- Joined
- Mar 13, 2015
Lmao, Ukraine is a corrupt shithole which it's literal western half was polish, hungarian and romanian in the 1930s and annexed by stalin afterwards, and it's eastern half was a russian imperial colonial settlement with germans, jews and russians in the 1700s, Kiev was one of the main nucleous of russian national identity in the 1300s, crimea was russian administered until ukraine born khruschev gave it to the ukranian ssr in the 1950s.
Just because if America collapsed in the 1990s and virginia suddenly became a country, it wouldn't mean it actually it is de facto, and if trump wanted to re-annex it, why the fuck europe and britain would need to go bankrupt to save it?
It's baffling to a outsider seeing europe commiting economical suicide to prop up a jewish led country which has to use neo-nazi impressed militia to defend itself from a war it basically provoked when their democratically (although very corrupt) elected pro-russian goverment was ousted in a coup with cia support and started banning russian languages and shooting up and burning up people who spoke out against it.
A country which unlike russia or the baltics or even poland, refused to democratize, reform it's economy from soviet industrial parks owned by oligarchs, refused to reform it's judiciary and probably federalize to avoid minorities in the west and east and in crimea from chimping out, a country which tried to play both sides (Russkies and europe) at the same time.
A country which was so corrupt and unstable, both NATO and Russia in 1993 basically intervened and forced them into giving their nuclear weapons at basically gunpoint with vague promises of "we might help you and recognize your sovereignty in the future".
I don't care about Ukraine and neither should have you cared about it or poland in the 1930s, the price of risking nuclear war or economic collapse, because your green party led coalitions banned nuclear power whilst designed your entire post 1991 energy supply on russia and their client state of azerbaijan almost exclusively is not worth it saving a corrupt tiny state which it's main exports before 2014 was CP and truck drivers and oligarchs who bought soccer teams.
Same shit for Poland, going for Poland in 1939 ended up with it and half of europe being under the bootheel of communist totalitarians for 50 years, a complete collapse of the french and british economies and their empires and subsquent subservience to US interests
Too bad if you're a ukranian i guess, or a polack in 1939, but again, you were led or are being led by retarded leaders who think your newly minted nation can take on their largest dictatorial army neighbors and win or even survive.
If europe said fuck off lol to ukraine in 2022, or threatened putin with nuclear warheads immediately after the start of the war, it would had ended by march 2022 and far less people would be dead in both sides and ukrainian men wouldn't be extinct with their women in dubain or paris and half their country wouldn't be riddled with fiber optic cables and bomb craters.