One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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Momo already copped to this when Kanjuro kidnapped him at the beginning of act 3. The issue here is everyone else acknowledging it; Momonosuke is very well aware that he's in his father's shadow.
Yes. Point being was he needs to show everyone he is not his father and that's OK. Because even though Momo is aware, everyone else even after that still views him as needing to live up to Oden. Sorry misworded what I meant.
Kaido's deal with Oden was that his epic fight was interrupted so he got robbed of the chance to see whether or not Oden could truly beat him (Oden kicked his ass and was about to finish it). The fight with the Akazaya Nine had him flat out declare there will never be another samurai like Oden (mainly because he was disappointed Oden's retainers couldn't pull off what he did). Then Kaido relived it a few chapters ago when CP0 interrupted his fight with Luffy and was happy as shit that Luffy was able to bounce back from it and pick up where they left off.
Luffy isn't a samurai though. I think there needs to be a Samurai stronger than Oden and Kaido needs to live to see it. I'm absolutely sure that's why we haven't seen Momo yet.

I think Kaido might get his shot again. And lose. And it will be definitive and honourable. And be of course will have realised through both Luffy and Momo that he does not need to die to be complete.
 
Luffy isn't a samurai though. I think there needs to be a Samurai stronger than Oden and Kaido needs to live to see it. I'm absolutely sure that's why we haven't seen Momo yet.
There are no samurai that will ever match Oden. There doesn't seem to be anyone other than Hyogoro in his youth who could've come close to his level. He got stronger because he left Wano and was able to challenge himself by challenging all the threats of the outside world. Kaido's strength has also increased in the 20 years since Wano's original fall. What you're asking for cannot happen in the story organically or realistically.

Kaido doesn't give a shit about the samurai, he just wanted someone to match him in combat and possibly defeat him after a lifetime of dominating the fuck out of everything. I could make a reasonable guess that one of the reasons he came to Wano other than it being set up to become a weapons depot was that he'd heard the same rumors everyone else did: that the WG don't go near because of how strong the samurai were and legitimately expected some kind challenge, not realizing that it isn't actually filled with people as strong as Ryuma supposedly was.

(And for all we know, that might have been the case at one point, but centuries of isolationism and not needing to actually battle outside forces aka peace made them complacent and relatively weak, with only the criminal element like Hyogoro or Ashura Doji, the individual daimyo, or abberations like Oden being able to even potentially measure up.)
 
If that’s true, yes it absolutely caused the fights to lose focus. Probably also why the Arc in general has felt very strange pacing wise. With how everything has gone I honestly feel like Act 3’s big dramatic moment of tragedy was supposed to br Oden’s flashback - even though it was played heroic and not tragic - because nothing else comes close and it was moved to the start of Act 3 rather than the end just so Act 3 could be the entire Raid and Act 4 could tie up because Oda did not have enough time. Something has felt off this entire Arc. Oda rushing to meet expected milestones would be it.
Should be noted that, while Oda was pressured into doing something for chapter 1000 by his editors for a promotional campaign, he only started feeling that pressure around chapter 980. So he was well past Oden’s flashbacks by the time he started to shuffle things around. Which makes sense, a lot of the events of the raid only have narrative resonance because of the context those flashbacks provide.

Looking back, it feels like the things that ended up on the back—burner during this reshuffle were some of the smaller fights like Kiku vs Kanjuro and Yamato’s introduction.

Chapter 1000 did not feel very special to me honestly entirely because it felt rushed. Heck, there seemed to be setup where a straw hat would be left behind on each level as the rest rush to the roof allowing for one on one personal fights, and the levels went nowhere. You don’t introduce as many floors as you have main cast for any other reason than to leave one behind every floor to show the gauntlet that the overall fight is. And yet they just skip floors. Like what?
Re-reading Act 3 again, I think Onigashima is intended to be less of a tower crawl and more like a multi-layered theater stage. Kabuki stages traditionally have a main front stage being flanked by two additional stages to the left and right, the audience sitting in the center (and frequently interacting with the actors throughout the play), occasionally an additional stage that cuts through the audience to bridge the right and left stages, and then additional audience members sitting outside the stage area. And looking at the skull dome from above, the layout is similar,

So you got the samurai and beast pirates - representing those who are being effected directly by the outcome - serving as the audience on the performance floor, figures like CP0 and the Marys as the outermost spectators representing the outside world observing these events, all the events that effect the overarching plot (Wano, Orochi, the Yonko fights, etc.) are in Kaido’s castle and the roof (the center stage), many the supporting fights and more character-driven fights end up in the left and right towers (the side stages), and developments that have an immediate effect on the raid‘s chances (the Oni Ice virus, Tama’s dango powers taking effect, Kaido demanding Momo’s surrender, etc.) all bleed into the pseudo-audience on the performance floor. If I recall correctly, the raid even officially begins with the 9 Scabbards emerging behind a curtain from the rear end of Kaido’s castle and stabbing him, subsequently taking the fight onto the performance floor.

Oda is definitely committed to the theatrical elements of this arc.
 
What you're asking for cannot happen in the story organically or realistically.
Luffy went from being knocked out by Kaido to trading blows with him after a day of work.

Considering Momo got aged up 20 years by a magical fruit…I'm pretty sure it not only can happen organically but also realistically honestly.
Should be noted that, while Oda was pressured into doing something for chapter 1000 by his editors for a promotional campaign, he only started feeling that pressure around chapter 980.
Even if he only started feeling it then, he was undoubtedly aware of it earlier. And honestly Wano felt rushed to me since at the latest Act 2. Stuff just felt off.
Re-reading Act 3 again, I think Onigashima is intended to be less of a tower crawl and more like a multi-layered theater stage.
There's multilayered theatre stages and then directly pointing out there are 9 floors in an Arc where the concept of 9 people saving Wano is beaten into your head. Seems really weird not to put each straw hat on a different floor to start only for all hell to break loose when Roof Piece kicks off.

Oda is definitely committed to the theatrical elements of this arc.
Oh that he is,
 
Goldenweek is over and so is my vacation! No need for another break dammit. This Cliffhanger is gonna kill me.

I expect Kaido is 100% KO’D but Moriah was KO’D then out comes Bartholomew Kuma.

On the dub side of things, I’d like to point out that Ichiji, Niji, and Yonji surprisingly have different distinct voices. Niji even sounds like a tough Black Man.
 
Luffy went from being knocked out by Kaido to trading blows with him after a day of work.

Considering Momo got aged up 20 years by a magical fruit…I'm pretty sure it not only can happen organically but also realistically honestly.
"A day of work"? A day after Luffy was jobbed by Kaido he was locked up in Udon, where he trained until the day before the Fire Festival. That's about 12 days. And Luffy and his crew have spent the entire series fighting people and wrecking shit left and right, they've been at it for over 2 years

Momonosuke has no fighting ability whatsoever and is barely able to use his powers. If he got into a fight with say, Buggy, he'd get his ass kicked. Age ain't got a thing to do with it.
 

Momonosuke has no fighting ability whatsoever and is barely able to use his powers. If he got into a fight with say, Buggy, he'd get his ass kicked. Age ain't got a thing to do with it.
My point was OP is full of magical bs and crazy jumps in power by the main cast that happened beyond fast when you actually think about it.

Momo being a stupidly strong 28 year old is totally viable in this universe. And probably happening.
 
Even if he only started feeling it then, he was undoubtedly aware of it earlier. And honestly Wano felt rushed to me since at the latest Act 2. Stuff just felt off.
Eh, I’m inclined to disagree on that front. Rushed to me would describe when story beats unfold before a point where they would be reasonably expected to, often at the expense of their resolutions, and it doesn’t seem accurate in this case. Overall Act 3 feels incredibly dense more than anything.
There's multilayered theatre stages and then directly pointing out there are 9 floors in an Arc where the concept of 9 people saving Wano is beaten into your head. Seems really weird not to put each straw hat on a different floor to start only for all hell to break loose when Roof Piece kicks off.
So I combed through it again, just to double check. From what I could find, the number of floors in Kaido’s castle aren’t mentioned by any characters before the raid begins, and the first layout of the interior is shown in chapter 993 where it’s listed as having 7 floors, not 9. However there’s about a dozen references to attacking with a left flank, a right flank, and central force well before the raid commences, and when shown from the top-down perspectives the characters are all entering the scene from the same places the back stages would be if you treat Onigashima like a giant theater. To top it off when there’s so many other references to theater concepts like Kaido’s divisions being named after theater/acting terms or characters like Orochi & Kanjuro comparing the events to an opera, it makes way more sense for the battle map to be treated more like a stage production rather than a tower.

Plus all evidence points to the “9 shadows” referring to the 9 Red Scabbards rather than the Straw Hats, so that‘s not really relevant to the fight layouts.
 
Eh, I’m inclined to disagree on that front. Rushed to me would describe when story beats unfold before a point where they would be reasonably expected to, often at the expense of their resolutions, and it doesn’t seem accurate in this case. Overall Act 3 feels incredibly dense more than anything.
It can also mean that stuff wasn't developed enough. Oda gives you a literal day count for how much time they has to the Raid, spends a few chapters with barely any time passing and then speeds up the passage of time. I feel like there honestly should have been more scenes of planning honestly because it feels like despite all that time they rushed in with no plan or very little of one. It feels like Oda was going to make things last way longer and then changed his mind.

and the first layout of the interior is shown in chapter 993 where it’s listed as having 7 floors, not 9.
Oh, you're right my mistake.
 
It can also mean that stuff wasn't developed enough. Oda gives you a literal day count for how much time they has to the Raid, spends a few chapters with barely any time passing and then speeds up the passage of time. I feel like there honestly should have been more scenes of planning honestly because it feels like despite all that time they rushed in with no plan or very little of one. It feels like Oda was going to make things last way longer and then changed his mind.


Oh, you're right my mistake.
They absolutely rushed in with little planning. It’s not like they could meticulously plan things out ahead of time, they already got their asses pulled out of that fire once before by Yasu’e. On top of that, Kin’emon has never been shown to be a strategic genius, even if dealing with the Straw Hats hadn’t shown him the futility of trying to make detailed plans.
By the point of the time jump, they had already set the foundation for their supplies for the raid, and the remaining time was to give a plausible span for boring stuff such as fixing the ships, distributing the weapons, or training to get done.
 
Count me in among those who think Kaido is KO'd, Oda has been laying it on super thick in the last 2 chapters:

- Both Kaido and Orochi were written to be ok fire in their zoan forms, and Orochi has been beheaded, which implies that Kaido will quickly follow.

- The direct juxtaposition of the wish balloons with Orochi's beheading moment, and now we get the same when Kaido gets ultra mega punched.

- The Onigashima island threat has been completely and utterly resolved.

- Kaido's flame clouds were written to disappear via Zunisha water right before the (final?) blow lands, symbolizing the end of his threat.

- Kaido's horn is broken, which brings to mind when Doffy's glasses broke in the Dressrosa climax. It's also interesting how it's broken on the side that Ace hit the Kaido statue on.

- Kaido's current fate not only mirrors Big Mom's (Yonko getting blasted underground), it also parallels his introduction and forms a bookend to his tenure on the series.

I'm %100 sure I missed some stuff too!
 
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It can also mean that stuff wasn't developed enough.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree I suppose. I don’t consider something not being fully developed and something to be rushed to be interchangeable concepts for the most part. For instance, scenes like Yasuie’s introduction and Onimaru stealing Shusui were clearly shaved down, and there would’ve been benefits to expanding those story beats, but as is they move the plot to a point that makes sense and their conclusions are satisfying.

When I think of rushed though, I think of Yamato’s introduction. While the series spent a lot of time establishing Momo and Kin’emon for several arcs, and two acts establishing Wano and its residents and their investment in the arc’s stakes, Yamato goes entirely unmentioned until only to suddenly appear a good chunk of the way into Act 3. At which point she becomes tied to a string of exposition dumps and a brief side quest involving her handcuffs just to try and give her the same kind of claim on Kaido that all the other characters have earned, and in my opinion doesn’t really succeed.
They absolutely rushed in with little planning. It’s not like they could meticulously plan things out ahead of time, they already got their asses pulled out of that fire once before by Yasu’e. On top of that, Kin’emon has never been shown to be a strategic genius, even if dealing with the Straw Hats hadn’t shown him the futility of trying to make detailed plans.
By the point of the time jump, they had already set the foundation for their supplies for the raid, and the remaining time was to give a plausible span for boring stuff such as fixing the ships, distributing the weapons, or training to get done.
That and in terms of writing it’s just not an economic use of page space to spend multiple chapters, or even a single chapter, expositing on a plan of attack when it’s not going to immediately relevant. Especially not in a format like weekly manga where a little bit of repetition is inevitable. It’s the same principle that heist movies the condense the planning stage by using it as voice-over when the heist is underway: since there won’t be any new information garnered until complications happen, the sooner you can cut down on the time between characters talking about doing something to actually doing it, the more room there is to develop the more exciting parts. And in Wano’s case, with having the concept of a spy mid-way through Act 2 means it makes more sense to introduce the plan, highlight the parts compromised by Kanjuro, and then introduce the adjusted plan at the same time right before the raid and let the audience infer that the first plan was drafted during the montage, rather than effectively have the same exact scene happen twice.

Also showing a period of calm with the preparation montage right before the beginning of the raid gives the moment when complications do arise a little more weight, and Kin’emon bungling his way through out-foxing Orochi is a great punchline.
 
When I think of rushed though, I think of Yamato’s introduction. While the series spent a lot of time establishing Momo and Kin’emon for several arcs, and two acts establishing Wano and its residents and their investment in the arc’s stakes, Yamato goes entirely unmentioned until only to suddenly appear a good chunk of the way into Act 3. At which point she becomes tied to a string of exposition dumps and a brief side quest involving her handcuffs just to try and give her the same kind of claim on Kaido that all the other characters have earned, and in my opinion doesn’t really succeed.
I think it could have been interesting if when we had Kaido in Onigashima scenes during act 2, they could have weaved in some lines that he was trying to break someone, like we saw he did to Kidd earlier. At the very least it would have set up that Kaido had some prisoner kept close that we the reader could see getting drawn in during the raid. Even could have Queen off hand say something related to the cuff when he forced Luffy and Hyogoro into the sumo death match.
 
I have to agree. I wish she was introduced through a cover story before the arc. Especially with the Ace cover story.
She probably didn't even exist conceptually until part-way through Wano. It would explain the supposedly rushed intro. That and her being set up for more shit down the line, though not sure what that would entail.
 
I love one piece fan-art so creative.
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