie. Being a Jedi is cool. Watching them at length, in the way they've been handled since the OT, is not.

And Drew Karpyshynis clearly a better writer than latter-day Lucas.
3. They kinda skip over what this means for Star Wars going forward and the re-classification of Lucas's vision. I'm not the most diehard fan and see these tv shows as a waste of time but trying to replace "the Force" with "the Thread" is obvious revisionism.
You could see it that way, and I actually agree with you. But some other group interpreting the Force in some other way is not a bad idea. Marxoids frame things intentionally so you'll look like you're complaining about nothing when you notice what they're doing.
4. Their first video has a 1/5 dislike ratio because they poorly stumbled their way onto the culture war battlefield and didn't give a coherent opinion on a current hot button issue.
Completely agree.
I think they should stick to old movies and not chase current trends. They don't understand enough that a channel like critical drinker can bring up when summarizing the drama and if they're leaving out details deliberately because it goes against their personal politics, it just pisses off the fanbase.
Nah, they're fine. Everyone makes a shitty video every once in a while.
 
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The whole thing with people today saying "Actually, the prequels were good" and blaming RLM and the like for the internet disliking them feels perfectly parallel to how the Gamecube was bemoaned as a mostly useless machine that was only good for Smash Bros. and Metroid Prime at the time, but everyone who had one as a kid grew up, and now it's spoken of very favorably.
 
The whole thing with people today saying "Actually, the prequels were good" and blaming RLM and the like for the internet disliking them feels perfectly parallel to how the Gamecube was bemoaned as a mostly useless machine that was only good for Smash Bros. and Metroid Prime at the time, but everyone who had one as a kid grew up, and now it's spoken of very favorably.
Was the Gamecube really that disliked? I may be biased but I recall it being received pretty favourably (if not able to stand up to the PS2 juggernaut and XBOX's amazing online) and it was a mainstay of "beloved underrated console" discussion for ages alongside the Dreamcast.
 
Again, the fact that Lucas even ever had a wife to save A New Hope in the edit is a modern miracle because I'm not actually sure he understands how to relate to us hoomons and our hoomon emotions
I suppose money and success can overcome all barriers in a relationship
actually he was married BEFORE the success. Ironically it was the success of Star Wars that led to his divorce.

The "saved in the edit" argument has already been thoroughly debunked:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=olqVGz6mOVE
I mean... technically movies are "made" in the edit. That's what the point of editing is. Every good movie is saved in editing. It's like saying "eating food saves people."
 
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