🤝 Community Omegaverse, Yaoi, and MPreg Fandom Discussion Thread - God help us all

[Drive-by Farts]

Is there a difference between the Fujo’s who stick to actual BL and yaoi (as in, Webtoons or manga that is literally BL as the genre) vs fandom shipper fujos? It seems like the fandom shipper ones are a lot more aggressively political.

I just can’t with the Southpark shipping. Those girlies need to get some actual hobbies ASAP.

 

[YWNBAM]

Am I the only one who notices whenever a character has an extremely poor relationship with one person of the opposite sex, fans start headcanoning the character as gay?

It applies to gay ships a lot. Especially with older media, where a male protagonist is portrayed spooked/oblivious towards his obsessive, annoying female love interest and acting more lively over some male rival. I think you can immediately think of ten examples like this, at least in anime.

This reminds me of the topic that was mentioned by one of the users here.

"Why despite straight people being a majority, gay shipping is heavily overrepresented?"

I believe it's a sign of a huge crisis in young opposite sex-attracted people, tightly entangled with self-identification and social expectations regarding dating/marriage.

Hell, I will just repost my old-ass post from the abandoned anti-fujoshi thread.

The way I see it, fujoshi and himedanshi are people who have deep anxieties about heterosexual relationships and, in particular, how their gender is being treated by the opposite one. Gender stereotypes, uncomfortable implications, biological attributes of their sex, etc. So instead of either reflecting on these feelings in some way or fixing the society that inforces such ideas, they take an easy way out and remove what in their mind is "the cause of the problem" from the equation, namely, whoever is representing their sex. And, boom, suddenly we have two girls/guys who are equal and don't have all of the aforementioned worries. And they can both be interesting, colorful characters, which would be *obviously* impossible if they were opposite sexes because of X, Y, Z (usually social/gender reasons). In their eyes, it's not as reprehensible if a female pervert squeezes another girl's breasts, and it's not as intimidating when a guy impregnates another one.

Basically, these heterosexual people idealize homosexuality on a subconscious level, seeing it as a more safe and liberating option in terms of relationships between partners. An escapist fantasy in an already escapist fantasy that is romance. They're trying to escape gender stereotypes, not realizing that they're so deeply embedded in their heads that they don't even notice them. Man, it's a real mystery why many of them end up trooning out later in life, right?

In fact, many feminist-alligned fujoshi may claim the same. The parts they are missing though is the fact that a) it's not a good thing, holy shit b) "gay romance/porn for straight people" doesn't solve any mentioned problems in straight romance/sexual media (no, just sabotaging and eradicating it doesn't count as a solution). A sign of some kind of mental sexual dysfunction, perhaps?

Excessive consumeristic escapism, waifu/husbando culture, yaoi/yuri, transgenderism.... I repeat it often, but this all feels heavily intertwined, wish I could put it into words better. It all comes from people wanting to put their minds away from the society's pressure and markets exploiting their basic instincts, leading to some very bizarre results. It's like witnessing something from horror evolution speculative fiction, except on the mental front.

 

[Jacques1194]

It applies to gay ships a lot. Especially with older media, where a male protagonist is portrayed spooked/oblivious towards his obsessive, annoying female love interest and acting more lively over some male rival. I think you can immediately think of ten examples like this, at least in anime.

This reminds me of the topic that was mentioned by one of the users here.

"Why despite straight people being a majority, gay shipping is heavily overrepresented?"

I believe it's a sign of a huge crisis in young opposite sex-attracted people, tightly entangled with self-identification and social expectations regarding dating/marriage.

I think there's also a lot of peer pressure on social media to where actual straight people would like shipping straight couples but dont want to upset the large "queer" part of fandoms and of course to appear progressive. For example, I noticed this one guy on South Park Twitter who claims to be a "cis, straight, white boy" and he loves Stan and Wendy's ship, but is always completely turned off by any other straight ship in the fandom. Hell, with the recent ship between Butters and Red, he made art of the two of them, but the twist was that he made Butters his transgender girl persona in Marjorine to make the ship "lesbian" and its like "I can tell this dude likes the ship but doesn't want to upset all the people who see Red as a lesbian".

On the topic of South Park I saw this tweet by this user who is ok with people shipping Stan with boys and Wendy, but don't you dare ever ship him with other girls.


What really gets me about people like this is that if someone said "It disturbs me seeing people ship Stan with boys" these same exact people would bombard the person with accusations of "homophobia" even if the person wasn't against actual gay ships. Also, I find it funny how this person is confused by people shipping Stan with Heidi when you can at least see the vision of them both being animal lovers, and yet this same exact person probably ships two same sex ships who have 0 chemistry together but loves it because "queer".

 

[Paper Machete]

I think it's NLOGs and NLOBs (?) that are very much into typical heterosexual dynamics but feel "threatened" by the idealized feminine if they're women or by the idealized masculine if they're boys. For them their escapist fantasies don't seem to work if they're reminded that they don't reach the "standard". Whatever that is perceived to be in context.

It's also why a lot of female leads in romances are so plain/average/quirky chungus or an odd mix of power fantasy (she's a badass warrior queen!) but also still not considered a typical pretty gorl but also the characters she romances are super hot for her because [vague internal characteristic]. You could say leaning heavily into M/M or F/F shipping is just an extreme version of that impulse.

If you have trouble noticing the pattern then just straight up change the pronouns in a lot of scenes in fanfic and it 1:1 works for a M/F ship.

 

[Chandelier]

The fujo who got into trouble with a bunch of black women by blaming them for her being posted here has some juicy updates. This is leviaanaa, the one who based her entire pregnancy around her favourite yaoi ship by projecting it, and therefore herself, on a character many headcanon as a trans man. She decided to go the 'shipping isn't activism' route after a fujo got jumped for promoting a genderbent MLM ship over women on International Women's Day. Yaoi could've taken a seat for that day, but no.

It is not activism, but you project your own pregnancy onto the character you deem as 'feminine' and then proceed to talk about 'pussy pain', on top of offering your pregnancy-related experiences so pooners can write trans male pregnancy better. I wish I was joking about all of this.

Spoiler: Feminism for me but not for thee

A casual reminder that she blocked black fans because she accused them of posting her fujo pregnancy fetish here. When they called her out, she privated, and then became public once the heat had died down. In fandom, that is called a 'Race Fail'. Context:

And back to the thread at hand:

When a notable professional gaming company had yaoi bait for Pride Month - there is a huge push to make this pairing canon and have Pride related merch for them - she responded to a lesbian that it's their 'brand' for including the MLM ship, but not the canon lesbian one.

She wasn't joking.

Spoiler: White hands typed this

Literally, white hands wrote this:

You'll see whiter crowds in a Jayvik convention than you will in a European country.

When Fortiche decided to dip into yaoi bait, something I posted on fully in the Arcane thread, she got some hits off this one:


Fortiche account is run by a fujo. They will respond to any Jayvik question, but will pointedly ignore any that asked about Mel or Ekko, who was not featured in their 'Spring Rebellion'. He is the entire reason for their little 'Only You' speech at the end. They could be seen liking posts demanding that they get a Pride skin.

"The folks in my life all saw romantic canon" - your Discord chat doesn't count.

They are canon every month, but also, we need to canonize them for Pride this year.

'They dgaf about antis' - yeah, it says a lot when they refuse to talk about female characters yet center a fanon MLM ship, while also ignoring the titular black characters that won their show awards. I wonder why a Vietnamese person would like that. This kind of attitude lead to the exclusion of female characters at merch events, as the main artists behind them were all fujos.

I can see why 'not obsessed with a fictional character' was not circled. She is naming her child after the male character she headcanons as pregnant.

I am happy to post you on the jumbotron - just not the one you wanted.

She's been having pregnancy problems, it seems. Worried about her appearance and all that.



Gosh, I wonder why they get such a bad rap -

oh.

On this TDOV, here is a tweet of her going up against a black Kween who committed heresy by saying a piece of pooner fanart was disgusting because the actual man was sucking on a roid clit.

---

In the Pitt fandom, an interviewer showed the actor for Robinavitch a spicy piece of fanart. Honestly, the whole thing looks creepy.

That's, uh, quite the mouth action you've got there.

---

To showcase the net change over MLM fics month over month, here are the stats from 2024-2026. Here's 2024:

2025:

2026:

The winners for the month were Hollanov with a whopping 7k fics, with Byler in second.

---

Lastly, this woman had a video out on why people enjoy Heated Rivalry, but not Bridgerton that will have a mixed race lesbian fronting an entire season:

 

[Taxes]

Fandom was a mistake. God help the autistic, artsy girls of the future. Good grief.

 

[Nightdancer]

Is there a difference between the Fujo’s who stick to actual BL and yaoi (as in, Webtoons or manga that is literally BL as the genre) vs fandom shipper fujos? It seems like the fandom shipper ones are a lot more aggressively political.

For sure. I think part of it is that the BL genre works have one main couple as the focus. Fandom comes with all sorts of fights as to who is gay/straight/etc., who belongs with who, ship wars and all that retarded stuff. Politicizing it often stems from trying to find a reason that you can't criticize their opinion over, or else you're [x]-ist/phobic et cetera. Hence bs like "shipping is activism", because they're trying to fit a triangle (yaoislop) in the square hole (games/shows/movies that are about other things entirely)
The BL-only fujos stay in their lane because there's less to fight about and no shortage of works tailored to each preference. The fandom fujos are part of said fandom first, and fujos second (if you can imagine that).

 

[Chandelier]

ColeyDoesThings posted a video on the AO3 shutdown that happened earlier in March. In this video, you'll find out only 0.4% of its funds are spent on legal advocacy. It only moved out of beta yesterday.

These were some of the tweets featured in the video.

Yes, people actually talk about killing themselves if they don't gain access to AO3. It's a very common thing.

Spoiler: 41% complete

Here's the original tweet worrying about it getting banned.

"CALL YOUR US REPRESENTATIVE TO PROTECT FANFIC!"



Literally crying, pissing, shitting themselves:

There was outrage over the New York article referencing a fanfic in their article:

Fujos threatening to go Dick Cheney for hockey yaoi.

Spoiler: How dare you.

Original tweet here. Much umbrage about a fic being used off-site when it still falls under fair use.

They don't want normies to know.

---

On The Pitt, another actress, an Indian one, left. They made it about the frog-eyed white man instead.


The Pitt is filled with POC queers. Fujos go for the white/Jew pairing.

---

A self-hating woman gets outed as a self-hating woman. Yes, she's a Byler fan.

 

[Jacques1194]

These chicks don't like men because they're either:
- gay
- have had horrible past experiences w/ them
- have fallen for the leftist-SJW scheme/staunch misandrists
- all of the above

It doesn't matter if the character canonically gets with a man, is still straight after their trauma, or has had bad experiences with women, too. They'll just call it comphet or say she's repressed or that she's actually bi. But GOD FORBID if you ever take a gay character (or one that is actually bi) & put them in a hetero ship! Prepare to be carpetbombed.

Sorry for double posting you but I wanted to add more to this. Another thing I've noticed is that the character doesn't even have to show any attraction to woman but their personality, and what they like are also seen as "queer coded". Red was another character from South Park that a lot of online fans claim is a lesbian. Their reasoning? She has a Dark Angel and Swashbuckler skin in the mobile game Phone Destroyer and because those two skins have "queer" history to it, that makes her lesbian coded.

First off, their argument for Dark Angels is because a guy in the 1800s wrote a poem where he made Dark Angels a symbol of his homosexuality. I really doubt the developers looked at this dude's poem and thought "Give this character a Dark Angel skin because shes gay". Secondly, Dark Angels represent darkness, evil, a rebel, etc. They clearly made this skin to be a evil counterpart to Wendy's angel skin.

Swashbuckler is because...some of them can be butch and tomboys. That's literally it. It goes back into what many people pointed out with both BL and GL fans and how its ok for them to promote stereotypes to "queer code" characters but god forbid you did the exact same thing to not prove a character isn't queer.

 

[brooky]

think there's also a lot of peer pressure on social media to where actual straight people would like shipping straight couples but dont want to upset the large "queer" part of fandoms and of course to appear progressive.

It really depends on the fandom. Brooklyn 99 had a canon hetero ship that was also the most popular ship in the fandom. Also the drama and nonsense gets worse the more popular a fandom is. Such is life.

I think the reason South Park shippers are especially fucking weird is that, uh, they're shipping fucking South Park characters.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I think the reason South Park shippers are especially fucking weird is that, uh, they're shipping fucking South Park characters.

South Park shippers are kind of the female version of Sonic autists. They latched onto something early, and now that fandom is the lens they're going to use on everything forever.

And also it's easy to draw.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

Can a fujo expert please explain to me why these women go on huge rants justifying their ship, or some type of discourse while yuri-rotted mtfs just... don't care at all? Is it a male vs female sexuality thing? Where even males will admit that they just like porn, while women will say their yaoi is actually more important and gay advocacy because...reasons?

Hell, I don't even think female fans of yuri care that much about it to fight over ships or whatever. Maybe this is just a heterosexual woman phenomenon? Like the obvious explanation I can think of is "because Tumblr" but I still have no idea why this even began in the first place.

 

[Taxes]

Can a fujo expert please explain to me why these women go on huge rants justifying their ship, or some type of discourse while yuri-rotted mtfs just... don't care at all? Is it a male vs female sexuality thing? Where even males will admit that they just like porn, while women will say their yaoi is actually more important and gay advocacy because...reasons?

Hell, I don't even think female fans of yuri care that much about it to fight over ships or whatever. Maybe this is just a heterosexual woman phenomenon? Like the obvious explanation I can think of is "because Tumblr" but I still have no idea why this even began in the first place.

You're pretty spot on!

Simple answer:
They are mentally ill women.

Longer answer:
1) They are heterosexual women who get off to two men fucking. They are not interested in the female characters, so do not write about them. They are often more misogynistic than regular hetero women who insert themselves inplace of the female characters. Misognistic women hate themselves, but feel superior to other women & look for any chance to talk over them.

2.A) They don't understand typical gay men because they are neither gay nor men. However, since they both get off to the same thing, these women feel like they owe them something/feel a kinship to them/think they can relate.

2.B) Most straight men know their "lesbian" porn was made by men FOR men. No actual woman functions or thinks like this. They are ok with this because wgaf, it isn't real. These broads, not so. More exposure to gay lifestyle --> the kick they feel like they "belong." They refuse to see yaoi as straight women porn, fool themselves into thinking this is how gay dudes really are.

3.A) For as "sex-positive" as their progresshit places claim to be, the women are still expected to be more sexually restrained. In fact, it is still "taboo" & "problematic" to objectify gay men for them. The more 'self-aware' fujos try to NLOG themselves away from that label through nonbinary & tranny labels. Use their ships as justification.

3.B) If they remain she/her to prove its "totally not a fetish, guys!" & "I'm actually not misogynistic!", they sperg/rant about their ship to justify it to everyone else (but moreso, themselves). Easiest way to do that is pull the "representation! advocacy! on the right side of history!" slacktivism card. No one can call them out less they be labelled a 'bigot'.

4) Deep, unaddressed mental illness & growing up on neuroticism promoting echo chambers (like Tumblr) makes it so that they are raised to explain everything they do. Might be fear of cancellation, to "educate" the masses, or just for attention.

It All Boils Down To:
extreme female socialization + untreated mental issues + exposure to leftist politics/worldview + too much time online = fujo.

 

[Paper Machete]

I mostly chalk it down to the "SJW-ification" of fandom. Largely driven by how public fandom behavior became because the homogenization of social media. Suddenly, outsiders can notice you and you feel like you must justify yourself to them.

Old school fujos was a completely different vibe with a lot of them being loud and proud about the fact they were not writing about or for gay/bi men and that the real life stuff was gross and icky. Everything is cute and fun though when it's your animu bishies being all pretty and shiet though.

There also used to be silly stuff that was openly lampshaded and memed like the "height rule" which stated that the taller one was always the top regardless of other characteristics.

(To get the vibe for this you basically have to find ancient LiveJournals. Like I did while rifling through old drama lmao.)

Basically a lot of people in fandom feel pressure (even if it's stoopid) to appear to be doing the right things for the right reasons. It'll be interesting to see how things shift if they do at all.

 

[Among Us Gaming]

Can a fujo expert please explain to me why these women go on huge rants justifying their ship, or some type of discourse while yuri-rotted mtfs just... don't care at all?

Your conception is wrong.
Troons do go on rants to justify their fetish, since of course, being a troon  is the fetish. Fujos, much like troons, need the justification, because the alternative, that they are just gross fetishists/freaks, is of course, intolerable.

 

[YWNBAM]

Can a fujo expert please explain to me why these women go on huge rants justifying their ship, or some type of discourse while yuri-rotted mtfs just... don't care at all?

I have seen enough 4chan yuricucked types who are pretty obsessed with yuri ships. They perfectly mirror the fujos by having flame wars over the fact the ever so obvious yuri-bait animu didn't end with main underage bestie girlfriends making out, or how a filthy male dared to have any interesting interaction with one of them, not even talking about canon straight ship for one of the girls. And there's also sort of misandry involved? They nitpick the guy characters the most, calling them a self-insert, ugly or just inferior/boring compared to female characters. Some troon the guys out because muh gender bend yuri. There is a feud between yuricucks vs self-insert bros, the famous meme about comparing BBC fetishists and yuri fans probably comes from that. Touhou Project might be the biggest, most toxic, deranged fandom example of such fans.

The most hilarious inversion between two cultures is probably how yuricucks approach their identity VS fujos. A female fay fetishist will claim it proves how qweeer and non-conforming she is compared to boring hetslop str8 wahmen, while a male gay fetishist will boast it actually makes him the straightest man alive and calls any guy who ever dares to like a straight ship a faggot/cuck.

Cut to the same fetishist in a few years putting on a dress and crying about toxic masculinity.

Idk why yurifans have a reputation of being less autistic about shipping than fujos. Perhaps that's because of the whole idea that all men just need porn art and aren't interested in romantic stuff. But the amount of retarded anime, manga and fanfiction where it's just girls doing whatever with constant winks and implications begs to differ.

I don't even think female fans of yuri care that much about it to fight over ships or whatever.

Aside from the virtue-signaling ones, who ship lesbian ships just to get them out of the way of their actual, favourite gay ships. The majority of himejoshi who shipped UrarakaXToga probably fits the description. I have a suspicion some especially sjw-adjacent himedanshi may use a similar tactic.

 

[Jacques1194]

I think the reason South Park shippers are especially fucking weird is that, uh, they're shipping fucking South Park characters.

It doesn't help that Matt and Trey made an extremely popular yaoi ship in Tweek and Craig canon, now these fans truly believe if they aggressively make a lot of yaoi art for Stan and Kyle or Kenny and Butters that they'll make them both canon as well. I think what I found crazy about fujos is that they argue that some of the stuff they post is all in good fun but half the time it genuinely feels like they actually believe the stuff they say. Example, those Twitter fans who made the claim that Matt and Trey should make Stan and Kyle canon to stick it to the Duff brothers for not making Byler canon.

Hell, I don't even think female fans of yuri care that much about it to fight over ships or whatever. Maybe this is just a heterosexual woman phenomenon? Like the obvious explanation I can think of is "because Tumblr" but I still have no idea why this even began in the first place.

I've seen some of them justifying their ships for the exact same reason fujos do and claiming its to add "rep" and trust me when I say that I've seen it on South Park Twitter where some people get angry if you ship Heidi Turner with one of the boy characters because they see her as a lesbian. Doesn't matter if Heidi never showed interest in girls, these women have completely convinced themselves she is one because of a poor relationship she had with Cartman. Also, this strange belief that her hat looks like the lesbian pride flag colors when I dont see it. Hell, even if it was a similar color scheme, do these people seriously believe Matt and Trey purposely put hints into their show to do what exactly? Like they think its some kind of game?

 

[Chandelier]

It seems there really is a running trend about cucking black women for white men. This time it's in AKOTSK, with the Dunk/Aerion pairing. Tanselle is the black woman who designed Duncan's shield.

The OP deleted the threads, but this response remains:


Here's her AO3.

 

[brooky]

It seems there really is a running trend about cucking black women for white men.

Lmao that's been happening since the beginning of fandoms.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

Idk why yurifans have a reputation of being less autistic about shipping than fujos. Perhaps that's because of the whole idea that all men just need porn art and aren't interested in romantic stuff. But the amount of retarded anime, manga and fanfiction where it's just girls doing whatever with constant winks and implications begs to differ.

To be fair, I don't pay super close attention to 4chan and have had the fortune to not encounter deranged yurifans. Well, at least, that I know of. Maybe because the fandoms I used to be in were more "female"?

But maybe it's because the dynamic is sneakier, because while fujoshis put gay men on this weird pedestal while apologizing for the sin of being a straight women, it does seem like mtfs skip that step and just go "I'm a lesbian now, women must date me." (And when that doesn't work, crash out or go gay/join the transbian polycule.)

I'll have to research the himedanshi to trans pipeline more.