Pedophilia Debate Thread - What are your thoughts on people who masturbate to neko shotas?

[NyQuilninja]

I think "lolicon" and "pedophile" where it's animu kiddos vs actual abused children in photographs have a decently large gap between them in terms of being problematic. Lots of anime characters are drawn younger than they look or are very age ambiguous anyway. Also lolicons in the Touhou fandom are a dime a dozen so I'd basically would have to hate everybody even more than I already do.
However, the more someone obsesses over their loli porn, the more I will internally label them a fucking deviant even if I might not express it. I never become bffs with anybody using their Danbooru gold account seriously.

Has an aviator of a anime girl
Doesn’t think lolicon is really an issue,
And isn’t quite same same as “real” child porn
(Makes you wonder) however why isn’t the same has child porn
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There both visual representations of children in sexual situations
And yes I do understand drawings are not real children
However just because a real child wasn’t harmed
doesn’t change the fact it’s a visual representation of children engaged in
sexual acts
And only pedos like child porn/loli

 

[PL 001]

Don't waste your breath trying to tell a deviant that they're deviant. Seems this place is turning into a second Reddit with all the pedo lovers/apologists that have seemed to crop up.

 

[NyQuilninja]

Don't waste your breath trying to tell a deviant that they're deviant. Seems this place is turning into a second Reddit with all the pedo lovers/apologists that have seemed to crop up.

Agreed
The “it’s only a drawing of a child “ agreement
Is like,
comparing Diet Coke to regular Coke
just because one is supposedly healthier than the Other,
Doesn't change the fact there both unhealthy carbonated sugar water.

 

[2hufag]

I'd rather compare it to vaping and cigarettes where one is a placeholder for the other that doesn't make surrounding people sick. Drawings of weird porn let people keep their weird shit a fantasy, and frankly if it seems to stay on that level, then I still believe real CP needs to have a higher priority. There's a valid argument to whether or not it's like a gateway drug which is why I said I don't support the mentality.

Can we normalize everybody? Doesn't seem like we can so at least have them diddling to doodles.

 

[NyQuilninja]

I'd rather compare it to vaping and cigarettes where one is a placeholder for the other that doesn't make surrounding people sick. Drawings of weird porn let people keep their weird shit a fantasy, and frankly if it seems to stay on that level, then I still believe real CP needs to have a higher priority. There's a valid argument to whether or not it's like a gateway drug which is why I said I don't support the mentality.

Can we normalize everybody? Doesn't seem like we can so at least have them diddling to doodles.

Drawings of weird porn let people keep their weird shit a fantasy, and frankly if it seems to stay on that level
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If into loli your fantasizing about have sex with children
Again just because it’s more acceptable pedophila
Doesn’t mean it’s not pedophila

 

[SJ 485]

Don't waste your breath trying to tell a deviant that they're deviant. Seems this place is turning into a second Reddit with all the pedo lovers/apologists that have seemed to crop up.

lol, does it make me a "pedo apologist" if I think anything short of hunting down people who look at CP and executing them on the spot is acceptable? Take a step back dude, laugh out loud calm down.

 

[PL 001]

lol, does it make me a "pedo apologist" if I think anything short of hunting down people who look at CP and executing them on the spot is acceptable? Take a step back dude, laugh out loud calm down.

No, you're not. I was acting like an idiot and let my emotions speak rather than act like a sane person. It's a subject I (clearly) have strong feelings on and should probably stay away from before embarrassing myself further.

 

[AprilRains]

No, you're not. I was acting like an idiot and let my emotions speak rather than act like a sane person. It's a subject I (clearly) have strong feelings on and should probably stay away from before embarrassing myself further.

nonsense, reply some more

 

[PinstripeLuns]

If you're jacking it to drawings of kids, anime eyes or not, you're still fucked. They've still got the child anatomy. I don't think you could stop people drawing this shit or wanking to it, and I don't know of any proof that loli or just drawn child porn causes a rise in molestation or rape or anything - it's just something to begrudgingly accept and make fun of the sickos that wank to it.

 

[CrazyRandomZyn]

I do have an issue with Pedophiles trying to insert their sick ideologies into the LGBTQ+ umbrella. Just my two cents.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

trying to insert their sick ideologies

That shit has been going on since at least the 1970s. And when the Ls and Gs let in the trannies, they got the pedos too. They need to clean up their alphabet soup.

 

[The Un-Clit]

If you're jacking it to drawings of kids, anime eyes or not, you're still fucked. They've still got the child anatomy. I don't think you could stop people drawing this shit or wanking to it, and I don't know of any proof that loli or just drawn child porn causes a rise in molestation or rape or anything - it's just something to begrudgingly accept and make fun of the sickos that wank to it.

If wanking to loli keeps them from creeping on and/or molesting actual children, I am all the fuck for it. Bury them in lolicon and shotacon, as much as the equally degenerate artists want to create. Breach that line once and mess with a kid knowing you're fucking them up for life, and you are forfeit.

In otherwords, #2. But know your deviance and stay within proscribed bounds, do no true evil. Then we're all good.

 

[Queen Of The Harpies]

Has an aviator of a anime girl
Doesn’t think lolicon is really an issue,
And isn’t quite same same as “real” child porn
(Makes you wonder) however why isn’t the same has child porn
...................................................................................................................................
There both visual representations of children in sexual situations
And yes I do understand drawings are not real children
However just because a real child wasn’t harmed
doesn’t change the fact it’s a visual representation of children engaged in
sexual acts
And only pedos like child porn/loli

Here is a helpful guide:

 

[betterbullocks]

Did Destiny "Lolis with Consent" Bonnel the Third start this thread?

Came here to post this
Also something something Amos Yee

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Hebephiles are just hipster pedophiles.

 

[NyQuilninja]

Here is a helpful guide:

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I think that just about clears up my question thank you

 

[Kitty Nikki]

Nikki's Pedophile Trait List:

• You jerk off to actual children, have thoughts of children being sexualized, create or use child pornography.
• You get your rocks off to lolicon or shotacon, get off to minors depicted doing lewd acts in an animation or illustration, or create lolicon/shotacon/child illustrations or animations for you or others to get their rocks off.
• Support pedophiles or say they aren't a threat.

This list I have provided is basically what I classify as a pedophile. Someone who does any of these actions.

The thing that sickens me the most with some people is the fact that they preach that if it's an animation or illustration, it's fictional and it's okay. This is not okay to go by tbh. Jerking off to children in fiction content is still pedophilia, no matter how you screw the bolt.

I recently got gaslit on a discord server because of how people are starting to support pedophiles. Someone mentioned to me that a popular lewd art creator recently came out as a pedophile and created art to indulge in his perversion. Like any sane person would, I told them that I'd never see that artist the same way again. They went on to say "that exact reaction right there is what harms people" or something along those lines. People started joining in on the discussion and a good 5-6 people despised me for saying I dislike pedophiles and pedophilia, even if it isn't a real child.

People seem to think that just because it is "harmless", it's okay. It isn't okay. People should not be supporting these pedophilic actions at all. People should be preaching to these individuals to get help or try to help them. Not pat them on the back and say "it's okay, bud. It's just a part of who you are."

These people need help. Not acceptance.

 

[Jester69]

"MOD EDIT: DO NOT GET MAD IN THIS THREAD. THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE OVER PEDOPHILIA. A-LOGGING PEOPLE MAKES YOU LOOK BAD AND SOUND CRINGY. PEDOPHILES ARE PEOPLE, TOO, THEREFORE THE RULE APPLIES HERE AS WELL. GETTING MAD, A-LOGGING OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT MAY WARRANT WARNING POINTS. "

What? Hahaha. Is this real? What mod made this edit? Sketchy as fuck bro. I get that people moralfag and go out of their way to prove that they are "like, super against pedophilia, guys." But giving warnings for people shitting on pedophiles? Hahahaha what???

"Pedophiles are people, too."

This is a joke, right? Hahaha

This mod considers pedophiles "people"? Cringe take. I don't know how big of an issue this is in this thread in particular, but when discussing pedophiles it's impossible to be objective in the gayest sense of the word. The only people I've seen being "objective" about pedophilia are pedophiles themselves, and they put on this facade of "wanting to learn different perspectives," meanwhile they will prod and shit on the people they are "debating."

Mod, cringe take. I understand why it's there, but it's mega cringe. People simply can't be this fantastical binary computer machine when the subject of pedophilia is discussed. It is a huge problem and the acceptance or even the "serious discussions" about it validate it, which in turn begets more pedophilia with the facade of "objectivity" to fester and grow.

 

[Fapcop]

lol, does it make me a "pedo apologist" if I think anything short of hunting down people who look at CP and executing them on the spot is acceptable? Take a step back dude, laugh out loud calm down.

Is it just me or has pedophila and pedophiles become more slippery of a definition these last couple of years?

10-15 years ago, it wasn’t that unusual for girls in their teens to have a boyfriend who was 18, 19 or maybe 20 years old.

Of course, you were kinda pissed if you were a 15 year old boy, but it was the way of things. What could you do. The guy had a car, how can you compete with that?!

Today, you unironically call people pedophiles for doing that. Idk, seems like there’s been an inflation or something of the term.

 

[SJ 485]

"MOD EDIT: DO NOT GET MAD IN THIS THREAD. THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE OVER PEDOPHILIA. A-LOGGING PEOPLE MAKES YOU LOOK BAD AND SOUND CRINGY. PEDOPHILES ARE PEOPLE, TOO, THEREFORE THE RULE APPLIES HERE AS WELL. GETTING MAD, A-LOGGING OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT MAY WARRANT WARNING POINTS. "

What? Hahaha. Is this real? What mod made this edit? Sketchy as fuck bro. I get that people moralfag and go out of their way to prove that they are "like, super against pedophilia, guys." But giving warnings for people shitting on pedophiles? Hahahaha what???

"Pedophiles are people, too."

This is a joke, right? Hahaha

This mod considers pedophiles "people"? Cringe take. I don't know how big of an issue this is in this thread in particular, but when discussing pedophiles it's impossible to be objective in the gayest sense of the word. The only people I've seen being "objective" about pedophilia are pedophiles themselves, and they put on this facade of "wanting to learn different perspectives," meanwhile they will prod and shit on the people they are "debating."

Mod, cringe take. I understand why it's there, but it's mega cringe. People simply can't be this fantastical binary computer machine when the subject of pedophilia is discussed. It is a huge problem and the acceptance or even the "serious discussions" about it validate it, which in turn begets more pedophilia with the facade of "objectivity" to fester and grow.

The point is not that they're people therefore you should be nice to them, the point is this is a humour website, and even though this is in the off-topic section of the site, a-logging is still unfunny as hell and not a worthwhile contribution to any discussion.
btw stop using "cringe" as an adjective, faggot