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When the video started and this came on the screen, I legit thought it was just going to be Mr Plinkett and Jay's wedding and then everyone gets brutally murdered as a GoT spoof.
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Milkshake Sniffer
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That's quite an assertion. How did that strategy work out for ;
Ghostbusters 2016,
Charley's Angels (Banks remake),
Solo,
Terminater Dark Fate,
Lightyear,
Eternals (or even the entirety of MCU Phase 4),
just to mention a few that immediately spring to mind?
Sure, the great "success" that was Captain Marvel grossed over a billion. That did have pretty much every stunt conceivable pulled for it including the orchestrated mass acquisition of tickets with kids being taken in organised parties (which might partially explain the photos of large swathes of empty seats). This was often via charitable donations promoted directly by Larson on national TV. I never understood how funding Disney could be a charitable purpose! In addition to the usual media support, the principal review site (RT) actually changed their systems in order to support it with the deletion of the "do you intend to see it" feature. They also lied saying that it was pre-emptive reviewing as opposed to simply a statement of intent and further lied about the connection between the change and the Captain Marvel film (confirming the connection approx two weeks after denying it). And let's not forget that it was positioned between Infinity War and Endgame, which benefited from probably the highest level of built up hype in over a decade, with the strong suggestion that you needed to see it in order to understand the culmination of this decade long cinematic juggernaut.
And outside films, how did it work out for Gillette? If you want to see possibly the purist example of controversy marketing being disastrous take a look at Ratners. It was an extremely successful mass market jewellery retailer in the UK. At a public event back in 1991 the owner, Gerald Ratner, said "We also do cut-glass sherry decanters complete with six glasses on a silver-plated tray that your butler can serve you drinks on, all for £4.95. People say, "How can you sell this for such a low price?", I say, "because it's total crap.". He also said that a set of earrings he sold was "cheaper than a prawn sandwich from Marks & Spencer's, but I have to say the sandwich will probably last longer than the earrings". Ratners all but collapsed and abandoned the "Ratners" brand a couple of years later.
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Bitching and moaning about the films years after the fact didn't cause this though. They failed when they released because they sucked. To continue to bitch about them is just a waste of time and keep them in the public eye.
They should be forgotten. People should move on with their lives. Instead people keep bringing them up, and that's why you continue to get bad Star Wars, Terminator, Star Trek, MCU media even though they "fail". When nobody cares about IP *at all* they may finally move on to something original.
If the pathetic Fandom Menace logic of "if we bitch things will change!" worked, then things would have changed instead of them just continuing with it.
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In case anyone wasn't aware, their name was changed around the time that Mike started doing the Plinkett reviews. The original company name is a reference to a "Red Letter Day" which is synonymous to a very important event.
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No you idiot, I'm using marvel references as a stand-in for woke politics to try and convey how annoying it gets for some people.
You are being literally autistic in that you can't understand how a metaphor/parable works.
Tepes Thot
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I truly love people who claim they’re tired of/above the culture war, still talking about it and stoking its flames. You’re worse than the open participants, because at least they’re honest about slapfighting. People who are actually above it and not contributing, are literally doing just that. Stfu if you’re so bothered, and steer away from it. That includes RLM.
Anyways, it was hilarious to see them play this game. Mike is clueless and Rich was in pure awe/shock. It was better than the chihuahua movie prank they pulled on him. Whoever made the game worked hard, it’s pretty cool.
Anyways, it was hilarious to see them play this game. Mike is clueless and Rich was in pure awe/shock. It was better than the chihuahua movie prank they pulled on him. Whoever made the game worked hard, it’s pretty cool.
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Dammit, was it your sacrifices that brought this abomination onto us???
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Well I mean the original, not whatever crap they're foisting on us now. (Although it might be nice to see John Larroquette again.) We, uh, used to pick it up on the UHF in Pankot Palace, although you had to wrap the antenna with naan bread.
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Why do you feel the need to make a parable involving capeshit instead of just making your fucking point? Don't you see how fucking retarded that is? The reason you need to use a dogshit metaphor is because you have no actual example to use because what you complain about isn't prevalent enough to make an actual example.
I'm sorry, but this bitching and moaning has gotten pathetic and no matter how pissed off it makes you doesn't change the fact that normal people at this point view it as such. Take a shower, hit the weights, find something new to enjoy. You'll live longer.
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I didn’t mind the IP show off thing in Free Guy so much because I rationalized it as the game being like Fortnite and just having a ton of pointless crossovers and such, since the guy running the game was a giant tool and Guy had been going out of his way to collect every item
and weapon he could.
But yeah, it would be incredibly annoying and out of place if everyone was doing it.
DankSmoker
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Maybe he will live to see 100 like a spiteful old lady because being angry keeps him going.
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DankSmoker
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Either way you're cold, brittle, and your genitals are dry.
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My momma fell ill, and I blame it on Trump not being reelected for her to be mad about.
reptile101
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its not though woke shit loses money nonstop from word of mouth and it being awful
the thing is no matter how much money shit loses investment firms like blackrock pay into the company for promoting there ideals
no matter how god awful and shitty a product is as long as its woke it will make money behind doors
Bush King
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I find this very strange.
Blackrock, Disney, Marvel, these are all public companies. These are all owned by investors. Investors don't like seeing wastage or losses. Public companies can't simply find "money behind doors" without it leaving a big paper trail.
Blackrock is an investment company, their entire mandate is speculation on future earnings. Even things like ESG can be seen in that lens- it's a long term strategy to force markets to be what they view as more sustainable. I disagree, but ultimately if you believe that climate change is a big issue you'd want to solve it so that your money is still there 50 years from now.
Blackrock is not just shoveling money into films that fail because they hit diversity targets. To do so, they need to either buy up IPOs or just discharge money into projects that have no return on investment. The former is just normal investing, the latter would be a direct violation of fiduciary responsibility- not only would the executives lose their licensing, be barred from practising in finance ever again, have large fines levied against them, etc, the same would be held against Blackrock itself due to the fact it was corporate policy rather than just a rogue board. In effect, Blackrock would end up disgraced and probably go into administration because their whole remit is investing, and that would be off the table. The investors and creditors would then be compensated with the sale of all assets in the company.
A much saner explanation is simply that these individual film companies, which make hundreds of films each year, can simply use the revenues of blockbusters to fund any losses from wokeshit, if those films even do have losses, because many don't. "Get woke, go broke" is a nice rule of thumb for individual projects, but it's not a law of the universe, many do go on to be successful, and the "broke" part only applies to individual projects. There's no scenario in a million years where Ghostbusters 2016 bankrupted Sony.
It's not unheard of for companies to be doing shady shit and having it not revealed because investors are incredibly happy with the book reports, but the kinds of things here require big evidence. Most investors don't bother reading financial reports, but they are publicly available, by law, and must be issued annually and (usually) quarterly. You could easily see any shady shit from a glance in them. I'd encourage anyone to read them if they're interested because they usually mention potentially damaging issues in their financial reports even when there is monetary value on them, eg: Activision/Blizzard talks about their lolsuits and sexual harassment allegations. ESGs and diversity would probably be at the very start of the reports for Blackrock because that's something their pushing- they'd be proud to state that they're intentionally bankrolling failed investments if it were happening.
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I know the woke gender ideals area on trial here, but what caused me to twitch like Flexo described was just the sheer retardation of those two phrases in the trailer:"Why do you want to be x", "because you all say I can't". What kind of childish and boring reason is that? It puts me right off the character because they establish her as someone who cares more about being defiant than about honor, bravery, or doing the right thing.
All they had to make her say was something else like "It's all I ever wanted" or "It's in my blood" or anything that maybe hints at some character traits beyond being openly contrary. That's what made me pass this movie right over.
This type of writing seems to be prominent in current Hollywood. Shit, they could have made her say "because it's fun" or "because I like it". Even in shitty movies like Brave the main character is portrayed like she just can't help being that way and archery gives her joy while everything else restricts her. She don't get me started on the tell don't show aspect of current year writing.
All they had to make her say was something else like "It's all I ever wanted" or "It's in my blood" or anything that maybe hints at some character traits beyond being openly contrary. That's what made me pass this movie right over.
This type of writing seems to be prominent in current Hollywood. Shit, they could have made her say "because it's fun" or "because I like it". Even in shitty movies like Brave the main character is portrayed like she just can't help being that way and archery gives her joy while everything else restricts her. She don't get me started on the tell don't show aspect of current year writing.