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Pissmaster said:
Because VB Wario Land is the only game on that entire platform anyone would want to play for more than a few minutes
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  • Mario Tennis
  • Teleroboxer
  • Mario Clash
All 3 Nintendo IP's (Teleroboxer = Nintendo R&D1). Hell, even throw in V-Tetris and/or 3D Tetris

Regardless, it's still a part of Nintendo history that people should be able to experience and judge for themselves whether or not it's shit.
 
SSj_Ness said:
The grey Switch Lite looks okay, not too childish
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I will avoid the Switch lite and all of its equivalents. I once saw a grown ass bald obese man hunching on his train seat, to the point where he was a few inches away from the floor, playing his cyan Switch lite with yellow buttons. The last two console generations have been so embarrassing.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
  • Mario Tennis
  • Teleroboxer
  • Mario Clash
All 3 Nintendo IP's (Teleroboxer = Nintendo R&D1). Hell, even throw in V-Tetris and/or 3D Tetris

Regardless, it's still a part of Nintendo history that people should be able to experience and judge for themselves whether or not it's shit.
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Isn't Teleroboxer infamously controller-smashingly hard?

They own Nester's Funky Bowling too, fwiw.
 
The Pulverizer said:
I will avoid the Switch lite and all of its equivalents. I once saw a grown ass bald obese man hunching on his train seat, to the point where he was a few inches away from the floor, playing his cyan Switch lite with yellow buttons. The last two console generations have been so embarrassing.
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I can't understand why anybody would choose those colors for public use, even if they're nice. I'm not one who's fretting about what strangers think too much, but that's drawing unnecessary attention and looks like you're playing with a little kid's toy.

Celebrate Nite said:
  • Mario Tennis
  • Teleroboxer
  • Mario Clash
All 3 Nintendo IP's (Teleroboxer = Nintendo R&D1). Hell, even throw in V-Tetris and/or 3D Tetris

Regardless, it's still a part of Nintendo history that people should be able to experience and judge for themselves whether or not it's shit.
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Even those Mario games probably won't hold attention long. 3D Tetris might.
 
SSj_Ness said:
I'm not one who's fretting about what strangers think too much, but that's drawing unnecessary attention and looks like you're playing with a little kid's toy.
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I fucking hate the soy pastel Switch colors. The glossy metalic colors the 3DS had were so much better.

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The Pulverizer said:
I fucking hate the soy pastel Switch colors. The glossy metalic colors the 3DS had were so much better.

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That blue looks fine, but I've always gravitated towards black/grey when there's an option.

The Pulverizer said:
I really hope their next console looks less childish.

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I think the biggest problem with the Switch Lite is the decision to make the buttons a different color than the system, it pops too much. Also, no black is annoying, even the grey could stand to be darker.

Man, that default color scheme on the standard Switch is pretty loud...
 
The Pulverizer said:
I think the disastrous launch of the Wii U has to be a reason. By now Nintendo has realized that since they have no competition, they don't have to rush their hardware.
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Baraka Obama said:
This is exactly why I don't think it's coming this year. System's still selling really well, software sales are still obscene. Why disturb that?
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This idea is one that needs to die. Companies release successors to still selling product lines all the time. This is fundamentally how the Game Industry itself has worked for decades. The Switch is a household name at this point, same as Playstation and iPhone. People will buy a new one just because its a Switch 2. The brand has established itself. The hard part is over. Releasing a successor is the easy part, now that people know what the Switch is and how it works. Nobody's going to be guessing or wondering about what it is. I have a little cousin (just entered high school this year) who owns a Switch. Its broken, but he's yet to buy a new one specifically because he's heard rumors of a successor coming out. Normies will sit up and take notice once they see a new thing, because its the new thing. Now's the perfect time to launch because Sony and Microsoft are at least a few years out from releasing successors to their own systems, despite their lack of sales. Nintendo will basically have a captive audience looking for something new.

The Pulverizer said:
Yeah bro because Switch leaks are so reliable.
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The last leaks released real information, were reported by reliable sources, and carried in major news outlets. These weren't some random hobos on Twitter. Once more, there is all kinds of confirmed information that we know that indicates that the Switch 2 is coming out soon, such as all the leaks that came out of the Microsoft Activision buyout trial, and confirmed reports that Nintendo is already showing off target hardware to third parties.

SSj_Ness said:
Steam Deck is good but isn't going to influence Nintendo's decisions beyond perhaps (hopefully) considering it to be the minimum specs for Switch 2 to target. Nintendo will probably include a new gimmick, but it'll be something unobtrusive and secondary.
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I can't see Nintendo adding a new gimmick. There's no point. The Switch design has shown itself to be solid enough on its own, and Nintendo has already been stung by bad unnecessary gimmicks before. If its not broke, why try to fix it? Which, of course this being Nintendo, trying to fix what isn't broken is exactly what they will try to do because doing the least logical thing in any given situation seems to be their MO.

Baraka Obama said:
If games on Switch work with its successor, what reason is there for develop games targeting the new platform if they work just fine on Switch? You can already see this effect on PS4/PS5 where a LOT of Japanese games just release on PS4 and say who needs a PS5 version? And then there's even fewer reasons to get a "Super Switch U2 360" if there's still a ton of Switch games coming out.
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Your assuming a lot, like that any game made for a Switch 2 would work for a Switch 1, which is just not necessarily the case. Many Japanese games are releasing on the PS4 because:

1) The PS5 sold like shit in Japan, so the PS4 still has the larger install base.
2) Sony themselves have muddied the issue by continuing to support the PS4, mostly because the install base for the PS5 is next to nonexistent, largely due to the fact that Sony struggled to even stock things for years due to supply chain issues caused by COVID, combined with over aggressive scalpers. Add to the fact that Sony's own first party output has slowed down tremendously, meaning that they simply can't put out big games in a consistent manner due to cost and development time, coupled with the falling quality of their own game releases, and Sony pushing PC publishing, and you've got a recipe for disaster. Fact is, the PS5 has no games, and Sony not simply dropping the PS4, once again due to supply issues, is part of the reason for that.
3) Finally, you are right that there isn't a massive difference graphically between generations. This is, to paraphrase Raz0rFist "This consoles are not designed to be powerful, but to be CHEAP", as in cheap to produce. Sony aren't pushing a massive leap in technology between the two. There is a difference, but Sony have undermined the difference by continuing to support the PS4, pushing the idea that its "good enough".

That last part I want to harp on because it goes back to the tech argument you alluded to. The situation between the Switch and the Switch 2 would be completely different that the situation between the PS4 and PS5. The Switch is seven years old. Its an aging piece of hardware. Even when it released, it wasn't the most powerful piece of tech around and was well behind the competition. Remember, cheap, not powerful. This has massively effected what Nintendo are able to do with the Switch, but much more so what third parties are able to do. Many key third party games have simply skipped the Switch entirely (Red Dead Redemption 2, Elden Ring, Ace Combat, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Yakuza, Armored Core, Baldur's Gate, etc.) simply because there was no way it could handle them. The few that do make it to the system (like The Witcher 3, or the ports of the newer Resident Evil games) don't look good or run particularly well, due to the console's limitations, especially in handheld mode. Some games (ahem, Resident Evil) had to be cloud based. When it comes to indie games, the Switch is second to none. When it comes to major third party releases, the Switch either gets delayed, downgraded ports, if it gets ports at all, or ports of games that are, sometimes, years or even decades old. However, there has been massive jumps in mobile technology since the Switch launched (see the Steam Deck) and Nintendo are primed and ready to take advantage of that. It would at least make the console capable of handling major third party games, and put it on more (not directly) equal footing with its competitors. There won't be a small jump between the Switch and its successor, there will be a massive one (comparatively). You see mobile technology, unlike PC technology, still has a long way to go, and Nintendo can take advantage of that to easily iterate on their consoles. As of now, if you want a full gaming experience, the Switch can't be your only gaming device (a common refrain is that if you get a Switch and a gaming PC, you can have access to entire breadth of gaming). With the Switch 2, that may actually be possible.
 
Not to mention that the Switch 2 has the killer app of being able to play popular PS4 and Xbox One titles thanks to its higher performance, but still in its portable form factor. The Steam Deck will be it's closest competitor but Nintendo is an established brand
 
One of the Switch's biggest advantage has been its low price. All this talk about better hardware reminds me of the Steam Deck's initial pricetag.
 
SSj_Ness said:
I can't understand why anybody would choose those colors for public use, even if they're nice. I'm not one who's fretting about what strangers think too much, but that's drawing unnecessary attention and looks like you're playing with a little kid's toy.
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I really rather like the way the yellow switch lite works and have enough big dick energy to pull off using it in public.

The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Many key third party games have simply skipped the Switch entirely (Red Dead Redemption 2, Elden Ring, Ace Combat, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Yakuza, Armored Core, Baldur's Gate, etc.) simply because there was no way it could handle them
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See this is where you're very wrong. Not releasing these games on Switch was a business decision, not a technical one. Know how I know that? Ace Combat works just fine on a PS2, so does Armored Core and Tekken and Soul Calibur. Tekken 6 famously came out on both PSP and PS3.

There's no reason if they wanted to they couldn't have aimed for Switch specs in the first place to make a cross platform release, and you see many developers going that route for example with the recent Star Ocean 2 remake -- it's designed for Switch first and ported from there not the other way around.

You really don't have a leg to stand on if you want to argue the hardware on Switch just is so creeky it's impossible to make competent games on it. It has 4GB of RAM and decently modern GPU, there's enough there to go nuts with. You won't see a ton of PS4/XB1 era ports on a Switch successor because there was already enough present for those ports on Switch Uno if there was a business justification to go for it.
 
Baraka Obama said:
I really rather like the way the yellow switch lite works and have enough big dick energy to pull off using it in public.


See this is where you're very wrong. Not releasing these games on Switch was a business decision, not a technical one. Know how I know that? Ace Combat works just fine on a PS2, so does Armored Core and Tekken and Soul Calibur. Tekken 6 famously came out on both PSP and PS3.

There's no reason if they wanted to they couldn't have aimed for Switch specs in the first place to make a cross platform release, and you see many developers going that route for example with the recent Star Ocean 2 remake -- it's designed for Switch first and ported from there not the other way around.

You really don't have a leg to stand on if you want to argue the hardware on Switch just is so creeky it's impossible to make competent games on it. It has 4GB of RAM and decently modern GPU, there's enough there to go nuts with. You won't see a ton of PS4/XB1 era ports on a Switch successor because there was already enough present for those ports on Switch Uno if there was a business justification to go for it.
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A game made for Switch first would, by definition, look really handicapped on the other systems+PC. I don't blame devs at all for making one or the other choices, especially for western focused releases.
 
Baraka Obama said:
See this is where you're very wrong. Not releasing these games on Switch was a business decision, not a technical one. Know how I know that? Ace Combat works just fine on a PS2, so does Armored Core and Tekken and Soul Calibur.
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By that logic, God of War Ragnarok should run on a Switch since the original was on PS2.
 
Calandrino said:
So just buy one of the more adult-looking joycons? It's not like you don't have options:
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Name one.
Calandrino said:
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10/10, would play at court date
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You failed. My issue is with putting buttons on a flat plastic cover. It looks very unappealing and I'd argue that playability suffers from it. Did Nintendo forget that our hands don't consist of our fingers?
 
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