Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Thiletonomics said:
Most of the Ride Pokémon (Tauros, Lapras, Machamp, Charizard) were from Gen 1.
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I forgot about them entirely, not gonna lie.
Tate McRae said:
Well then at least give me another gen 2 remake!
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So you can sneak Kanto in in the post game I take it? Fuck that - Kanto and Gen 1 in general needs to Fuck Off for at least a generation or two, but that sure as shit isn’t going to happen off the sheer autistic screeching that’ll happen on Social Media…
 
Tate McRae said:
But we aren't pandered to. Nintendo just keeps destroying Pokemon's legacy by giving us things nobody asked for. I don't think anyone was asking for the Let's Go games. Nobody likes the Pokemon GO inclusion and the Pikachu petting is lame. The game doesn't even include the extra islands from the GBA remakes.
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2 gen 1 remakes, every single collaboration, 3 revisits with the TCG, and I can go on. The first generation are the most shilled Pokémon and any time they try deviating from that nostalgia tards get angry.
anliteralidiot said:
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Why would you describe exeggcute like this?

You've had two Gen 1 remakes.
Fuck off.
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They’ll complain about later gen design being lazy, but ignore the lazy designs in gen 1. They don’t want to accept that every gen has gems and duds, mainly because they’re usually not really fans.
 
Abella said:
Genwunners will complain about anything outside of the original 151 and will pretend they aren’t the most pandered to.
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This is why pandering to genwunners isn't worth it. They will never like anything past gen 3 no matter how many Kanto callbacks there are, and everyone else will be annoyed by all the Kantoooooo getting shoved in their faces.
 
Tate McRae said:
Gen 1 and 2 are the best. 3 is okay, 4 is good. 5 is good as well.
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I like 6 best because of ORAS. If there weren't ORAS, I think I'd see 5 as best, and 4 if 5 didn't have BW2. And 4 is still best when it comes to the Mystery Dungeon series.

(BTW, I was keeping up with pocketmons from Gen 1 to Gen 6. Way back in the days, I thought 2 was better than 1 when it was released.)
 
ToroidalBoat said:
>"Its brain cells multiply continually until it dies. As a result, it remembers everything."
>"Its brain can outperform a supercomputer. Its intelligence quotient is said to be 5,000."
>"Its superb memory lets it recall everything it has experienced from birth. Its IQ exceeds 5,000."
>can only know 4 moves at a time

OK then 🤔

(not the first to notice this BTW)
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Did Nintendo try to do mechanically unusual Pokemon besides the one with 1 hp or the one that could disguise itself as another Pokemon? It seems to mainly be stat creep and paragraph long abilities.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Did Nintendo try to do mechanically unusual Pokemon besides the one with 1 hp or the one that could disguise itself as another Pokemon? It seems to mainly be stat creep and paragraph long abilities.
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Gen6:
  • Aegislash with Stance Change.
  • Hawlucha's Flying Press that deals TWO kinds of damage instead of one (i.e. it's BOTH Fighting and Flying even though it's listed as a fighting type move)
  • Gourgeist's different sizes and how it affects its stats overall depending on the size.
Gen7:
  • Wishiwashi with School Form
  • Minor with Shields Down
  • Komala with Comatose (can't sleep because it's ALWAYS asleep). Can't be affected by burn/paralyses/freeze either
Not sure about the last two gens.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
Gen6:
  • Aegislash with Stance Change.
  • Hawlucha's Flying Press that deals TWO kinds of damage instead of one (i.e. it's BOTH Fighting and Flying even though it's listed as a fighting type move)
  • Gourgeist's different sizes and how it affects its stats overall depending on the size.
Gen7:
  • Wishiwashi with School Form
  • Minor with Shields Down
  • Komala with Comatose (can't sleep because it's ALWAYS asleep). Can't be affected by burn/paralyses/freeze either
Not sure about the last two gens.
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Most of those are due to abilities. Outside of abilities you've also got Smeargle being able to learn most moves, Alcremie's different flavors, Spinda's spots and Vivillon's and Furfrou's forms, but the last three are just cosmetic.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Did Nintendo try to do mechanically unusual Pokemon besides the one with 1 hp or the one that could disguise itself as another Pokemon? It seems to mainly be stat creep and paragraph long abilities.
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Shuckle could turn a held berry into berry juice in gen 2.
Squawking Macaw said:
Most of those are due to abilities.
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The two gimmicks mentioned in that post are reliant on their abilities, too.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
(BTW, I was keeping up with pocketmons from Gen 1 to Gen 6. Way back in the days, I thought 2 was better than 1 when it was released.)
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Gen 2 would be better had Game Freak not made the new mons inferior to Gen 1, not to mention easier and earlier to find too. Even all the way back in Gen 2, Game Freak were not letting to completely give up Gen 1 because that's what people only seem to know due to America homogenization lol.
 
Danann said:
Gen 2 would be better had Game Freak not made the new mons inferior to Gen 1, not to mention easier and earlier to find too. Even all the way back in Gen 2, Game Freak were not letting to completely give up Gen 1 because that's what people only seem to know due to America homogenization lol.
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That's because Game Freak back then was still trying to keep the idea that the Pokemon species are still being discovered in-universe. If you go back and read really old material put out by Game Freak in Japan back in Gen 1, there's a whole backstory they wrote about the history of in-universe Pokemon zoology, and it pretty much treats Pokemon like cryptids who are separate from normal animals, and their separation from normal animals and the study of them only became formalized in the late 1800s with species getting slowly cataloged over the decades after, with Prof. Oak being a leading member in the field who contributed a lot to getting the total number of cataloged species up to 150 by the 1990s.

This whole idea got sort of dropped and hidden away with Gen 3 because trying to keep the idea that each generations new set of 100-ish Pokemon are literally being discovered in-universe would start getting ridiculous, plus there was the general shift in tone in the series as it finished being totally corporate and the change in development lead from Tajiri to Masuda. (Though they do still reference some things brought up in that old material, like all Pokemon naturally having the ability to shrink to pocket-size when severely hurt which lead to the development of Pokeballs, or Pokemon eggs not being literal eggs but protective shells they put over newborn Pokemon.)

So yeah, when they were making Gold/Silver, they were still doing it under the premise that the 100 new Pokemon introduced in the game were literally just being discovered or cataloged in-universe, so they couldn't have most of them be common Pokemon that would be silly for researchers to have missed before now, so hence most of them either evolutions of old Pokemon requiring new evo methods, baby Pokemon when it's made clear that Pokemon breeding is still in early stages of research, or just plain rare Pokemon that have low spawn rates.
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
Gen 8 - Leon’s Fucking Charizard.
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I'd like to add that the only non-Gen 9 pokemon that got Dynamax designs are Gen 1 mons. There are no Gen 2 to 7 Dynamax designs, with the exception of Garbordor which is Gen 5 (which I assume it was made because it's the ace of one of the late-game bosses)

There's also barely non-Kanto Galar forms too. It's actually insane how glazed Gen 1 was in those games.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
This whole idea got sort of dropped and hidden away with Gen 3 because trying to keep the idea that each generations new set of 100-ish Pokemon are literally being discovered in-universe would start getting ridiculous
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And then XY did the same thing with the Fairy type:
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Surely the Kalosians didn't take until the modern age to test the effects of Close Combat on a Clefable?

Retarded Weeb said:
Though they do still reference some things brought up in that old material, like all Pokemon naturally having the ability to shrink to pocket-size when severely hurt which lead to the development of Pokeballs
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I thought that was a contrivance added by Legends Arceus to explain how apricorn Poke Balls worked. It's weird that most Pokemon can't learn Minimize when they all have the innate ability to shrink, especially when almost all of them could learn Toxic before SwSh.
 
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