Played Mother 3 - for the first time in probably a decade

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Postmodernist Disaster said:
Why didn't they made a different OST then for an internation release then?
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I imagine a combo of that they'd have to make new heartbeats/rhythms for the songs and that'd be a pain in the ass and fans would be upset about it.
But who really knows.
It's probably really that Reggie was just pissed off at getting annoyed by Mother fans constantly sending him letters.
Speaking of, I can't believe they put Reggie IN mother 3 as a racist caricature. Pretty fucked up, Nintendo.
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It is funny how I'm assuming he's some kind of Jamaican dude that lives in Tazmily in a teepee with a cow head doorbell. So a Jamaican Native-aboo who moved to a white western town (just going by how Tazmily looks). I wonder if he had hoped to see more injuns but there weren't even any there. Or maybe it's just his passion.
I do like the touches of everyday weirdness like this. Duster's limp was added for a similar reason, just because there are people with such issues irl and you see them every once in a while. I almost named him Gimpy on my run.
 
The Lawgiver said:
Sometimes I wonder how exactly unused sprites and flashback cutscenes from the final stretch would look if they had time to implement them before release. I know there's vids trying to approximate it but still.
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Have they ever talked about what was cut for time/resource purposes? One thing about leftover content is there's many reasons it can be there, including the natural editing and revising that comes along with putting a piece of art together. It does take a long time to really reveal its connection to the wider series, though I guess the pig/pork thing would have been more suggestive to someone who always knew him as "Porky."

The more I think about it, M3 does have a few key plot points that kind of vanish from my memory unless I go hunting for them. It might simply be a side effect of the prominence of the Pigmasks and that final battle with the Masked Man being such a hugely memorable moment - the lore of the Nowhere Islands always felt like an "oh yeah, that happened too." I'm not sure the Hummingbird Egg ever has a real purpose to the plot aside from everyone wanting it?

I don't really know what to make of the Dragon, both as a plot device and as an ending. It being a dragon instead of some other mystical force always felt weird to me, but it's a weird game. I guess pulling the final needle is similar to the reset their ancestors sought with the white ship. They tried to give it a hopeful tone, but the end of the world wasn't really the payoff I was hoping for. Again, I think the fact that the Masked Man was such a huge payoff helped ease the sting here.

These days I gravitate a little more towards M3 than M2, maybe because M2 has just been in my life much longer. It took me a while to warm up to it but now I throw on M3 for background music much more than 2.
 
lichen said:
Have they ever talked about what was cut for time/resource purposes? One thing about leftover content is there's many reasons it can be there, including the natural editing and revising that comes along with putting a piece of art together. It does take a long time to really reveal its connection to the wider series, though I guess the pig/pork thing would have been more suggestive to someone who always knew him as "Porky."
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I was put off that Dr. Andonuts didn't mention Jeff or the "Chosen Four" at all. It's like another similar character named the same thing. The equivalent of Cid in Final Fantasy, basically.

It should be noted that as late as of 1997 or 1998 it was mentioned that Dr. Andonuts was a "tentative addition" to the game.
 
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We now have the power of Racism on our side.

While I was getting myself a refill of red white and berry Smirnoff, my better half took the controller and ran into THREE black beanlings and got Lucas and Boney to level 33 before I even got to this area.
Literally insane, it's like a 1% chance of even running into them.
Anyway I got through Club Tittyboob. This whole part felt very Undertale to me. Lot of weird and silly humor.
"You smell like an underage kid and a dog" etc.

The children yearn to work in the factories.
I feel like the game is really starting now that the whole gang is together, though.
Getting to the part where we see the HAARP machine that was trying to blow up based and redpilled people's houses.
I wonder if there's a real life equivalent of this yet.
The old folks home made me pretty sad, though. Poor Wess...
 
Whiskeybone said:
The maygpsies... I'll probably have a more concrete thing to say about them later.
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A couple of them having a sort of elf-like disdain for humoids being based despite living short lives, even for children, comes as a shock even for Alec.
Even a human feels something for a baby animal, even if it only lives a few years. Though I guess not all of them, especially the monkey-haters. Speaking of monkey-haters ...
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Them term "Fairy" would have worked better than Magypsy; it works as a nice pun.
 
Xarpho's Return said:
Yeah, for the "HURR DURR CAPITALISM IS BAD" thinking, isn't also the idea that immigration/replacement also bad? Basically, you have "others" move into an area and start the calling the shots. There's a theory that this was an analogy to Americans in Japan after World War II, which wasn't quite "immigration" but they made some rather radical cultural changes, which a lot of people were unhappy about.
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It'sless a capitalism bad/immigration bad situation and more like "lumping every modern development at brakeneck speed of only a few years in a comically bastardized way that is inherently made so people get fucked over because a fat kid who stole a time machine got bored and got the idea to do it because he is THAT fucking much of a dick." situation.

Ah I forgot for a bit the simple term for this kinda situation without the evil fuckery is "future shock".
 
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We now have the power of Racism on our side.

While I was getting myself a refill of red white and berry Smirnoff, my better half took the controller and ran into THREE black beanlings and got Lucas and Boney to level 33 before I even got to this area.
Literally insane, it's like a 1% chance of even running into them.
Anyway I got through Club Tittyboob. This whole part felt very Undertale to me. Lot of weird and silly humor.
"You smell like an underage kid and a dog" etc.

The children yearn to work in the factories.
I feel like the game is really starting now that the whole gang is together, though.
Getting to the part where we see the HAARP machine that was trying to blow up based and redpilled people's houses.
I wonder if there's a real life equivalent of this yet.
The old folks home made me pretty sad, though. Poor Wess...
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I forgot the game made a child get into a bath with a literal tranny to "awaken" things... nasty. But the creator also says Jeff's "2 minutes of screen time" friend from Earthbound was gay for him so maybe there is extra nastiness going on in the jap's mind.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
I forgot the game made a child get into a bath with a literal tranny to "awaken" things... nasty. But the creator also says Jeff's "2 minutes of screen time" friend from Earthbound was gay for him so maybe there is extra nastiness going on in the jap's mind.
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Not a tranny, just kinda looks like one. big difference. This game was made before troons co-opted magypsy shit and demanded to be taken seriously instead of as comedic mythical characters. yes I know it's hard to envision a time before the eternal current year for people these days but shit wasn't always like this.

Also jeff's friend has fuckall to do with anything and him being gay makes like 0 difference in the plot.
 
The Lawgiver said:
Not a tranny, just kinda looks like one. big difference. This game was made before troons co-opted magypsy shit and demanded to be taken seriously instead of as comedic mythical characters. yes I know it's hard to envision a time before the eternal current year for people these days but shit wasn't always like this.
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They're technically not trannies, more like a parody of drag queens (which is splitting hairs), but canonically they're a whole different species that "just so happen" to look like faggots.

The Lawgiver said:
Also jeff's friend has fuckall to do with anything and him being gay makes like 0 difference in the plot.
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The point is rEpReSenTaTiOn (virtue signalling).
 
SSj_Ness said:
They're technically not trannies, more like a parody of drag queens (which is splitting hairs), but canonically they're a whole different species that "just so happen" to look like faggots.
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The Japanese don't really make a distinction as far as I know. Whether you're gay, trans, a drag queen, or just otherwise generally faggy, you're an "okama".
 
Maniacal Foreigner said:
The Japanese don't really make a distinction as far as I know. Whether you're gay, trans, a drag queen, or just otherwise generally faggy, you're an "okama".
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No I mean the guys in mother 3 are literally genderless magic fairies that have both physical elements of male and females simultaneously. Yes I know what they're based on visibly.
SSj_Ness said:
They're technically not trannies, more like a parody of drag queens (which is splitting hairs), but canonically they're a whole different species that "just so happen" to look like faggots.
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Basically this. A big part of the visual humor is these are like incredibly ancient wise beings and they just so happen to look like fucking weirdo degenerates.

Now if you wanted an actual example of the gay/trans/drag queen trifecta in media marketed to kids from the 2000s ONE PIECE have a a literal fag island where they try grooming sanji. Most of the okama in one piece though are friendly but also shown as weird and kinda gross which makes it surpising to me how many anti-fun eternal current year types have like latched onto it.

SSj_Ness said:
The point is rEpReSenTaTiOn (virtue signalling).
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IIRC the gay comment was from a little before the eternal current year and was just like one of those weird small character traits never brought up that's added on as like a little piece of trivia but I could be remembering wrong. Still yeah nowadays it's only used by video game video essayist people as some kinda "own" against people they want to frame as hating gay people.
 
Earthbound/Mother series is perhaps the tippy top cringiest of the cringe weaboo JRPG garbage.

What you see in this thread is what I like to call "Earthbound Disease" which means you don't play the game for 10 - 20 years at a time and misremember basic shit in the game. Like, vietnam war veterans who can't find vietnam on a map anymore. So what they do is overthink it and you see shit like in this thread, where a character doesn't say anything in-game for 30 mins and they try too hard to inject what they think was going on. Like, no nigga, they just got lazy and didn't write anything lmao.

In 2013 Earthbound was re-released on the Wii virtual console and hipsters lost their fucking mind because now "normies could play it easily" and there was massive outcry to get the game removed from the store, so that hipster fucks could continue to not play their shitty smelly nostalgia game again and keep it a secret club. That's really all you need to know.

Earthbound / Mother 2 / Mother 3 was never ever ever good and you didn't think it was good until you didn't play it for 10 years. These games attract flies to dogshit because the theme of the games is to make fun of americans so it attracts loser faggots who hate america because they hate themselves. This is why hipsters love this shitty game. Also it has slight random adult themes once in a while which is guaranteed to make hipsters go wild, just like they obsess over MLP for 15 years because of one fucking little adult joke, instead of just watching an adult show or movie.

All Earthbound fans are NPCs because they always repeat the same 5 things about how "iToI iS a gEniUs" and "gIgYaS iS a vAgiNa aCtUaLlY" and "tHiS gAmE iS sO qUiRkY lOl" and spend fucking decades making shitty memes about everything gigyas says, memes of the game over screen, and the same shit where they take that one song and put it on 2004 era demotivation memes.

Source: Actually go play the game again for 5 minutes.
 
llllIllIllIIIIllI said:
Earthbound/Mother series is perhaps the tippy top cringiest of the cringe weaboo JRPG garbage.

What you see in this thread is what I like to call "Earthbound Disease" which means you don't play the game for 10 - 20 years at a time and misremember basic shit in the game. Like, vietnam war veterans who can't find vietnam on a map anymore. So what they do is overthink it and you see shit like in this thread, where a character doesn't say anything in-game for 30 mins and they try too hard to inject what they think was going on. Like, no nigga, they just got lazy and didn't write anything lmao.

In 2013 Earthbound was re-released on the Wii virtual console and hipsters lost their fucking mind because now "normies could play it easily" and there was massive outcry to get the game removed from the store, so that hipster fucks could continue to not play their shitty smelly nostalgia game again and keep it a secret club. That's really all you need to know.

Earthbound / Mother 2 / Mother 3 was never ever ever good and you didn't think it was good until you didn't play it for 10 years. These games attract flies to dogshit because the theme of the games is to make fun of americans so it attracts loser faggots who hate america because they hate themselves. This is why hipsters love this shitty game. Also it has slight random adult themes once in a while which is guaranteed to make hipsters go wild, just like they obsess over MLP for 15 years because of one fucking little adult joke, instead of just watching an adult show or movie.

All Earthbound fans are NPCs because they always repeat the same 5 things about how "iToI iS a gEniUs" and "gIgYaS iS a vAgiNa aCtUaLlY" and "tHiS gAmE iS sO qUiRkY lOl" and spend fucking decades making shitty memes about everything gigyas says, memes of the game over screen, and the same shit where they take that one song and put it on 2004 era demotivation memes.

Source: Actually go play the game again for 5 minutes.
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Whether this is bait or actual derangement whatever I respond with will have no effect.
All I can do is pray. (Woah! just like in Earth Bound!)
 
llllIllIllIIIIllI said:
Earthbound/Mother series is perhaps the tippy top cringiest of the cringe weaboo JRPG garbage.

What you see in this thread is what I like to call "Earthbound Disease" which means you don't play the game for 10 - 20 years at a time and misremember basic shit in the game. Like, vietnam war veterans who can't find vietnam on a map anymore. So what they do is overthink it and you see shit like in this thread, where a character doesn't say anything in-game for 30 mins and they try too hard to inject what they think was going on. Like, no nigga, they just got lazy and didn't write anything lmao.

In 2013 Earthbound was re-released on the Wii virtual console and hipsters lost their fucking mind because now "normies could play it easily" and there was massive outcry to get the game removed from the store, so that hipster fucks could continue to not play their shitty smelly nostalgia game again and keep it a secret club. That's really all you need to know.

Earthbound / Mother 2 / Mother 3 was never ever ever good and you didn't think it was good until you didn't play it for 10 years. These games attract flies to dogshit because the theme of the games is to make fun of americans so it attracts loser faggots who hate america because they hate themselves. This is why hipsters love this shitty game. Also it has slight random adult themes once in a while which is guaranteed to make hipsters go wild, just like they obsess over MLP for 15 years because of one fucking little adult joke, instead of just watching an adult show or movie.

All Earthbound fans are NPCs because they always repeat the same 5 things about how "iToI iS a gEniUs" and "gIgYaS iS a vAgiNa aCtUaLlY" and "tHiS gAmE iS sO qUiRkY lOl" and spend fucking decades making shitty memes about everything gigyas says, memes of the game over screen, and the same shit where they take that one song and put it on 2004 era demotivation memes.

Source: Actually go play the game again for 5 minutes.
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lol calm down
 
The Lawgiver said:
Now if you wanted an actual example of the gay/trans/drag queen trifecta in media marketed to kids from the 2000s ONE PIECE have a a literal fag island where they try grooming sanji. Most of the okama in one piece though are friendly but also shown as weird and kinda gross which makes it surpising to me how many anti-fun eternal current year types have like latched onto it.
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In One Piece, the first okama to be introduced was "Mr. 2 Bon Clay", with both names because he was one of the "male" partnerships (Mr. 1, Mr. 2, etc.) and the female partnerships (all holiday festival-based, though some of them are more obscure; Miss Doublefinger refers to holding up two fingers, or rather "1-1", New Year's Day). Mr. 2 has his good side but he's also an exceptionally weird and creepy person. He endeared himself to Luffy because Luffy likes exceptionally weird and creepy people (he jumped at the chance to add a talking man-reindeer and living skeleton to the crew).
 
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