Persona community - A community that worships a fictional vigilante group. It also has tons of fanatical waifufags, coomers and people who don't even play the games of this series.

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Thiletonomics said:
What I wonder about Persona fans that don't play the games, is it because the PC versions all have Denuvo Anti-Tamper, in addition to the usual localization fuckery that happens with Japanese-made games released in English? Or do they play the games on console, where Denuvo isn't an issue?
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I don't think Denuvo is really THAT much of a deterrent, because tons of games use it and still sell well on Steam. The simplest explanation is the easiest: JRPGs are massive time sinks, and not everyone's willing to deal with that. Just look at the HowLongToBeat stats on some of the main games:
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I mean, think about it: If you weren't super into JRPGs but you cared about anime waifus, would you rather spend 60-80 hours playing Golden, or go watch the anime adaptation of Persona 4 that's only 25 episodes long?

On the subject of Persona communities: I don't know what it is about Sega-published games in particular, but much like Sonic and the Yakuza/Like A Dragon games, there's a massive pc modding scene with all sorts of insane autism as well. You get some really smart quality of life mods, all sorts of custom costumes, people editing the script because they really hate that x character didn't say what they wanted her to say in one scene, etc.

We even get mods you didn't even know you needed, but they exist now, and I'm glad they do. My personal favorite "wtf" mod is someone managed to get Doom running in Persona 5.
 
Thiletonomics said:
What I wonder about Persona fans that don't play the games, is it because the PC versions all have Denuvo Anti-Tamper, in addition to the usual localization fuckery that happens with Japanese-made games released in English? Or do they play the games on console, where Denuvo isn't an issue?
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I'm gonna go ahead and hazard a guess that it's like the, and you can put damn near any fandom/community into this spot, but it's like the Overwatch community, where they're more interested in it as a topic and not what it actually is. I'm using Overwatch here, because I feel it's one of the easier to see and understand with the comments I'm going to make, but as I said earlier, you can probably fill this in with a number of communities. With that being said...

One of the problems with fandoms/communities is you get a lot of people who exist on the tertiary of whatever it is. Overwatch et al has a lot of artists and social types, they don't play the game, but somehow make it a huge part of their life. You can often identify these social people, as they'll make sweeping comments about a character and their beliefs/behavior/etc, when it's quite possible, none of these things have even been covered (yet). Case in point, in Overwatch, in the... I don't remember if it was just in announcement mode or the Beta had dropped, but one of Tracer's win poses; and some lunatic took to the official forums and on top of his argument of the win pose (girl's back and ass pointed at you, she's looking over her shoulder) he stated it doesn't befit her character. The game hadn't even had an official launch, and you have some fucking weirdo making statements about what a fictional fucking character would be; and if you need to ask, no it wasn't even part of the Blizzard team, was some basic fucking gamer. So with that in mind, I also ask you to recall our recent political situation, where everyone is reciting pop culture as a reason to resist Trump; they're not quoting the founders, a notable politician, a general, or anyone else in real life, they're using fucking pop culture (mostly Young Adult) as a fucking rallying cry. And with The Internet being what it is, and online communities being what they are (hug boxes with strict vetting) who can't handle a simple disagreement about anything, you don't actually have to partake in the actual game to be seen as a member of the community. Game stats or mechanics; no, I like the lore/story/characters/etc. You don't have to know what's going on, but as long as you toe the line in the properly acceptable fashion, you're fine. Now throw in all the social/behavioral/mental problems these people have, and the game isn't even a thing they really do, as much as it is the bonfire to interact with one another, but not in the game and not about the game, just around it.

I could've saved a lot of time by saying the world is cucked and they're all soulless husks, but I felt obligated to at least defend my thought process.
 
Alright, I'm done archiving the Ann analysis video. I reduced the size and quality (the original 12 hour and approx. 40 minutes long video was 16 GB), so it could be uploaded on this forum, I don't think you will watch it in 4k in an auditorium.
 
I got some stuff to contribute to the thread, primarily the Sonic Makoto greentext where Makoto Niijima is severely autistic and gets forced into prostitution/raped by Joker.
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Is the Persona community still complaining that the franchise, that's always had teenage protagonists, hasn't aged up the protagonist, instead of just accepting that they aged out of the target audience?
 
I forgot to add in my previous post, but I got quite a few more.
An infamous guy within the Persona community would be Nyarlko, who made a staggering amount of headcanons on Pastebin regarding the Hashino Persona girls in increasingly disturbing situations. It ranged from "How they wake up in the morning" to "How they would behave if they were being choked out" to "What their bodies would be like if they died and you had sex with their bodies."

While the original pastebin was deleted a little bit ago, the archive still exists on Internet Archive. I do not recommend reading these in public.



Another sort of funny moment within the Persona community would be the cannibalism poll on GameFAQs, where someone asked which of the P5 girls would taste the best.

Finally, there was also Jamezietocool, a Persona Youtuber who made Persona Memeverse, and was among the biggest Persona YouTubers, even getting Robbie Daymond to voice act one of the episodes. As from what I have found, he would be canceled after a Twitter controversy where it was found that he was being abusive to his girlfriend. He would reportedly extremely rude to his girlfriend at the time, calling her selfish for breaking up with him, and saying that she was putting her health problems over his work burnout, trying to say those two were equivalent issues. I should mention that the health issue was apparently that she had cancer. He would also send his fans to harass her on Twitter.

He privated his channel, and would copyright strike anyone who tried to re-upload the series. I have had trouble trying to find the archives of the series.

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Anime=Tranime said:
Is the Persona community still complaining that the franchise, that's always had teenage protagonists, hasn't aged up the protagonist, instead of just accepting that they aged out of the target audience?
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Yes. Seen people use the game's ESRB rating to justify the bitching. The games are given some form of a T rating everywhere but North America. Even the stories are clearly made with teenagers in mind. I don't know what it's so hard to just accept that you're playing games intended for teenagers.
 
Agent Abe Caprine said:
Yes. Seen people use the game's ESRB rating to justify the bitching. The games are given some form of a T rating everywhere but North America. Even the stories are clearly made with teenagers in mind. I don't know what it's so hard to just accept that you're playing games intended for teenagers.
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I think the issue is that you can only do so much narrative and gameplay ideas revolving around teenage life before it starts to get stale. I do get why teens get a big focus in JRPGs, especially Persona. It's that cross-roads in your life where you're about to finish your school years and enter adult life, with all the complicated emotions and decision-making that entails. But I do like that Persona didn't limit itself to just interactions with other teenagers. The protagonists were allowed to interact with other kinds of people, like adults, elders, parents, children, etc.

I have my issues with the Persona color trilogy (3,4,5), but at this point I do have to wonder what they'll bring to the table for Persona 6. Will it be a re-hash/copy of Persona 5, the most popular one? It's always a concern whenever a franchise or series gets big in recognition, because it means the next game could lose the finer touches that helped to make the earlier games extra special.

P6 still hasn't been announced yet, so I'm not spending as much time thinking about Persona as I did in my younger years.
 
Pinball 2000 said:
I mean, think about it: If you weren't super into JRPGs but you cared about anime waifus, would you rather spend 60-80 hours playing Golden, or go watch the anime adaptation of Persona 4 that's only 25 episodes long?
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I mean, the anime is just objectively better. Gets the story across and adds onto it in meaningful ways. Though the JRPG part of persona is probably it's worst quality in general IMO, it feels like these games would lend themselves better to being VNs than they do RPGs, a good game has the story and gameplay work in unison, in Persona, the gameplay feels like a hindrance to the story which makes it insufferable whenever a meaningful character moment gets a gay ass boss fight you have to complete before being able to see the rest.
MJ2026 said:
But I do like that Persona didn't limit itself to just interactions with other teenagers. The protagonists were allowed to interact with other kinds of people, like adults, elders, parents, children, etc.
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That's the reason I prefer Persona 5 Scramble to the original game. Even if Zenkichi was mostly just Dojima 2.0, I quite liked him. There's also the fact that the game doesn't consist of 90% setting the phantom thieves only to have them actually do anything cool for the last 10% of it and just gets to the point immediately. It's definitely telling how unnecessary two thirds of the game were as I watched a friend play it before ever seeing the original game and understood the cast's dynamics and personalities after the first scene.
 
Thiletonomics said:
What I wonder about Persona fans that don't play the games, is it because the PC versions all have Denuvo Anti-Tamper, in addition to the usual localization fuckery that happens with Japanese-made games released in English? Or do they play the games on console, where Denuvo isn't an issue?
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Because long JRPGs are too boring for the average doofus in the Persona fanbase and the games are story heavy so you can "watch" them on YouTube.

Danganronpa, which also has a big overlap with Persona's fanbase, suffers from this as well for the same reasons.
 
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Darth Insanius said:
Because long JRPGs are too boring for the average doofus in the Persona fanbase and the games are story heavy so you can "watch" them on YouTube.

Danganronpa, which also has a big overlap with Persona's fanbase, suffers from this as well for the same reasons.
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I'm confused about danganronpa though. I played the first game when it was still only available as a patch for the japanese psp game. I had to read the story of the second from someone's blog, who was taking screenshots of the japanese game and paraphrasing what they were saying under each image.

The games aren't hard the way a jrpg is. You just run around the place, inspect things, and read dialogue. When the trials happen there's timed minigames, but if you fail you can retry it. Even P5, being ultra accessible to the casual player, is more complex than DR.

I gave up after the second game because it's only so long you can mantain someone's interest on cool mechanics when 95% of your cast is annoying or downright unlikeable.
 
MJ2026 said:
I think the issue is that you can only do so much narrative and gameplay ideas revolving around teenage life before it starts to get stale.
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This has always been true of coming-of-age stories, by their very nature.
That's why they target the current teenagers who haven't yet experience these narratives before, to which the topic is still naturally novel, not adults who experienced them and being a teenager 10 years ago.
You're supposed to move on from these types of stories as you grow up.
 
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Surprised there's no mention of that leaker who pretended to be a Japanese woman and took credit for "leaking" Persona 6 info that already existed. He was an entirely different figure in the community and just decided to LARP.

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There were Google dockeys and such.
 
Verdun_Salient said:
An infamous guy within the Persona community would be Nyarlko, who made a staggering amount of headcanons on Pastebin regarding the Hashino Persona girls in increasingly disturbing situations. It ranged from "How they wake up in the morning" to "How they would behave if they were being choked out" to "What their bodies would be like if they died and you had sex with their bodies."
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I remember that guy. Initially they were just a few generic coomer hyperfixation posts (what would sex with the persona girls feel like, how would they react if you broke up with them, etc.) but then retards started to encourage him. The "choked out" post was actually "how do they react if you choke them to death". It was a request from another user and in the end of the post he apologized for possibly doing a poor job because it wasnt his fetish.
Around that time (2013 i think?) the persona community was pretty far gone. There wasn't a new persona, or even announcement of a new persona, for years. Instead there was P4 after P4 spinoff game. The arena game, the arena game turbo plus, the anime, golden edition, dancing all night, persona Q. You had something like 8 years of spinoffs primarily focussed on the persona 4 cast. Chinese drip torture of persona content. The result were threads that only survived on waifu wars. It's a shame, the earlier normal threads got me into learning the persona fusion system and creating super demons.

4chan /vg/ generals tend to create chat room queens that just talk with each other and spam anime girls. That's how you end up breeding nyarlkos.
Kheapathic said:
I'm not gonna get into the weeds about what version of Persona 3 was best, because it's a retarded argument of the modern audience screaming the female protagonist is better or better quality of life changes from the vanilla Persona 3.
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To be more precisely autistic, the struggle is between P3FES (updated persona 3) and P3P (PSP version of persona). P3FES has an overworld you can run through and the character cutscenes use the little 3d models in addition to talking heads, rather than just talking heads. These can add little extra flair to the interactions, like yukari hiding behind MC when they hear a suspicious sound in school at night. Or characters turning away in embarrassment. While P3P has a female MC that gives access to a few different S.links and full party control in dungeons.
It doesn't matter a lot, 90% of the content is the same, but autists like to turn these discussions into the equivalent of 9 hour analysis videos.
TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve said:
The first few hours are intentionally boring I think
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Nah, P3 is also terribly boring for the first 5 hours or so. The games their strongest suit is just letting you go through the daily cycles, school, S.linking and doing dungeon crawls. But instead of trying to get you to that point ASAP, they force you to go through hours of scripted story days. And even then, they could just make it a read and click-through fest. But they don't. You get control of your character and can run through school, but they only allow you to run to the next story point where they yank away control again.

Here's some thread tax.
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Any persona fan that complains about no fem-protag is a fucking troon and I'm tired of pretending they aren't. These fags actually think Atlus should do 1000+ hours if not days of work so they can goon from being a "real woman." p3 potable fans suck more than p5 and belong in a deep frying pot. YOU VILL ENJOY AI PARTY MEMBERS, YOU VILL PLAY A MALE CHARACTER, YOU VILL PLAY ON YHVH'S chosen CONSOLE, THE PS2, AND YOU VILL LIKE IT AND VILL BE HAPPY.

also jack bros > puzzle boy > SMT NINE > entire persona series unironically
 
The Rat KIng said:
Any persona fan that complains about no fem-protag is a fucking troon and I'm tired of pretending they aren't. These fags actually think Atlus should do 1000+ hours if not days of work so they can goon from being a "real woman." p3 potable fans suck more than p5 and belong in a deep frying pot. YOU VILL ENJOY AI PARTY MEMBERS, YOU VILL PLAY A MALE CHARACTER, YOU VILL PLAY ON YHVH'S chosen CONSOLE, THE PS2, AND YOU VILL LIKE IT AND VILL BE HAPPY.

also jack bros > puzzle boy > SMT NINE > entire persona series unironically
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I will never understand people who unironically recommend P3P over any other version of P3. They genuinely believe having controllable teammates and a female protagonist makes up for everything else in the game being completely stripped down or a downgrade.
 
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