Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Tanner Glass said:
I would also add on that as the number of pokemon climbed higher and higher, you started to have a lot more "redundant" pokemon.

Like, how many pokemon are just birds? It was fine for Pidgey; but, Starly and Pidove just feel like "Pidgey, but slightly different" from a looks and a gameplay perspective. This also happens with Spearow and Ratata - there are slight variations that take on a similar role in the game play (most of those being ones to just collect/fight in random battles).

The game just isn't deep enough to justify literal copies of pokemon (there is a ~10 stat difference between Pidgey, Starly, and Pidove's final forms and all of them are normal/flying - for example and none of them would be considered competitively powerful) and as more pokemon come out, the more copies or slight variations that exist and the more boring the whole thing becomes.

The starters also suffer from this, with them most commonly being a 3-stage water/fire/grass type with some slight variations (usually dual-typing) as do the legendaries (which are frequently /psychic, /flying, /dragon).

Cool pokemon are cool, but it gets a bit tiring when so many are kind of boring.
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Tanner Glass said:
It is a bit lazy I feel like - but it feels like they've got the game kind of "set in stone" - you encounter similar pokemon in similar locations (for example - low level birds (Pidgey) and rats (ratatta) with a few others mixed in outside of the starter town) but the game doesn't want to expressly reuse those same pokemon so they make newish versions.
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Honestly, the pikachu clones are the worst offenders. Marill was a step in the right direction being water (and now fairy) but my god the amount of electric rodents has me so uninterested in them it's unbelievable. I would've loved a fire pikachu like what happened with Marill, but all they can think of is electric. The fact none of them evolve also makes them useless to me other than throwing them in my living dex.
 
Ido said:
Honestly, the pikachu clones are the worst offenders. Marill was a step in the right direction being water (and now fairy) but my god the amount of electric rodents has me so uninterested in them it's unbelievable. I would've loved a fire pikachu like what happened with Marill, but all they can think of is electric. The fact none of them evolve also makes them useless to me other than throwing them in my living dex.
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That's the other part of it, too - they don't really have great balance for thier game. Most (non-legendary) single stage pokemon are not very good in the long run, a lot of two-stage pokemon aren't good either (excluding Gyrados), a lot of pokemon that evolve early (most bugs) aren't super viable long term as well.

Even if you have a good stat base, there are some types that are just basically better than others (Psychic, Metal, Dragon, Ground come to mind) and your pokemon needs access to good moves that use it's stats (physical moves use pATK, special ones use sATK). Once you approach it like that, there aren't exactly tons of pokemon that are viable.
 
Sun and Moon was a really good step forward for the franchise. My biggest worry for Sword and Shield is that it takes a step back. I liked the move away from the 8 gym progression. I liked that the villain Team was a distraction. I really really fucking enjoyed how in depth they went in making Alola Pokemonified Hawaii (I went to school with a native Hawaiian who filled me in on a lot of the stuff, but also things like Yongoos and Alolan Rattata being reference to rats in Hawaii becoming nocturnal when mongoose were brought in to do pest control). Regional variants were the best idea they had to both revitalize old Pokemon, and slow the national Dex creep that was threatening to bloat the game.

I think had were had regional variants sooner, Pidove could of easily just been Unovan Pidgey (with a Poison/Flying typing for Trash Doves). Where as I think something like Pikipek-Toucannon line is different enough to warrant a new line.
 
I actually stopped playing at Diamond and Pearl. I picked up Alpha Sapphire because Sapphire was my favorite Pokemon game. I stopped playing it because there just came a point that the roster got way too big, the game play plays the same time and time again rarely does the competitive scene changes- I think Gengar is still a very strong choice to this day. The mega evolution was a nice twist on strategy removing an item slot to get a powered up version. In the end though the game devs seem to be running out of ideas of how to make the game feel fresh. Sun and Moon strayed away from the 8 gym system- which was nice, and the new Gigantamax looks like a mega evolution except your Pokemon is literally a balloon. The raids look almost like an interactive mobile game, yet will probably be easier than the Mewtwo battle in Pokemon Stadium.

I honestly loved this game way back when, I maxed out the timer on Pokemon Blue. I want to get into it, but when I played Sun and Moon I just got hit with fatigue of feeling the same old- same old. The story of the series aren't anything I find to be a spectacle either it's basically each game has Team (place name here) and they are wanting to do (some generic thing here) then you beat up their monster slaves with your monster friends and save the day.

I really do like Pokemon, not intending to shit on it with this post. I'm just disappointed in their way of "mixing things up" have been over the last few years. I hope one day Game Freak makes a game that isn't Pokemon, add some variety to their product line then come back to Pokemon with a more relived mind.
 
It’s always hard to make major changes to a mainline series like that, I think. Just because something you change may be something a large pet of you audience finds crucial to the game itself. It seems like Regional Variants worked out for them more than Megas or Triple Battles, ect, so it’s something they’ll stick with from here on out.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
It’s always hard to make major changes to a mainline series like that, I think. Just because something you change may be something a large pet of you audience finds crucial to the game itself. It seems like Regional Variants worked out for them more than Megas or Triple Battles, ect, so it’s something they’ll stick with from here on out.
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I actually forgot to mention the regional Pokemon thing; I did think it was a good twist. I think it's a better idea than just adding and adding. Of course making something new to the main series is difficult I do acknowledge that. except switching up the way the story plays or changing the story to something a bit less copy past would get me more into it again at the least. I personally can handle one form of repetitive, just not a combination.
 
Token Weaboo said:
I hope one day Game Freak makes a game that isn't Pokemon, add some variety to their product line then come back to Pokemon with a more relived mind.
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They've made non-Pokémon games for years now, they're just not big hits at all. The latest one was Little Town Hero, which was... Well, I'll just let the Metacritic explain it for me:
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People on Twitter aren't very kind to it, either:
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And GameXplain gave it its first ever "Hated" review score:
 
Rivalo said:
They've made non-Pokémon games for years now, they're just not big hits at all. The latest one was Little Town Hero, which was... Well, I'll just let the Metacritic explain it for me:
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People on Twitter aren't very kind to it, either:
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And GameXplain gave it its first ever "Hated" review score:
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Jesus crud. I guess my mind has been changed. their staff is pretty one track minded!
 
I wish they had more feminine Pokemon this time (i.e in vein of Jynx, Lillibet, Milotic, etc)

One that looks like Queen Elizabeth 1?
 
jellycar said:
I wish they had more feminine Pokemon this time (i.e in vein of Jynx, Lillibet, Milotic, etc)

One that looks like Queen Elizabeth 1?
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They're going to make another tranny seal and orgy lizard, and you are gonna like it.

On another note, a new commercial for S/S dropped earlier today. I'm hoping the pokemon in the commercial actually are ones that wind up in the game, because that means my bro Drapion gets in.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UMjKiC1l_yA

Edit: According to Serebii, the pokemon in that commercial will in fact be in the Galar Pokedex. These newly revealed pokemon are: Shuckle, Remoraid and Octillary, Seedot/Nuzleaf/Shiftry, Torkoal, Skorupi and Drapion, Munna and Musharna, Scraggy and Scrafty, Pawniard and Bisharp, and Pyukumuku.

Forgive my double-post, but also theres a small gameplay trailer for the gigantamax raids. The music is pretty bopping, not gonna lie.
https://youtu.be/qx7dQaKmBpA
 
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jellycar said:
I wish they had more feminine Pokemon this time (i.e in vein of Jynx, Lillibet, Milotic, etc)

One that looks like Queen Elizabeth 1?
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We got that last Gen with Tsareena. It even has a crown and has an ability called Queenly Majesty (Pretty solid too.)

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Wouldn't mind more of the female exclusive Pokemon though. They're fun. Since I got the Corgi Pokemon I wanted, next I want a Loch Ness monster Pokemon. They can even make it legendary they're feeling cute.
 
El Porko Fako said:
We got that last Gen with Tsareena. It even has a crown and has an ability called Queenly Majesty (Pretty solid too.)

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Wouldn't mind more of the female exclusive Pokemon though. They're fun. Since I got the Corgi Pokemon I wanted, next I want a Loch Ness monster Pokemon. They can even make it legendary they're feeling cute.
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We already have Lapras. Maybe we'll get a regional varient, but I'm not sure if there's anything that can be done to make it more Nessy-esque than it already is
 
Ilikeoreos said:
We already have Lapras. Maybe we'll get a regional varient, but I'm not sure if there's anything that can be done to make it more Nessy-esque than it already is
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There are a few rumors that the fossil pokemon are actually going to be based off cryptids, with one being a nessie and the other being a bigfoot. I'd take that one with a pile of salt though.
 
El Porko Fako said:
We got that last Gen with Tsareena. It even has a crown and has an ability called Queenly Majesty (Pretty solid too.)

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Wouldn't mind more of the female exclusive Pokemon though. They're fun. Since I got the Corgi Pokemon I wanted, next I want a Loch Ness monster Pokemon. They can even make it legendary they're feeling cute.
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I'd also like to add once again how they introduced another feminine pokemon called Salazzle.
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A pokemon that you can only get by training a female salandit. The only pokemon before hand that had that strict of a evolution requirement were Froslass and Vespiquin.
 
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El Porko Fako said:
Since I got the Corgi Pokemon I wanted, next I want a Loch Ness monster Pokemon. They can even make it legendary they're feeling cute.
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The Affleck leak (the one that's been getting everything 100% correct mentioned that Lapras would be getting a Gigantamax form, so that's probably what you're getting. Plus like @Ilikeoreos said, Lapras is already designed after Nessie.
 
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