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There's so much news about North Korea right now and what Un is doing, I got a suggestion for a NK megathread, so here it is. Post the world's greatest nation's antics here. I'm merging a few of the more recent threads to continue discussion.



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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/south-korea-planning-war-decapitation-132232777.html

South Korean President Moon Jae-in has pushed for a new plan for a rapid war with North Korea and an overhaul of the country's defense industry to overwhelm and crush the North's government, the South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo reported Tuesday.

Moon took office in May promising to attempt to engage diplomatically with North Korea and seek peace, but in the months since, the North has provoked the international community with missile tests at a blistering pace.

For some time, South Korea has been training a "decapitation force," reportedly with the help of the US Navy's SEAL Team 6, but now an increasingly bold North Korea may demand quicker action.

South Korea's new plan identifies more than 1,000 targets for precision missile fires and sites for marines to drop in and quickly kill North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the paper reported.

The plan represents a more independent version of South Korea's current plan, which relies on support from US aircraft carriers. As it stands, no major military commander recommends military action against North Korea, which has a staggering array of conventional — and potentially nuclear — weapons pointed at Seoul, where 26 million call home.

But South Korea's new plan to quickly and decisively dominate the North relies on reforming the defense-acquisition process and cutting out wasteful spending to wield the full might of its economic dominance against Pyongyang, according to the report. For that reason, don't expect the plan to take effect anytime soon.
 
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South Korea to resume propaganda broadcasts after North sends hundreds more rubbish balloons

Seoul says it will install loudspeakers on the border with North Korea after detecting 330 more balloons in its territory

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Photo released by South Korea Defense Ministry shows the trash from a balloon presumably sent by North Korea on 9 June. South Korea will resume propaganda broadcasts in response to the latest balloons.

South Korea says it will restart loudspeaker propaganda broadcasts into the North, after Pyongyang sent hundreds more rubbish-filled balloons across the border.

“We will install loudspeakers against North Korea today and carry out the broadcast,” the president’s office said in a statement on Sunday.

North Korea sent more than 300 rubbish-filled balloons across the border on Saturday, Seoul’s military said, with the president’s office saying this had forced it to take “corresponding measures”.

It said that “the responsibility for the escalation of tension between the two Koreas will be entirely up to the North”.

“Although the measures we are taking may be difficult for the North Korean regime to endure, they will deliver messages of light and hope to the North Korean military and citizens,” the president’s office added.

South Korea’s joint chiefs of staff said it detected the North launching about 330 balloons toward the South since Saturday night and about 80 were found in South Korean territory as of Sunday morning.

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This photo released by South Korea Defense Ministry, shows a balloon presumably sent by North Korea, on the Han River in Seoul on Sunday, 9 June.

In recent weeks, activists in the South have floated dozens of balloons bearing K-pop, dollar bills and anti-Kim Jong-un propaganda northwards, infuriating Pyongyang which has retaliated in kind.

Pyongyang sent nearly a thousand balloons carrying cigarette butts and toilet paper across the border late May and early June, before calling off its campaign.

It restarted Saturday in response to the new launches last week by the activists.

The Seoul city government, as well as officials in surrounding Gyeonggi province, sent out a text alert to residents on Saturday, warning about the new balloons.

“North Korea is making another low-class provocation with trash balloons against our civilian areas,” wrote Seoul mayor Oh Se-hoon in a Facebook post.

Seoul’s military said an “analysis shows there were no substances that were harmful to safety,” with the latest batch of balloons containing waste paper and plastic – but it warned the public to stay away and report any balloons to authorities.

The resumption of South Korea’s loudspeaker broadcasts has been widely anticipated since last week, when South Korea suspended a 2018 tension-easing agreement with North Korea.

The move allowed for the South to resume propaganda campaigns and possibly restart live-fire military exercises in border areas.

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South Korean soldiers dismantle loudspeakers in 2018 set up for propaganda broadcasts near the demilitarised zone separating the two Koreas in Paju, South Korea.

South Korea’s broadcasts are blasted from multiple speakers stacked in large racks and include world news and information about democratic and capitalist society with a mix of popular K-pop music. The sound is believed to travel more than 20km (12.4 miles) into North Korea.

Ties between the two Koreas are at one of their lowest points in years, with diplomacy long stalled and Kim ramping up his weapons testing and development, while the South draws closer to major security ally Washington.
 
Ooof, a quick look through this thread.

Do Americans not actually learn why North Korea is so much worse than other Communist/former Communist countries?

The harm Communism inflicted on East Germany was absolutely dire, and if NK is as bad as people are saying living conditions are literally Third World in 90% of it.
Shit like this. No. North Korea, who can build millions of artillery shells, ICBMs, nuclear warheads but can't "figure out how to farm lol" - you'd have to be a literal retard to believe that.

The Korean War is the "Forgotten War" for a good reason. The USA went so far beyond what can be considered "reasonable" that if the USA taught about it, you'd have to do it like the Germans teach about WWII. The USA, allegedly, used its stockpiles of herbicidal "Agent Pink" - a herbicide intended to starve the Japanese en masse and made Hiroshima seem like the morally acceptable option. This, alongside the weaponised "Rice Blast" pathogen. The USA successfully argued that both of these did not violate the Geneva Convention, because they didn't directly kill humans - but denies using them in Korea (they don't deny using the successor, Agent Orange, in four different countries)

This is likely because Agent Pink targets rice. It is designed to induce famines.

While the USA denies this, in spite of the number of servicemen who came back with cancer - they don't deny the deliberate destruction of agricultural dams. The North Koreans did try to rebuild them, but they failed in the 1990s, leading to the North Korean Famine. They couldn't build them up to spec, because the USA had littered the waterways with so many bombs that they'd have to spent trillions of dollars to clear them all up.

When you include the use of herbicidal agents, the USA's death toll puts the stars and stripes alongside the swastika as "worst regimes of history" - you just change the rules to exclude starvation as a weapon.
 
Shit like this. No. North Korea, who can build millions of artillery shells, ICBMs, nuclear warheads but can't "figure out how to farm lol" - you'd have to be a literal retard to believe that.
Every communist nation in history has mass starved their people due to wholesale slaughtering the farmers for their property. Guess what, if you have a country where nobody is left alive that knows how to farm you have to relearn it from scratch, in the meantime everyone starves.

To fact check on what agent pink is:
Its agent orange's primary ingredient without the surfacant and significantly less dioxin contamination. Aka it has a half life of a few days once applied and doesn't permanently kill land long term. There wouldn't even be a trace of this stuff left in North Korea's soil today.

Why is North Korea worse then other communist nations then? Its not because its communist, its Totalitarian. Its a style of government that died in the dark ages and for good reason, it only survives because China props it up as a buffer state.

A last note, you said these agents were invented to starve the Japanese during WWII, the problem with that is these chemicals weren't even field tested until 1961, if you want to count the predecessors to these herbicides then 1950s is the earliest they were used in war and that was by the British.
 
Its agent orange's primary ingredient without the surfacant and significantly less dioxin contamination.
Citation needed, every source has said the exact opposite. Don't just drop something which is extremely important, confidently. Why would the modified, improved Agent Orange have more contaminants? Surely, it's a better, more efficient process - why would the earlier prototype be superior in every way?

How would a mixture, dropped from an aircraft, become more hazardous over time with a surfactant? How exactly does that work? The chemical reacts with leaves. If it has a surfactant, it can react with leaves more rapidly. If it has no surfactant, it runs off into the soil and leeches out for a longer time period, sheltered from the elements for up to 30 years (according to some) - I have no idea where you got these numbers from.

This seems to be what you're describing, but then adding:
Aka it has a half life of a few days once applied and doesn't permanently kill land long term.
Which one is it? And source, definitely, for the "half life of a few days" for a fucking herbicidal weapon designed specifically for scorched Earth.

A last note, you said these agents were invented to starve the Japanese during WWII, the problem with that is these chemicals weren't even field tested until 1961, if you want to count the predecessors to these herbicides then 1950s is the earliest they were used in war and that was by the British.
Sure. That's entirely truthful, they didn't test any of them until 1961, then dumped out thousands of cubic meters by 1964.

Does that sound right to you? That huge gap between 1945 and 1961, where several countries allege that the USA used them, then ignored the fact that the US Govt admitted to releasing Agent Orange via cannons(!) across the border from South Korea.


Every communist nation in history has mass starved their people due to wholesale slaughtering the farmers for their property. Guess what, if you have a country where nobody is left alive that knows how to farm you have to relearn it from scratch, in the meantime everyone starves.
Did you just miss out the part about the dams, then? Not gonna bother?

You know how the USA had a "famine" in the 30s - the Dust Bowl? That's what "natural farming" actually looks like, water management is life-or-death. In North Korea's case, death.

It's fucking bizarre how you showed up, dropped big words, lied about what they mean and then scuttled off.
 
Which one is it? And source, definitely, for the "half life of a few days" for a fucking herbicidal weapon designed specifically for scorched Earth.
Apparently you know zero about the things you talk about.

Agent orange has a half life in the environment of 3-5 days. The dioxin contaminate 20-40 years. Dioxin is toxic but not scorched earth nothing will ever grow again like you claim.
Agent pink has the same active chemical as agent orange, but doesn't have the surfacant (this is essentially soap btw). Surfacants make pesticides more potent by breaking surface tension and increasing the speed its absorbed, its why orange and its variants were used far more because it required far less to get the same effect.

Sauce from the horses mouth for half life and chemical composition: https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/basics.asp

As a final note on this, its active ingredient is a commercial grade product still in use today, even though wordplay is used so people don't notice it: https://www.epa.gov/ingredients-used-pesticide-products/24-d
Did you just miss out the part about the dams, then? Not gonna bother?
This is MO for war, with the damaged dams long since repaired or replaced. Not above and beyond barbaric tactics like you claim.

The rest of your shit I'm not even going to bother with because I can't find sources and you didn't provide any.
 
Agent orange has a half life in the environment of 3-5 days. The dioxin contaminate 20-40 years. Dioxin is toxic but not scorched earth nothing will ever grow again like you claim.
Yes. This is correct. So how did the dioxin "contaminant", which is higher in Agent Pink, which didn't have the surfactant, produce less of an effect than the extremely dangerous Agent Orange, used in Vietnam?

Unsuitable for the agriculture in a developed nation is not the same as barren. Rice yields should be 1kg per square meter, to be viable - they were - they are no longer capable of that. The fields are insufficient.

Jesus fucking Christ, are you a Fed or something? Why would you overtly lie constantly to defend the indefensible policies of the USA during the Korean War?

The use of these weapons is, literally, "scorched Earth" - this is an actual "Scorched Earth policy" and one of the best examples in history of "scorched Earth".

This is MO for war, with the damaged dams long since repaired or replaced. Not above and beyond barbaric tactics like you claim.

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They did rebuild them. But the damage was so severe that whatever they rebuilt, collapsed again in the 1990s leading to millions of deaths. These weren't small - these were agricultural reservoirs.

This is from your own Air Force, bragging about the tactical nature of starving several million Koreans into submission while saying "Yeah, these might seem evil. But fuck it, let's do it anyway" - clearly stating that the goal here is to induce a famine to starve the civilian population.

There isn't any other country this barbaric. Nobody else has gone to another nation, on the other side of the world, and started to starve out the civilians while claiming to intervene in a civil war. The Koreans will, inevitably, boot you out of their country - that's why you're so terrified of the South Koreans ever getting nukes. Because if they did, they'd use them against the USA.

I don't remember ever hearing about the Korean war in school at all.
It's the USA's greatest shame - the war which the USA isn't "allowed" to teach, because it undermines your entire nation's "justification" for shit. You can't say that Communism or Nazism is evil, when you pull off the shit the USA did in Korea. The actual accusations, by China and North Korea - and the ample evidence they have provided - also explain why the Japanese human experimentation is taught so heavily in those countries.

Because the USA, allegedly used the Bubonic Plague and Haemorrhagic Smallpox against the Chinese when they invaded. Of course, during their retreat. The Chinese, USSR and North Korea collected evidence - including samples, undetonated ordnance and videos of the fucking Bubonic Plague which showed up in Chinese soldiers after they beat the Americans in combat. The USA vetoed any actions against themselves. This isn't from some "untrustworthy" states - Russia, China and North Korea are all nuclear armed nations. They are all very capable of understanding exactly what was done to them, and the USA's behaviour on the subject - including potato man - should raise a few eyebrows.

Doesn't it strike you as a little bit odd that North Korea can build enough weapons to supply Russia, can produce its own nuclear arsenal complete with intercontinental ballistic missiles, apparently has the most modern sort of chemical weapons and can conduct covert assassinations abroad - yet, can't quite get the farming right, as the weird potato man is implying?

The problem with the USA's wars isn't that they're "unbeatable" - it's that Americans have no moral standards. Most countries are willing to negotiate, even with high losses - the Americans will immediately resort to nuclear, biological or chemical agents as soon as they start facing any casualties. By the time the Germans instituted the Holocaust, they had millions of dead soldiers and civilians. The Iraqis started using chemical weapons when they had been at war, on their border, for years.

By the time the USA started throwing the Bubonic Plague around, they had less than 30,000 dead soldiers on the opposite side of the planet. In Vietnam, despite only having a few tens of thousands of casualties, the USA "successfully argued" that Agent Orange and Agent Blue were not chemical weapons because "starving people to death isn't technically a war crime yet" - then, pulled up the rug behind them later on, when they made it illegal.

The Korean War is the best argument against relations with the United States.
 
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Your school teachers were feds keeping you down going by how poor your reading, comprehension, and research skills are.
It's not reading comprehension. You dithered about some specific concept, and are now shocked that I actually do understand exactly what you said, and how much bullshit it was.

Firstly - it's a chemical weapon. Something which makes a weapon more dangerous which was packed into containers and thrown at the enemy isn't a contaminant. Surely, a contaminant would be accidentally loading a bomb with food instead of a lethal payload. In the same way that the little metal balls which come out of the end of a shotgun are not a "contaminant" - it's a propaganda point, shameless bullshit on par with North Korea's worship of their leader.

You can't induce a famine and claim it was a mistake. Agent Pink was more damaging than Agent Orange in the long term, and less effective in the short term. Agent Orange, by the way, has up to half a million fatalities in Vietnam from the horrifying diseases it caused in the local civilians.

Secondly - There's no error to be found. It's not "war things" - there isn't any precedent - the USA, to this day, is the only one to do this kind of thing. North Korea is proof that the USA is the most vile regime currently active - even Maoist China didn't pull that kind of shit off. The extreme denialism is present - North Korea, the ones who have a museum full of proof of American war crimes, are not to be trusted - while the USA is to be trusted, by default, and never questioned.

Thirdly - Why would I trust the source of the country which has, viably, been accused of releasing the fucking plague when they are defeated in combat? The only time a near-peer enemy defeated the USA, alone, in an ideological war of its own creation resulted in an immediate use of WMDs! No other country has done that. Argentina didn't release the plague when they lost at the Falklands! The circumstances around that exact incident make me believe North Korea more than the USA.

I can, looking at how the US Military conducts itself, 100% believe that as soon as you faced the prospect of surrendering to the Chinese, you dropped smallpox and ran.

As a final note on this, its active ingredient is a commercial grade product still in use today, even though wordplay is used so people don't notice it:
There we go - again, this is a bizarre scenario. Why do you have, apparently, advanced knowledge of agricultural chemistry, but a propagandised view of the Korean War and a willingness to lie brazenly about the nature of specific chemical agents used in Korea?

Most chemical weapons have a civilian analogue - they are used in industries across the world for legitimate reasons. It's not the chemical, itself, so much as its use. The addition of a detonator, and adding it to a plane to drop it onto civilians, is usually what makes it a weapon. A plastics manufacturer uses the same shit that Auschwitz did.

The fact that farmers can buy herbicide isn't really related to the mass murder of Korean civilians. This is a bizarre defence - does this work for other crimes? Does it work for the comfort women in the US Bases?
 
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Is a Bong really going to start shittalking the USA for going after dams?

But but, "muh agriculture". Yeah, and you blockaded the Germans in both world wars knowing full well they were dependent on food imports to avoid nation-wide starvation. The fact you starved the Germans to the point of surrender in WW1 is well-known. But hey, "muh existential conflict" I guess, right? The Brits also didn't and don't have any qualms with Operation Starvation in WW2 near as I can tell, you know, despite that whole island nation thing you guys share with Japan. Hell, you guys were getting Karl Doenitz all fitted for a noose until we reminded you of our own USW campaign that you had conveniently forgotten about in your desire for revenge. Surely you must have been well aware of it given the constant English presence in the Pacific to support their colonies of Australia and New Zealand, right?

And let's not talk about the Boers, the British burning and salting the earth to ensure nothing could grow that the commandoes could live off of (as well as the farmers afterwards in peacetime), and the concentration camps that were so good at killing off their inhabitants Hitler decided to copy them wholesale. And all for a few holes in the ground to dig in. The rapaciousness of the Eternal Anglo knows no bounds.
This isn't from some "untrustworthy" states - Russia, China and North Korea
You mean the very definition of untrustworthy states? Yeah, the guys who blamed the Katyn Massacre on the Nazis can surely be trusted to be honest about the USA, right? China? Hoo boy, you mean the guys with the Confucius Institutes and police stations in Canada to keep an eye on ex-pats? The guys who have spies all over Congress? But I'm sure you'll excuse all that as just them needing to make sure the USA isn't up to anything nasty, like you know, helping China cover up COVID's lab origins. Even if I take your claims at face value about us waging biological war that just makes our involvement in the Wuhan biolab even more bizarre, since why would the Chinese openly cooperate on gain-of-function research with a nation that has supposedly used biological weapons against them in the past?

As to any notions of the USA surrendering, the Chinese themselves will admit they got clobbered hard the minute the whole thing bogged down into a set-piece industrial war when winter hit instead of the asymmetric war of movement it started off as. We didn't need WMD's, only a massive disparity in artillery and industrial capacity. The head Chinese general in Korea was constantly bemoaning the lack of trucks to transport supplies and wounded.
claiming to intervene in a civil war
Hardly a civil war. North and South were and are independent countries, and the invasion by the North had been done with the direct blessing and support from both China and the USSR. The Nork battle plans were even personally approved by Stalin! Its not like those T-34's appeared out of thin air after all. I'll further note that said invasion only came after a year of massive guerilla war directly backed and supported by North Korea, including North Korean commando forces who had infiltrated the South.
 
But but, "muh agriculture". Yeah, and you blockaded the Germans in both world wars knowing full well they were dependent on food imports to avoid nation-wide starvation. The fact you starved the Germans to the point of surrender in WW1 is well-known.
You mean the Potato Blight situation?

Yes, the UK did blockade Germany. Germany was big, scary and could pack a punch. It's not like anyone would hide that fact - Germany was twice the size of the UK, and invented the flamethrower. We did not deliberately introduce the Blight - that was a Europe-wide problem. Germany was an existential threat, and had also bombed London in both world wars.

And let's not talk about the Boers, the British burning and salting the earth to ensure nothing could grow that the commandoes could live off of (as well as the farmers afterwards in peacetime), and the concentration camps that were so good at killing off their inhabitants Hitler decided to copy them wholesale.
Yes, the Boer War is the first time that happened. The Boer War was fought between British South Africans, and Dutch South Africans. It makes perfect sense for Britain to be involved, there. Britain went too far on it, in my opinion - but the Dutch did reintroduce slavery, and try to deport the British settlers. Hence, it's "controversial" but not universally condemned. Both sides were at intense fault, and the use of camps came after a long series of escalations.

You mean the very definition of untrustworthy states?
By you. Exclusively the USA and exclusively because "they keep accusing us of using smallpox as a weapon" - they had an entire vaccination campaign across the entire coast of China, terrified that you would launch attacks on their mainland.

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Like, this isn't a minor deal - China openly believes this. China teaches this as fact. It is a known reality, in most of Asia, that the USA is dangerous because it will use chemical and biological weapons in any conflict, for any reason, with no justification. They see you as animalistic barbarians - and for good reason, because you dropped the fucking plague because the Chinese beat you. Russia believes this, too.

There is no negotiation with a country like that. There's no way to ever be secure in an alliance with the USA - they will drop the plague, randomly, as soon as they start to face any actual battle. You're not a "center for freedom" - you're an insane group of spoiled radicals. You cannot stomach any loss, and most of the world is held hostage by the fact that the most utterly insane, spoiled brats and crybabies have access to nuclear weapons. Iran is genuinely more trustworthy than the USA - Iran only uses chemical or biological weapons during existential wars on its own border. Iran doesn't drop smallpox on civilians as a response to losing a fucking battle.

oo boy, you mean the guys with the Confucius Institutes and police stations in Canada to keep an eye on ex-pats?
Australia wants to talk about their Prime Minister.
Even if I take your claims at face value about us waging biological war that just makes our involvement in the Wuhan biolab even more bizarre, since why would the Chinese openly cooperate on gain-of-function research with a nation that has supposedly used biological weapons against them in the past?
They actually fit right in - the Chinese weren't cooperating. It implies that the USA was threatening them into cooperation, and then released COVID when they didn't cooperate enough.

It does fit right in, and the USA arrested journalists for speaking about it. Multiple agencies investigated it, and found that North Korea - which had samples, videos, bodies, the whole deal - was telling the truth. The USA threw a fit, called the international investigation "Communists" and then founded its own organisation (conveniently, the same organisation now focuses on trannies)

In response to a Canadian investigation which found the USA had used chemical and biological weapons, the USA found a hand-written copy from the "Russian Archives" - which included comments from Laventriy Beria - which exonerated the USA wholly, and made out that the North Koreans executed thousands of random civilians with plague they acquired from the Chinese, to frame the USA.

Unbeknownst to the USA, Laventriy Beria was dead at that point, there was no way to verify any of these documents, but still. It must be true - it's an official response from the Clinton administration.

In the USA vs China debate, China is right. Morally, the fact that the USA demanded the Chinese withdraw - and saw the Chinese as "the aggressor" when you dumped the fucking plague on them - shows the true nature of the average American.

Hardly a civil war. North and South were and are independent countries, and the invasion by the North had been done with the direct blessing and support from both China and the USSR. The Nork battle plans were even personally approved by Stalin! Its not like those T-34's appeared out of thin air after all. I'll further note that said invasion only came after a year of massive guerilla war directly backed and supported by North Korea, including North Korean commando forces who had infiltrated the South.
Yes. The USSR had fought in Korea, and the USA had not. Why would they want to put an American dictator in control, when they already had their own dictator lined up? Kim Il-Sung had fought against the Japanese - Syngman Rhee had been installed by the USA in 1948, who immediately slaughtered over ten thousand South Koreans who protested.

Like, no shit, both the USSR and China share a border with Korea. They have a specific vested interest in the region. It's more bizarre that the USA wanted to "contain" the USSR by propping up brutal regimes on its border, and allegedly, launching artillery strikes.

Seriously, Russia and China both say that it was actually the South who hit first. I don't know who to believe - the Chinese, or the guys who dropped the plague on the Chinese.

There is a reason the USA doesn't teach the Korean war. It was a brutal land-grab, worse than the Soviets - the entire world saw you as the villain. They were right, you did actually fucking invade a country, install a dictator as a puppet, then give everyone diseases and induce a famine when you failed. Do you know who the head of security was for South Korea? A former Japanese war criminal who the USA had released, specifically, because he helped the Japanese kill Communists.

There is no justifying the USA's role in Asia. China is right - you do not belong in Europe or Asia, and are genuinely the villains. I know it's hard for you to believe, but releasing the plague and installing literal war criminals to slaughter civilian dissenters is generally a "bad vibe" - the Russians can say they suffered, too, but the Americans are the worst of them all. None of these were existential threats - you are nothing but a bunch of greedy opportunists.

Here's a fun fact - did you know that the South Korean government killed several thousand students who protested in 1980? The USA continued to back up the Korean dictatorships until 1988 - the guy who killed over three thousand students was chilling with Ronald Reagan!

Then, after the dictatorships collapsed, the USA installed its "New Government" - an overtly feminist, anti-racist "Corporate Communism" which sought to blend the soulless capitalism with all the weird shit about black cock that America is so fond of.

This isn't some theory - you can see a clear progression of American history via its role in its longest conflict, the Korean War. You went from wannabe imperialists, to failed imperialists, to war criminals, to dictatorship and then to gay corporate-communism. There are Koreans alive who have been victim to all of this, in rapid succession.
 
Is it possible for you to make a post that isn't a long-winded gish gallop of excuses, justification, and gibberish?

Fucking hell, you are quite possibly everything wrong with the modern Englishman. At least @Stoneheart will freely boast that yes, Germany did those things and the people they did them to had it coming, but god damn, you're making me wish your whole floating garbage patch pretending to be an island was speaking German and being force-fed sauerkraut.

My TL;DR as an American as to how and why we did these things: "But we learned it from you!" The history of the British Empire is quite clear and well-known, and no amount of lies and dissembling from you can change it.
 
Is it possible for you to make a post that isn't a long-winded gish gallop of excuses, justification, and gibberish?
No. It's what you deserve.

Do you ever make an honest post or not? You lie constantly - just, outright. The UK has never gone as far as the USA did, ever, for any reason. The only countries which match the USA are Germany and the USSR.

Except neither did it for "no reason"
My TL;DR as an American as to how and why we did these things: "But we learned it from you!" The history of the British Empire is quite clear and well-known, and no amount of lies and dissembling from you can change it.
How? When, exactly, did Britain use chemical weapons to slaughter half a million civilians? When did the UK use biological weapons against civilians? When did the UK use nuclear weapons against civilians?

The USA did all three, back-to-back, in Asia. The USA is genuinely worse than Imperial Japan - all of their crimes, the USA did to a greater extent in Korea! All of it! You even had the comfort women!

You did that in Vietnam, too, and your boomers brag about it! Why would you insult us by comparing us to yourselves?
 
@Doctor Love imagine getting this upset at killing communists, Chink and Korean communists, no less, who wantonly starved and massacred their own people by the millions, yet you cry over a bit of plague? They aren't human, who cares? No wonder your country's political parties at this point are just different shades of socialist faggot
 
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@Doctor Love imagine getting this upset at killing communists, Chink and Korean communists, no less. They aren't human, who cares? No wonder your country's political parties at this point are just different shades of socialist faggot
The Bong is of course naturally mad that the USA succeeded where the Empire failed.

I literally don't even know what his fucking point is except to seethe about various imagined war crimes we committed while ignoring the Empire's own excesses.
 
The Bong is of course naturally mad that the USA succeeded where the Empire failed.

I literally don't even know what his fucking point is except to seethe about various imagined war crimes we committed while ignoring the Empire's own excesses.
Yeah, I'm not saying he's lying but some citations would be nice. Either way, I genuinely don't give two shits about "war crimes" against commie scum. Whining about the SK government killing protestors, just after the country was destabilized by a coup d'état and the assassination of the President, when such numbers is like a casual Tuesday for the CCP and DPRK in their literal concentration camps lmao only 165 were killed not 3000 like the limey fag lied about by the way
 
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