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There's so much news about North Korea right now and what Un is doing, I got a suggestion for a NK megathread, so here it is. Post the world's greatest nation's antics here. I'm merging a few of the more recent threads to continue discussion.



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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/south-korea-planning-war-decapitation-132232777.html

South Korean President Moon Jae-in has pushed for a new plan for a rapid war with North Korea and an overhaul of the country's defense industry to overwhelm and crush the North's government, the South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo reported Tuesday.

Moon took office in May promising to attempt to engage diplomatically with North Korea and seek peace, but in the months since, the North has provoked the international community with missile tests at a blistering pace.

For some time, South Korea has been training a "decapitation force," reportedly with the help of the US Navy's SEAL Team 6, but now an increasingly bold North Korea may demand quicker action.

South Korea's new plan identifies more than 1,000 targets for precision missile fires and sites for marines to drop in and quickly kill North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the paper reported.

The plan represents a more independent version of South Korea's current plan, which relies on support from US aircraft carriers. As it stands, no major military commander recommends military action against North Korea, which has a staggering array of conventional — and potentially nuclear — weapons pointed at Seoul, where 26 million call home.

But South Korea's new plan to quickly and decisively dominate the North relies on reforming the defense-acquisition process and cutting out wasteful spending to wield the full might of its economic dominance against Pyongyang, according to the report. For that reason, don't expect the plan to take effect anytime soon.
 
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Teenage boy caught watching pornography exiled to countryside with family

Daily NK has become aware that North Korea is stepping up punishments and intensifying a crackdown based on the “anti-reactionary thought law” adopted at the end of last year. The law seems to have strengthened the authorities’ control over citizens in the country.

According to a source in North Pyongan Province, a teenage boy who was caught watching pornography at his home in Sinuiju earlier this month has been exiled to the countryside along with his parents.

The teenager was watching a pornographic video late at night when his parents were not at home. He was caught during a surprise inspection by a task force created to monitor “deviant” behavior.

According to the explanatory material for the “anti-reactionary thought law” obtained exclusively by Daily NK, Article 29 of the law calls for sentences of five to 15 years of correctional labor for consumption or possession of pornographic videos or books, photos or drawings that “preach superstition.” Individuals who produce, import or distribute such materials may get life sentences of correctional labor or even the death penalty, depending on the quantity of the material.

However, it appears that because the “anti-reactionary thought law” does not prescribe punishment regulations for adolescents, the punishment was set to deportation instead of correctional labor.

Articles 34-38 of the law stipulate fines of KPW 100,000 to 200,000 if a reactionary thought crime occurs due to the irresponsible education of children and orders the entire family to move to the countryside as punishment for the parents.

For someone who lives in one of the larger cities in North Korea, being deported to the provinces is considered quite a heavy sentence as these individuals will not only lose their economic base but also become politically stigmatized.

As a result, some of the people aware of the incident questioned whether this punishment was too severe for a teenager.

“The crackdown and punishments are likely to intensify for the time being given that the ‘anti-reactionary thought law’ is still in the early stage of implementation,” the source said.

“Moreover, Kim Jong Un stated that ‘non-socialism is a malignant tumor that hinders unity’ and declared a ‘more intensive struggle against the non-socialist phenomenon’ at the Second Plenary Meeting of the Eighth Central Committee of the Workers’ Party on Feb. 8,” he added.

Daily NK is aware that the principal of the school attended by the teenage boy also received the “revolutionary punishment” of unpaid labor.

The principal was punished because articles 34-38 of the act stipulates “punishments of unpaid labor, demotion, dismissal, or forced resignation if a reactionary thought crime occurs due to the failure to control and educate students on how to abide by the law.”

Daily NK understands, however, that the principal was not demoted or dismissed.

Meanwhile, the South Korean National Intelligence Service explained in a report to South Korea’s National Assembly Intelligence Committee on Feb. 16 that North Korea has strengthened punishments in the “anti-reactionary thought law” by prescribing the maximum punishment of death penalty for the import and distribution of South Korean video materials.


*Translated by Vilde Olaussen
Sad this shit still happens. That kid's only hope now is to defect.
 
Sad this shit still happens. That kid's only hope now is to defect.
Yeah and if he does it alone he then has the weight on his shoulders for the rest of his life knowing his defection likely means his immediate and extended family are put in a prison camp and possibly worked to death, all because he decided to have a tug.
 
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Yeah and if he does it alone he then has the weight on his shoulders for the rest of his life knowing his defection likely means his immediate and extended family are put in a prison camp and possibly worked to death, all because he decided to have a tug.
That is the sad part of all this. This is not a country anyone should acknowledge on a global scale.
 
Does anyone else find it really weird that we keep seeing reports of Kim Jong Un's death, and then a week later another story comes out where he's alive, and the news never really addresses that somewhat glaring discrepancy? I swear that he's "died" like three times now; I feel like I'm stuck in some kind of Mandela Effect loop.
 
An interesting article. Note the numbers of Chinese tourists compared to tourists from other countries.

The Pandemic and North Korea’s Tourism Industry: Another Shock for the Regime​

Just when its numbers were booming, and it had become a solid source of foreign currency for the regime, the COVID-19 pandemic brought the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea’s (DPRK) growing tourism industry to a halt on January 21, 2020 as the country closed its borders to the world. This might have caused the biggest-ever shock to the sector, which the Kim dynasty has assiduously developed over the last four decades, causing a loss of roughly $175 million and forcing the regime to resort to illicit activities to make up for the losses.

The DPRK’s Tourism Industry in Context

Under Kim Il Sung, North Korea began developing the tourism sector in the 1980s, when it established the DPRK National Tourism Administration (NTA) and joined the United Nations World Tourism Organization (UNWTO).[1] Later, coinciding with the administration of progressive President Kim Dae-jung in South Korea, Kim Jong Il opened Mt. Kumgang to South Korean visitors. It became a flagship project, seeing the arrival of almost two million South Korean tourists between 1998 and 2008.[2] Additionally, in 2001, North Korea established formal ties with Spain and sent a diplomatic mission to Madrid, where the UNWTO is headquartered, to further engage with the organization and learn from its partners.[3]

Yangdok Hot Spring Cultural Recreation Center (Source: KCNA)
In 2013, two years after succeeding his father, Kim Jong Un declared a new policy of byungjin, which advocated for the parallel development of the country’s economy and nuclear weapons program. In that spirit, the regime once again sought to boost inbound tourism, this time with a well-developed strategy. Investment in infrastructure is one of its main pillars, as the last decade has seen the opening of the Masikryong Ski Resort and hotel complex and the Yangdok Hot Spring Cultural Recreation Center, as well as the rapid development the Wonsan-Kalma Coastal Tourist Zone (Area), although that project remains unfinished.[4]

Training tourism professionals is another area of focus, which the regime aims to do at the Pyongyang Tourism College, inaugurated in 2014.[5] In addition, North Korean diplomats continuously engage with the UNWTO and are at the forefront of the regime’s efforts to attract an increasing number of tourists, mainly from China but also from the West.[6] For that purpose, besides the more typical tours to national landmarks like Panmunjom, Kaesong or Nampho (Nampo), North Korea has begun to offer unorthodox activities such as participation in the Pyongyang Marathon or surfing tours.[7] It has even recently started investing in medical tourism, having inaugurated the Treatment Tourism Exchange Corporation in 2019 to oversee health clinics in its tourism facilities.[8](Jesus. I can't even imagine anyone wanting to have their medical stuff done in North Korea. I sure as hell wouldn't. - JS)

The timing of these developments is not arbitrary. First, tourism is one of the few sectors left untouched—for now—by the UN sanctions regime. Second, Pyongyang wants to capitalize on the boom in tourism to East Asia, which has seen an exponential increase in the number of inbound tourists over the last several years.[9] North Korea now has a unique opportunity to consolidate tourism as a dependable and stable source of foreign currency, a commodity that is widely in demand but the regime struggles to obtain due to the sanctions restricting its exports.[10] The move also supports North Korea’s goal to reduce its economic dependence on China, which has so far hampered the accomplishment of the Juche aspiration of self-reliance.[11]

Assessing the Dynamics of the North Korean Tourism Industry Between 2014 and 2019

The push given by Kim Jong Un to the tourism industry in North Korea since 2013 has caused its income to rise significantly. In the absence of official statistics, it is only possible to assess this growth with the use of estimates published by specialized institutions and media sources; and, while their reliability is probably far from absolute, they are one of the few instruments available to understand the extent to which North Korea’s tourism strategy is working. An analysis of those data suggests that tourism revenues increased approximately 400 percent between 2014 and 2019, meaning the industry had indeed become a solid source of revenue and foreign currency for the regime up until the country closed its borders to international travelers in January 2020.

In 2015, various media reports echoed the Korea Maritime Institute (KMI) estimates that North Korea had earned between $30.6 million and $43.6 million from tourism in 2014, and that as many as 100,000 foreigners (95,000 Chinese and 5,000 “Westerners”) visited the country that year.[12] KMI did not offer more data until 2018, when it indicated North Korean tourism had been generating as much as $44 million yearly.[13] Since that study came out in April 2018, the $44 million figure is only valid up to 2017.

The Bank of Korea (BOK) also publishes annual estimates of the growth of North Korea’s gross domestic product (GDP), analyzing each part of the country’s economy, including the services sector, which encompasses the tourism industry.[14] Thus, it is possible to assess the increase of income generated by tourism between 2014 and 2017 by pairing it with the growth of the services sector during those years. Taking the 2017 revenue figure of $44 million from inbound tourism as a baseline and using the annual percentage growth of the services sector provided by the BOK, it is possible to trace back that figure until 2014. The results can be seen in the table below.

Table 1. Estimated Income from Tourism Based on the Annual Growth of the DPRK’s Services Sector[15]

Those figures are consistent with the data reported by KMI for the year 2014, as the figure of $43.2 million falls within the range of $30.6 million and $43.6 million. This suggests a small but steady growth of tourism revenues during the early years of Kim Jong Un’s reign.

In 2018, the North Korean tourism authorities reported a record-high of 200,000 foreign visitors who entered the country that year.[16] There are, however, no figures on the income those visitors generated for the regime; but data provided by NK News indicated at least 350,000 Chinese tourists visited the country in 2019, generating as much as $175 million in earnings from tourism that year.[17] The figure seems credible, reflecting the North Korean government’s decision in 2019 to impose a limit of 1,000 Chinese tourist entries per day (hence 365,000 per year). This suggests that either their number was already close to or had surpassed that threshold, and that each tourist generated a revenue of approximately $500 per trip, on average, for the regime.[18] The websites of several Chinese travel agencies and their offers confirm the credibility of that figure.[19]

If each Chinese tourist spent roughly $500 per trip, this suggests a slight increase in individual tourist expenses in North Korea since 2014, when each of the 100,000 visitors would have had to spend an average of around $430 to reach the estimated income of $43,200,000 of that year. While the exact number of visitors is not available for 2015-2017, if the total amount of visitors to North Korea grew commensurate with the overall growth of the sector as a whole, then even 200,000 visitors in 2018 at an average of $500 per trip means North Korea would have earned close to $100 million from tourism that year. With these data, the following table offers a fuller picture of the evolution of the tourism sector between 2014 and 2019:

Table 2. Estimated Income per Number of Foreign Tourists[20]

To be clear, the data portrayed are rough but not definitive estimates generated from the little information that has made it to the public. However, the sudden increase in income in 2018 is consistent with the developments of that year, when Kim Jong Un participated in a series of international summits with then-US President Donald Trump, South Korean President Moon Jae-in, and Chinese President Xi Jinping, marking an unprecedented diplomatic opening of the country. This coincided with China lifting in 2018 two temporary bans it had previously imposed on tourism to North Korea, dramatically increasing tourist numbers. The international engagement persisted in 2019, as Kim Jong Un continued to engage with foreign leaders—he met again with Trump in Hanoi in February and visited Russian President Vladimir Putin in Vladivostok in April—and the Chinese government instructed its tourism agencies to increase the number of visitors to North Korea.[21] As a result, income from tourism continued to grow in 2019, peaking at approximately $175 million.[22]

This experience suggests that the regime’s plan to earn growing sums of money from tourism has so far been fruitful with one important caveat: The industry is too dependent on Kim Jong Un’s international image and especially on the Chinese government’s willingness to promote tourism to North Korea, which contradicts the North’s objective to be more independent of its neighbor. Hence, it will be in North Korea’s interest to target tourists from other nations to consolidate these numbers in the long term.(It also didn't help when a North Korean soldier shot and killed a South Korean tourist at the Mt. Kumgang resort some years back. South Korean tourism to NK pretty much dried up after that. - JS)

Loss of Income in 2020

Following a steady growth of tourism revenue since 2014 and having seemingly reached its maximum capacity to host tourists—especially from China—the North Korean regime could reasonably expect that 2020 would be another profitable year for tourism. But then the pandemic struck, and on January 21, North Korea closed its borders and halted all travel to prevent the spread of COVID-19, and has not announced plans to open again. Based on the trends of the number of Chinese tourists per year, it is reasonable to suggest that under normal conditions, the country would have received 350,000 Chinese tourists (and roughly 5,000 non-Chinese visitors), providing the North Korean government with a similar income last year as it made in 2019. Hence, it is relatively safe to assume that in 2020 the regime was prevented from bringing in at least $175 million, slightly under one percent of its GDP.

This might not seem like a very significant amount. But it is around the same income the regime generated in 2017 from illicit exports to circumvent sanctions, and just slightly less than what North Korean workers earned in Russia, China and elsewhere in 2019. And those activities and the income that they generate are important for the survival of the regime.

Conclusion

The halt to tourism has administered a shock to the North Korean economy. After years of developing infrastructure, it will now take longer than expected for the country to reach the return on investment on those projects, and the regime will most likely have trouble paying salaries of professionals in the tourism sector; in 2020, they received virtually no earnings from their jobs and thus might be facing unemployment, which appears to have risen last year.[23]

Unless the UN decides to extend the scope of its sanctions regime to include tourism on the list of forbidden activities, tourism will most likely rebound once the pandemic is controlled internationally and North Korea can reopen its borders to the outside world. This will probably be no earlier than in mid- or late-2022, given the country’s poor health care system and because it has not yet announced plans to begin inoculating its population.

Under an optimistic scenario, North Korea’s tourism industry could be fully operative again by 2023 and reach the level of tourism it saw in 2019. This assumes, of course, that either China keeps encouraging its nationals to visit the country or that North Korea manages to attract a much higher number of tourists from other states. Until then, North Korea can be expected to make up for its losses by trying to increase illicit activities like the export of sanctioned commodities, arms trafficking and cybertheft to continue financing itself, as a recent UN Panel of Experts Report suggested.(Hey, maybe they'll start selling good-quality, fully-automatic AK-47s here, smuggle them in. Could happen. At the right price, you know a lot of people would be down for one or more. - JS)


 
An interesting article. Note the numbers of Chinese tourists compared to tourists from other countries.

The Pandemic and North Korea’s Tourism Industry: Another Shock for the Regime​

Just when its numbers were booming, and it had become a solid source of foreign currency for the regime, the COVID-19 pandemic brought the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea’s (DPRK) growing tourism industry to a halt on January 21, 2020 as the country closed its borders to the world. This might have caused the biggest-ever shock to the sector, which the Kim dynasty has assiduously developed over the last four decades, causing a loss of roughly $175 million and forcing the regime to resort to illicit activities to make up for the losses.

The DPRK’s Tourism Industry in Context

Under Kim Il Sung, North Korea began developing the tourism sector in the 1980s, when it established the DPRK National Tourism Administration (NTA) and joined the United Nations World Tourism Organization (UNWTO).[1] Later, coinciding with the administration of progressive President Kim Dae-jung in South Korea, Kim Jong Il opened Mt. Kumgang to South Korean visitors. It became a flagship project, seeing the arrival of almost two million South Korean tourists between 1998 and 2008.[2] Additionally, in 2001, North Korea established formal ties with Spain and sent a diplomatic mission to Madrid, where the UNWTO is headquartered, to further engage with the organization and learn from its partners.[3]

Yangdok Hot Spring Cultural Recreation Center (Source: KCNA)
In 2013, two years after succeeding his father, Kim Jong Un declared a new policy of byungjin, which advocated for the parallel development of the country’s economy and nuclear weapons program. In that spirit, the regime once again sought to boost inbound tourism, this time with a well-developed strategy. Investment in infrastructure is one of its main pillars, as the last decade has seen the opening of the Masikryong Ski Resort and hotel complex and the Yangdok Hot Spring Cultural Recreation Center, as well as the rapid development the Wonsan-Kalma Coastal Tourist Zone (Area), although that project remains unfinished.[4]

Training tourism professionals is another area of focus, which the regime aims to do at the Pyongyang Tourism College, inaugurated in 2014.[5] In addition, North Korean diplomats continuously engage with the UNWTO and are at the forefront of the regime’s efforts to attract an increasing number of tourists, mainly from China but also from the West.[6] For that purpose, besides the more typical tours to national landmarks like Panmunjom, Kaesong or Nampho (Nampo), North Korea has begun to offer unorthodox activities such as participation in the Pyongyang Marathon or surfing tours.[7] It has even recently started investing in medical tourism, having inaugurated the Treatment Tourism Exchange Corporation in 2019 to oversee health clinics in its tourism facilities.[8](Jesus. I can't even imagine anyone wanting to have their medical stuff done in North Korea. I sure as hell wouldn't. - JS)

The timing of these developments is not arbitrary. First, tourism is one of the few sectors left untouched—for now—by the UN sanctions regime. Second, Pyongyang wants to capitalize on the boom in tourism to East Asia, which has seen an exponential increase in the number of inbound tourists over the last several years.[9] North Korea now has a unique opportunity to consolidate tourism as a dependable and stable source of foreign currency, a commodity that is widely in demand but the regime struggles to obtain due to the sanctions restricting its exports.[10] The move also supports North Korea’s goal to reduce its economic dependence on China, which has so far hampered the accomplishment of the Juche aspiration of self-reliance.[11]

Assessing the Dynamics of the North Korean Tourism Industry Between 2014 and 2019

The push given by Kim Jong Un to the tourism industry in North Korea since 2013 has caused its income to rise significantly. In the absence of official statistics, it is only possible to assess this growth with the use of estimates published by specialized institutions and media sources; and, while their reliability is probably far from absolute, they are one of the few instruments available to understand the extent to which North Korea’s tourism strategy is working. An analysis of those data suggests that tourism revenues increased approximately 400 percent between 2014 and 2019, meaning the industry had indeed become a solid source of revenue and foreign currency for the regime up until the country closed its borders to international travelers in January 2020.

In 2015, various media reports echoed the Korea Maritime Institute (KMI) estimates that North Korea had earned between $30.6 million and $43.6 million from tourism in 2014, and that as many as 100,000 foreigners (95,000 Chinese and 5,000 “Westerners”) visited the country that year.[12] KMI did not offer more data until 2018, when it indicated North Korean tourism had been generating as much as $44 million yearly.[13] Since that study came out in April 2018, the $44 million figure is only valid up to 2017.

The Bank of Korea (BOK) also publishes annual estimates of the growth of North Korea’s gross domestic product (GDP), analyzing each part of the country’s economy, including the services sector, which encompasses the tourism industry.[14] Thus, it is possible to assess the increase of income generated by tourism between 2014 and 2017 by pairing it with the growth of the services sector during those years. Taking the 2017 revenue figure of $44 million from inbound tourism as a baseline and using the annual percentage growth of the services sector provided by the BOK, it is possible to trace back that figure until 2014. The results can be seen in the table below.

Table 1. Estimated Income from Tourism Based on the Annual Growth of the DPRK’s Services Sector[15]

Those figures are consistent with the data reported by KMI for the year 2014, as the figure of $43.2 million falls within the range of $30.6 million and $43.6 million. This suggests a small but steady growth of tourism revenues during the early years of Kim Jong Un’s reign.

In 2018, the North Korean tourism authorities reported a record-high of 200,000 foreign visitors who entered the country that year.[16] There are, however, no figures on the income those visitors generated for the regime; but data provided by NK News indicated at least 350,000 Chinese tourists visited the country in 2019, generating as much as $175 million in earnings from tourism that year.[17] The figure seems credible, reflecting the North Korean government’s decision in 2019 to impose a limit of 1,000 Chinese tourist entries per day (hence 365,000 per year). This suggests that either their number was already close to or had surpassed that threshold, and that each tourist generated a revenue of approximately $500 per trip, on average, for the regime.[18] The websites of several Chinese travel agencies and their offers confirm the credibility of that figure.[19]

If each Chinese tourist spent roughly $500 per trip, this suggests a slight increase in individual tourist expenses in North Korea since 2014, when each of the 100,000 visitors would have had to spend an average of around $430 to reach the estimated income of $43,200,000 of that year. While the exact number of visitors is not available for 2015-2017, if the total amount of visitors to North Korea grew commensurate with the overall growth of the sector as a whole, then even 200,000 visitors in 2018 at an average of $500 per trip means North Korea would have earned close to $100 million from tourism that year. With these data, the following table offers a fuller picture of the evolution of the tourism sector between 2014 and 2019:

Table 2. Estimated Income per Number of Foreign Tourists[20]

To be clear, the data portrayed are rough but not definitive estimates generated from the little information that has made it to the public. However, the sudden increase in income in 2018 is consistent with the developments of that year, when Kim Jong Un participated in a series of international summits with then-US President Donald Trump, South Korean President Moon Jae-in, and Chinese President Xi Jinping, marking an unprecedented diplomatic opening of the country. This coincided with China lifting in 2018 two temporary bans it had previously imposed on tourism to North Korea, dramatically increasing tourist numbers. The international engagement persisted in 2019, as Kim Jong Un continued to engage with foreign leaders—he met again with Trump in Hanoi in February and visited Russian President Vladimir Putin in Vladivostok in April—and the Chinese government instructed its tourism agencies to increase the number of visitors to North Korea.[21] As a result, income from tourism continued to grow in 2019, peaking at approximately $175 million.[22]

This experience suggests that the regime’s plan to earn growing sums of money from tourism has so far been fruitful with one important caveat: The industry is too dependent on Kim Jong Un’s international image and especially on the Chinese government’s willingness to promote tourism to North Korea, which contradicts the North’s objective to be more independent of its neighbor. Hence, it will be in North Korea’s interest to target tourists from other nations to consolidate these numbers in the long term.(It also didn't help when a North Korean soldier shot and killed a South Korean tourist at the Mt. Kumgang resort some years back. South Korean tourism to NK pretty much dried up after that. - JS)

Loss of Income in 2020

Following a steady growth of tourism revenue since 2014 and having seemingly reached its maximum capacity to host tourists—especially from China—the North Korean regime could reasonably expect that 2020 would be another profitable year for tourism. But then the pandemic struck, and on January 21, North Korea closed its borders and halted all travel to prevent the spread of COVID-19, and has not announced plans to open again. Based on the trends of the number of Chinese tourists per year, it is reasonable to suggest that under normal conditions, the country would have received 350,000 Chinese tourists (and roughly 5,000 non-Chinese visitors), providing the North Korean government with a similar income last year as it made in 2019. Hence, it is relatively safe to assume that in 2020 the regime was prevented from bringing in at least $175 million, slightly under one percent of its GDP.

This might not seem like a very significant amount. But it is around the same income the regime generated in 2017 from illicit exports to circumvent sanctions, and just slightly less than what North Korean workers earned in Russia, China and elsewhere in 2019. And those activities and the income that they generate are important for the survival of the regime.

Conclusion

The halt to tourism has administered a shock to the North Korean economy. After years of developing infrastructure, it will now take longer than expected for the country to reach the return on investment on those projects, and the regime will most likely have trouble paying salaries of professionals in the tourism sector; in 2020, they received virtually no earnings from their jobs and thus might be facing unemployment, which appears to have risen last year.[23]

Unless the UN decides to extend the scope of its sanctions regime to include tourism on the list of forbidden activities, tourism will most likely rebound once the pandemic is controlled internationally and North Korea can reopen its borders to the outside world. This will probably be no earlier than in mid- or late-2022, given the country’s poor health care system and because it has not yet announced plans to begin inoculating its population.

Under an optimistic scenario, North Korea’s tourism industry could be fully operative again by 2023 and reach the level of tourism it saw in 2019. This assumes, of course, that either China keeps encouraging its nationals to visit the country or that North Korea manages to attract a much higher number of tourists from other states. Until then, North Korea can be expected to make up for its losses by trying to increase illicit activities like the export of sanctioned commodities, arms trafficking and cybertheft to continue financing itself, as a recent UN Panel of Experts Report suggested.(Hey, maybe they'll start selling good-quality, fully-automatic AK-47s here, smuggle them in. Could happen. At the right price, you know a lot of people would be down for one or more. - JS)


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Press X to doubt. I doubt even that many Chinese would tour in North Korea. I'm guessing there's some other shit going like human trafficking or drugs.
 
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Press X to doubt. I doubt even that many Chinese would tour in North Korea. I'm guessing there's some other shit going like human trafficking or drugs.

My guesses, much the same as yours, sex tours, buying cheap goods to sell in the markets, drugs. You may see a few going to Mt. Paektu or Mt. Kumgang. Maybe a very few touring old Korean War battlefields and/or the DMZ/P'anmunjom. Possibly a few trying the surfing. Also wonder how many Russian tourists are visiting NK; they share a short border. But would guess Russians would go to NK as tourists for most of the same reasons - sex tours, drugs, buying cheap goods to sell in Russian markets.
 
A notable article.


 
A notable article.


Yeah, that's essentially to be expected, at this point. Especially if you know that this is similar to Mao Zeodong's Great Leap Forward.

But I doubt if there will be an social upheaval.
 
Ex fat boy has become even thinner and looks like he's got some grey hair too
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Ex fat boy has become even thinner and looks like he's got some grey hair too
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Maybe he's losing his godly powers..
 
Maybe, I didn't think I would have ever said but he somehow looks worse after losing weight. He looks like he's 45-50, not 37-38.
Less grease means less shine. Maybe he'll look more shriveled when he loses a lot of weight and soon he'll be Kim Jong Raisin

Edit: also those people around him look fucking insane (yea its NK) its like they're having a mental breakdown and it being just the norm
 
There's rumors going around that he might be having complications with diabetes, cancer, or Covid. Either that, or it's his heart that's causing trouble again.

Also, there's rumors of Covid completely ravaging the country due to everyone already being starved, weakened, filthy drug addicts (meth addiction is fucking rampant over there) and the fact that there's basically no healthcare in NK, especially in the rural areas.
 
There's rumors going around that he might be having complications with diabetes, cancer, or Covid. Either that, or it's his heart that's causing trouble again.
Everyone I've known that's caught covid has lost a lot of weight, and has a hard time gaining it back (if at all). My own wife dropped enough weight after she caught it, that our family & her coworkers are concerned she's gone anorexic, or is on that redneck slim-fast.

And from my own experience, the corona seems to wreak havoc on appetite, even after recovering. I never had much of an appetite to begin with, but now I just never feel hungry. If I don't force myself to eat, I literally forget and get all dizzy.
 
There's rumors going around that he might be having complications with diabetes, cancer, or Covid. Either that, or it's his heart that's causing trouble again.

Also, there's rumors of Covid completely ravaging the country due to everyone already being starved, weakened, filthy drug addicts (meth addiction is fucking rampant over there) and the fact that there's basically no healthcare in NK, especially in the rural areas.
Everyone I've known that's caught covid has lost a lot of weight, and has a hard time gaining it back (if at all). My own wife dropped enough weight after she caught it, that our family & her coworkers are concerned she's gone anorexic, or is on that redneck slim-fast.

And from my own experience, the corona seems to wreak havoc on appetite, even after recovering. I never had much of an appetite to begin with, but now I just never feel hungry. If I don't force myself to eat, I literally forget and get all dizzy.
Those are all good reasons.
Furthermore, a Russian analyst said something about Kim having another heart scare this year, something like last year but minor, and actually decided to get his shit together and lay off the Big Macs a bit.
Plus there's the whole propaganda spin - North Korea is facing economic crisis and famine, if he appears thinner and with grey hair people say he's that worried and working 24/7 and this gives him the ''concerned leader'' aura.
 
I certainly hope it's from Kim deciding to put down the fork rather then directly from medical issues. As shitty as N.K. with fatboy is, No clear heir and a big fight over the whole thing would likely be worse. Here I sit, Hoping Norkville's dictator is healthy. Clownworld can be a very strange place.
 
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