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Yeah, I think that is why Flutter is so careful about being seen with him. She knows that people will know her as being into guys who rape their elderly mother without remorse and that is pretty frowned upon
Good morning all! I’ve come with news. I’m expecting some clowning, as I probably shouldn’t have done this, but I’ve gotten some info from Philip Paymo. Ultimately, I think he’s full of shit, and there’s a few curious things I learned from him, along with some contradictory things to point out. I’ll let the DMs speak for themselves. I mentioned my past with Chris as a way of getting him to let his guard down, but it ultimately isn’t relevant to this. I’ll be including all the DMs in full to prove I’m not hiding anything.
Highlights:
* Denies being behind the Wes Iseli AI drawing and claims the donations made under the CwcvilleGuardian2009 name in 2024 were from a damned dirty imposter.
* Says he has no bad intentions, wants to do his best as a moderator.
* Claims the AI videos were only for fun, despite intentionally being things that would anger Chris.
* Brought up the Auli call on his own without me mentioning it. I pretended to feign ignorance, but this isn’t suspicious at all.
* Feels sorry for Chris due to him being held to a “double standard” in the trans community, claims the worst things about Chris can be disproven with 5 minutes of research.
* Says Chris has a lot of good ideas but struggles to put them into words, and wants to help him do that.
* Thinks Chris plays up the Jesus and CPU Goddess nonsense for the internet.
* Claims to not be charging or being paid for editing and such as of now.
* Confirmation from Phil himself that it is indeed his own voice in the videos. He claims to have a bad mic, but I think it could be a filter to disguise his voice.
* Supposedly had meningitis in March and had to be put into a coma for a few months.
* Another person close to Chris has shared at least one private email with him.
* Gave me permission to share these DMs.
Maybe I’m making myself hear it, but his voice sounds awfully similar to the voice in the Auli call. Is there a way to remove the distortion on the voice? His voice can be heard in the recent QnA video. Someone on Bluesky also pointed out that his voice sounds too masculine to be a trans male, as he claims. I’m sure there’s someone with better detective skills than me, but something is definitely going on. More than anything, I’m curious about the supposed associate he mentioned.
Addendum
Alright, I’ve found a few more interesting things. One, the former CwcvilleGuardian2009 channel is now an AI Christian and the Hedgehog Boys cover channel. But, something very interesting. Sourced from the “morons who talk about chris on youtube” thread, the description of one of the videos used to read this. Excuse the language discrepancy.
It fakes being an auto generated YouTube music channel, and the description reads, “Mixing Engineer, Producer Aulikki Ahonen.” The description now simply reads this.
We know for a fact that Phil ran the CwcvilleGuardian2009 channel, and the fact that he played into the Auli bit, not to mention changing it at some point, is suspicious. I’m 90% sure that he is indeed the one behind the call. Here is the link to the channel.
Also is this unlisted video from Phil’s channel where he talks about working with Chris, also admitting to using voice changing software due to his supposed bad microphone. A lot of the things he says are the same as in the DMs I shared above, but he also gives an email address, philippaymo@gmail.com.
That’s all I have for now. Will update if anything new comes up.
Last Edit
Wasn’t going to share this, but I realized I mentioned it in the DMs. To provide full context, here’s the proof I provided Phil at the end of our DMs. Bluesky doesn’t allow you to send images via DM for some reason, so I posted these images and deleted them after he saw them.
I had the Persona 3 drawing signed by Zeno Robinson and Alejandro Saab, who voiced Junpei Iori and Akihiko Sanada respectively in Persona 3 Reload.
This is the last of my prior attention seeking behavior. I want to finally do something useful for the CWCsphere and give something back. My own redemption arc per se. I’m actively still looking into Philip Paymo and will continue to share anything new I find. Thanks for your time.
* Feels sorry for Chris due to Chris being held to a “double standard” in the trans community, claims the worst things about Chris can be disproven with 5 minutes of research.
Philly posted a thread to Bluesky. Supposedly is receiving death threats, continues to vaguepost, and doesn’t address most things that were brought up.
I'm sure she helped quite a few church ladies through minor bouts of depression or anxiety, but Chris is the "hard mode" psych patient -- even the most highly qualified mental health professionals are going to struggle with him by the time that Rocky got involved, so she didn't have a chance.
I'm not going to be too harshly critical. The kind of person who would seek spiritual or even mental health treatment of a sort would not be terribly likely to seek it from a psychiatrist, either because of their own preferences or because (and this was Bob's major failing) they were afraid he'd be committed to some kind of mental institution by a "real" psych.
While this wasn't an entirely irrational fear it was more or less out of date by that time, though. Bob was probably mainly familiar with snake pit tier mental institutions and didn't realize the Cadillac health plan he had, or Chris had indirectly through him via the SSA was much different, and that he wouldn't have been committed anyway.
He would probably have ended up a lolcow of some sort even with treatment, but probably not the singularity of all lolcows who defined the whole thing.
Local archive of a clip of Chris discussing his role in the EDP documentary.
0:45
"I am not a fan of any predators whatsoever, and I am not one either even though I became misinterperated as one, and I pray that people realize that from what I put onto youtube and whatever I post online, and that they accept that and we'll be good"
I feel like Chris could be under an NDA with Mike Clum because he's going to be the subject of his next documentary. Chris didn't even watch the documentary that he appears in? That suggests to me that it was a minor question during a meetup focused on something else. Mike hasn't announced anything yet that would say otherwise. About a month ago he briefly brought up Chris on the H3 show when talking about the Boogie "cancer survivor" title but Ethan Klein changed the subject.
I wonder if Doctor David’s family are going to prevent Chris from attending the funeral.
It doesn’t sound like he wants to, but Chris is unpredictable.
They must have heard about Barbgate and possibly looked into Chris after.
Either they knew generally about Chris and his antics before, or they would have had a horrible surprise afterwards.
Even if he showed up and behaved himself, the family would have to explain to others present who Chris is.
I wonder if Doctor David’s family are going to prevent Chris from attending the funeral.
It doesn’t sound like he wants to, but Chris is unpredictable.
They must have heard about Barbgate and possibly looked into Chris after.
Either they knew generally about Chris and his antics before, or they would have had a horrible surprise afterwards.
Even if he showed up and behaved himself, the family would have to explain to others present who Chris is.
This is how the original skull cult and root religions started: one creative retard answered the question "what happens after we die?" and a patronizing group of followers swallowed it. Thank you Chris for just having an answer for everything.
Highlights:
I had the Persona 3 drawing signed by Zeno Robinson and Alejandro Saab, who voiced Junpei Iori and Akihiko Sanada respectively in Persona 3 Reload.
on the Twitter post I called him his step brother because I completely forgot the term half brother existed. Sorry
