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There's so much news about North Korea right now and what Un is doing, I got a suggestion for a NK megathread, so here it is. Post the world's greatest nation's antics here. I'm merging a few of the more recent threads to continue discussion.



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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/south-korea-planning-war-decapitation-132232777.html

South Korean President Moon Jae-in has pushed for a new plan for a rapid war with North Korea and an overhaul of the country's defense industry to overwhelm and crush the North's government, the South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo reported Tuesday.

Moon took office in May promising to attempt to engage diplomatically with North Korea and seek peace, but in the months since, the North has provoked the international community with missile tests at a blistering pace.

For some time, South Korea has been training a "decapitation force," reportedly with the help of the US Navy's SEAL Team 6, but now an increasingly bold North Korea may demand quicker action.

South Korea's new plan identifies more than 1,000 targets for precision missile fires and sites for marines to drop in and quickly kill North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the paper reported.

The plan represents a more independent version of South Korea's current plan, which relies on support from US aircraft carriers. As it stands, no major military commander recommends military action against North Korea, which has a staggering array of conventional — and potentially nuclear — weapons pointed at Seoul, where 26 million call home.

But South Korea's new plan to quickly and decisively dominate the North relies on reforming the defense-acquisition process and cutting out wasteful spending to wield the full might of its economic dominance against Pyongyang, according to the report. For that reason, don't expect the plan to take effect anytime soon.
 
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Least Concern said:
Why would former Norks escape a unified Korea? Even if they find life is tough under modern capitalism, Japan or China or Russia isn't going to be any easier, plus there will be a language barrier.

I don't know. Germany made it work; I know there were and still are problems, but on the whole the people in the former East are better off at the least in human rights terms, are they not?

I know there are politicians and such in the South who don't want to see the country take on the social and fiscal burdens that reunification would bring, but I find that rather callous of them.
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Many Koreans live in the areas of China contiguous to North Korea. A number of Koreans live in the area of Russia that borders on North Korea. The north would be a mess for some time, people would leave to find work.

East Germany was probably the most prosperous of the Soviet satellite states, and the two Germanies never fought each other. There were still challenges, but after over thirty years would say the reunification has succeeded.

North Korea is a basket case. It will take many years and a great deal of money/effort to bring the north up to southern standards. Going to have to disarm the North Korean military/security services, deal with the nukes. Callous or not, not everyone in South Korea wants to assume such a burden. Took many years after the end of the Korean War for South Korea to become a First World nation.
 
Least Concern said:
I know there are politicians and such in the South who don't want to see the country take on the social and fiscal burdens that reunification would bring, but I find that rather callous of them.
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The issue of Korean reunification isn’t up to the Koreans. That needs to be decided by the powers backing them.

The US wouldn’t mind reunification under southern rule. That would mean one less hostile nuclear power. But China’s situation in this game is a little different. On one hand, China likes money. Lord knows North Korea’s GDP doesn’t even begin to compare to the South’s. So Kim taking over the peninsula would economically hurt China. But on the other hand, having North Korea around creates a nice buffer zone between them and the nearest American military base. It certainly helps that this particular buffer zone is led by a despot who at least knows he owes his existence to the fact that some bigger power finds him useful.

The only way I see reunification happening is if the Kim Dynasty is led by someone who absolutely can’t hold North Korea together (and keep in mind that means keeping the elites in Pyongyang fed). Then China would most likely demand that the US pull its military out of Korea. Some intense negotiations would happen which would involve the US keeping its bases as long as they don’t go north of Busan, which is in the very south of Korea.

But of course that’s assuming China doesn’t overthrow North Korea and install a puppet government loyal to Beijing. People like to talk about Kim going off the rails and starting WW3. What they don’t talk about is how it would be in China’s best interest not to let that happen whatever it takes.
 
JosephStalin said:
Ya, we learned a certain amount of Hanja while in language school. Like the people you referenced, can only read the most common Chinese characters, but that is still far more than most Americans can do.

Hangul itself was very easy to learn. Learned it in a couple of hours one afternoon early in language school. Learning Hangul was one of the few easy parts of the Korean course.
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Korean is surprisingly easy to pickup on. I study it sparingly, but I hear it in my household from my wife's conversations with her friends and family, and the K-dramas we watch, that I've learned a bunch of words, sentences/phrases.

When I'm watching a Korean show w/ English subtitles, I notice how some of the dialogue written is pretty different from what's actually being said.
 
Hollywood Hitler said:
Korean is surprisingly easy to pickup on. I study it sparingly, but I hear it in my household from my wife's conversations with her friends and family, and the K-dramas we watch, that I've learned a bunch of words, sentences/phrases.

When I'm watching a Korean show w/ English subtitles, I notice how some of the dialogue written is pretty different from what's actually being said.
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Studied it six hours a day, five days a week, for 47 weeks in the 1970's. After further training, spent over two years in Korea as a linguist. Now the course is 63 weeks long. Hardest school I ever attended. Every school after that, including grad school, was relatively easy by comparison.

On a limited basis, am sure Korean is easy to pick up. As can be seen, we went much deeper, learned how to read/write/speak. Learned grammar, numbering systems, the various forms. At the Defense Language Institute, where I learned Korean, and years later served as an associate dean, Korean is one of the five hardest languages (Category 4), along with Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, and Pashto. Have heard rumors of Korean becoming the first Category 5 language, it's that difficult.
 
thismanlies said:
The issue of Korean reunification isn’t up to the Koreans. That needs to be decided by the powers backing them.

The US wouldn’t mind reunification under southern rule. That would mean one less hostile nuclear power. But China’s situation in this game is a little different. On one hand, China likes money. Lord knows North Korea’s GDP doesn’t even begin to compare to the South’s. So Kim taking over the peninsula would economically hurt China. But on the other hand, having North Korea around creates a nice buffer zone between them and the nearest American military base. It certainly helps that this particular buffer zone is led by a despot who at least knows he owes his existence to the fact that some bigger power finds him useful.

The only way I see reunification happening is if the Kim Dynasty is led by someone who absolutely can’t hold North Korea together (and keep in mind that means keeping the elites in Pyongyang fed). Then China would most likely demand that the US pull its military out of Korea. Some intense negotiations would happen which would involve the US keeping its bases as long as they don’t go north of Busan, which is in the very south of Korea.

But of course that’s assuming China doesn’t overthrow North Korea and install a puppet government loyal to Beijing. People like to talk about Kim going off the rails and starting WW3. What they don’t talk about is how it would be in China’s best interest not to let that happen whatever it takes.
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I hear you, but we would tell the Chinese to fuck off if they made any demand to remove our bases from the ROK. Those bases are needed for the USA to remain a player in the Korean situation.
 
JosephStalin said:
The two languages are getting different, as well. Southerners use a lot of English words or Korean variations thereof. Northerners will use a number of Russian words. North uses native alphabet, Hangul, exclusively. In the South, the higher the reading level the more Chinese characters are used, likely not as much as when I was there many years ago.
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It's not just the writing. The two languages have separated faster than anyone could have imagined. North Korean's still speak exclusively Korean. But South Korea has been so influenced by other cultures and languages, especially Englist that South Korean spoken Korean is utterly incomprehensible to Northerners. The North Korean's are like Asia's answer to the Welsh.

And that's also another element of the problem regarding "reunification". The South Korean's are mostly over it. They want nothing to do with it. They don't want to take ownership of their idiot retard cousins to the North. They have nothing in common any longer. At this point most South Korean's seem to be of the mind to just let the fuckers starve. And do you blame them? Every overture over the years always gets met with more demands and threats of violence. North Korea is Chris Chan the Nation. There really is no path to reunification any longer. I'm not sure the societies could be integrated the way Germany was.
 
Hollywood Hitler said:
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When I'm watching a Korean show w/ English subtitles, I notice how some of the dialogue written is pretty different from what's actually being said.
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That is part of translating, especially for an audience without the background knowledge of the source material. Common greetings such as '안녕하세?'' and '밥 먹었어?' translate directly as 'Are you at peace?" and "Have you eaten?" but are spoken as polite greetings and not an actual question. Also the use of titles instead of names can be confusing to a foreign audience, especially new viewers who see 'older brother' and 'older sister' and think the people might actually be related, sometimes its easier and more understandable to just use character's names instead of the actual words used in the program.
 
CWCissey said:
I'm finding myself actively wishing for Fatboy to die.

Not out of sympathy for the North Korean people, or even simping for the girly dictator.

Just because the news will shut the fuck up about the Kung Flu for a bit
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>Sorry for the late reply, still reading

Actually… it’s her they’re fattening up (along with the multiple pregnancies, thanks to dear leader).

Rocketman is literally turning his wife into his dead grandma



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Deadly Nightshade said:
>Sorry for the late reply, still reading

Actually… it’s her they’re fattening up (along with the multiple pregnancies, thanks to dear leader).

Rocketman is literally turning his wife into his dead grandma



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It never ends, does it? :|
 
Trilby said:
It never ends, does it? :|
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Guess not :( but they need a new “mother of Joseon” and a modern one at that. If they’re gonna make Kim larp as his granddad, might as well get Rocketwoman larp as Kim Jong-suk.

You know, after watching raw footage of them from best and worst Korea - without subtitles, I came to the conclusion that he really does love her and she loves him back; judging from their interactions and body language: if you look closely, KCNA seems to edit any pda they show each other or sometimes when he acknowledges her presence except for when she gives him ‘daddy pls fuck me’ eyes ‘cause you know, he’s god and gods are not bound by earthly emotions besides the love for their people (right). Also, according to the few reports out there written about their relationship; madame Kim is the only person allowed to criticize, embarrass him, and doesn’t have to wear the red badge of she doesn’t want to without any retaliation from dear husband while his scary-looking sister isn’t allowed to do neither and has to wear it like everyone else. They also talked about how close they were and their mutual affection.

I believe one of his redeeming qualities is that he loves her and the family they created. After all, every king needs his queen.
 
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Deadly Nightshade said:
>Sorry for the late reply, still reading

Actually… it’s her they’re fattening up (along with the multiple pregnancies, thanks to dear leader).

Rocketman is literally turning his wife into his dead grandma



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That's a culture thing there because of the intense poverty in North Korea. That's also a thing in some Latin American countries and in many parts of Africa.

Contrary to these views, being overweight is something admirable in North Korea. If you are fat, people would think you are part of an upper-class family.
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Lester Jones said:
That's a culture thing there because of the intense poverty in North Korea. That's also a thing in some Latin American countries and in many parts of Africa.

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Contrary to these views, being overweight is something admirable in North Korea. If you are fat, people would think you are part of an upper-class family.
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That was alluded to in this video


I guess that means they perceive Scott Norton as upper-class.
 
In recent news, Big Kim decided to take one of his daughters to his nuke testing grounds.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...s-daughter-ballistic-missile-test-2022-11-18/
Two months ago at the WPK anniversary celebrations, this other kid was believed to be his spawn given she was wearing different accessories to differentiate her from the rest of the plebs’ kids, Kim’s wife was seen being pretty close with her and her ‘dad and aunt’ were smiling and singing along. She also didn’t show up at the next performance the day after along with her supposed parents.
 

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He's taking this "Cool dad who buys the really good fireworks" thing a bit too far.
I wonder who's next up after Kim eventually kicks it? A daughter seems unlikely, But there's a conspicuous absence of sons. Transition of power to the next leader could be pretty rough.
 
That_Guy said:
He's taking this "Cool dad who buys the really good fireworks" thing a bit too far.
I wonder who's next up after Kim eventually kicks it? A daughter seems unlikely, But there's a conspicuous absence of sons. Transition of power to the next leader could be pretty rough.
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I bet she'll grow up to be a cold, psycho bitch. She's already a female so that's like half the battle won already. My money is on her assassinating her dad when she feels he's not hard-core enough and seizing power.
 
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